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New Smart TV - Do i need an aerial for Saorview

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Do you really think it could be the range of the indoor Aerial.

    You think I would need an outdoor Aerial ?

    Could be its just shít (like its defo getting power ? Is the LED on ?

    The thing with indoor aerials there are some fairly bad ones out there. Just seems unusual that you are getting nothing on that signal meter on the TV, at all.

    That window that its looking out, dont suppose there a massive building within 10 feet of it!

    Go back to Ch 26 and press scan on it, just in case the meter is not working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,672 ✭✭✭exaisle


    padyjoe wrote: »
    I guess you are in or around Marble City. Your aerial has a range up to 15 miles. The transmitter on Mt. Leinster is 23 miles away, so what do you expect?

    I'd love to hear where you came up with such precise figures?

    Surely the ability of any antenna to receive a usable signal is dependent on the strength of signal output at the transmitter, and the gain of the actual antenna?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    exaisle wrote: »
    I'd love to hear where you came up with such precise figures?

    Surely the ability of any antenna to receive a usable signal is dependent on the strength of signal output at the transmitter, and the gain of the actual antenna?

    I am not far off 60km off Mt Leinster and pick up both muxes with an indoor funke aerial that powers off the phantom voltage on the box.

    This is hardly surprising given their ERP is 160kw.

    23 miles away is nothing. Thats why there is something else at play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭padyjoe


    exaisle wrote: »
    I'd love to hear where you came up with such precise figures?

    Browsing boards.ie and putting the pieces together. ;-) I've seen the box of the aerial, it mentions 15 miles. I'm far from being a broadcast expert, I must admit.
    I reckon the poster's problem is the concrete walls around the apartment. Despite saying that, I still think with the right amount of trying, it's possible to get a signal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,672 ✭✭✭exaisle


    padyjoe wrote: »
    Browsing boards.ie and putting the pieces together. ;-) I've seen the box of the aerial, it mentions 15 miles. I'm far from being a broadcast expert, I must admit.
    I reckon the poster's problem is the concrete walls around the apartment. Despite saying that, I still think with the right amount of trying, it's possible to get a signal.

    The box probably also mentions "special digital antenna" or some such.. :-)

    In line of sight, you'd pick up Mount Leinster with little more than a bit of wet string at 23km. I'm about 10km from Kippure and use a bit of hanger wire.

    I agree though...OP should receive a decent signal with any kind of basic antenna at that distance...bit of experimentation is required, I'd say..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    exaisle wrote: »
    The box probably also mentions "special digital antenna" or some such.. :-)

    In line of sight, you'd pick up Mount Leinster with little more than a bit of wet string at 23km. I'm about 10km from Kippure and use a bit of hanger wire.

    I agree though...OP should receive a decent signal with any kind of basic antenna at that distance...bit of experimentation is required, I'd say..

    I can get a radio signal on my battery radio no problem. Does that mean I should have a good enough signal for the TV


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    I can get a radio signal on my battery radio no problem. Does that mean I should have a good enough signal for the TV

    FM radio is in a lower frequency band, better for indoor reception.

    Is that window in your photo facing east, & above ground floor level? Is that actually a nearby wall outside, or just the way the curtain makes it look?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    Thurston? wrote: »
    FM radio is in a lower frequency band, better for indoor reception.

    Is that window in your photo facing east, & above ground floor level? Is that actually a nearby wall outside, or just the way the curtain makes it look?

    Thanks for the reply,

    That window is facing North West. It is above ground level. It is a wall outside.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    ... That window is facing North West. It is above ground level. It is a wall outside.

    Right, from what I've gathered about your location from this thread, the window is actually facing away from Mt. Leinster, so any radio waves getting to it directly would be passing through a good part of your own building, let alone any others.

    Doesn't exactly look like a recipe for success.

    Edit: Meant to mention that the alternative frequencies suggested above (52 & 56) are used at Kilduff, which is to your NW, but you didn't have any success there either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Antenna


    Do you really think it could be the range of the indoor Aerial.

    You think I would need an outdoor Aerial ?

    That indoor aerial, if you got it online?, Does it by any chance have a F-connector (screw-on) instead of the usual push-on aerial plug in this part of the world (for terrestrial), and you have it connected to what should be the satellite input on that TV ???


    If that is not the problem, temporarily move to a east facing window in the house?, and have the loop part of the set-top aerial broadside with the transmitter and see if it works then ??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    Seems to be one of these, with the brandname being visible on the box photo.

    Use of an extension lead is mentioned in previous posts too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    What "Antenna" the poster, is checking is that if the one for all aerial has an fconnector (which I doubt it does) which would traditionally used for satellite that you didnt connect it to the satellite input. I am sure it has a traditional RF aerial connection

    I'd asked you earlier, but I see you answered Thurston that there is a big building across the road. That is most likely blocking any possibility of signal.

    I am sure if you put that aerial outside on the ledge (not when its wet!!!) that you might actually get some form of signal, but that is of no use to you.

    It sounds like you are you in an apartment. Have you checked the wall sockets to make sure that there isnt a feed from a communal aerial already there ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    STB. wrote: »
    What "Antenna" the poster, is checking is that if the one for all aerial has an fconnector (which I doubt it does) which would traditionally used for satellite that you didnt connect it to the satellite input. I am sure it has a traditional RF aerial connection

    I'd asked you earlier, but I see you answered Thurston that there is a big building across the road. That is most likely blocking any possibility of signal.

    I am sure if you put that aerial outside on the ledge (not when its wet!!!) that you might actually get some form of signal, but that is of no use to you.

    It sounds like you are you in an apartment. Have you checked the wall sockets to make sure that there isnt a feed from a communal aerial already there ?

    The Aerial is a plugin one and is plugged directly into the aerial slot on the back of the TV. There is a 8ft wall about five yards from the apartment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    The Aerial is a plugin one and is plugged directly into the aerial slot on the back of the TV. There is a 8ft wall about five yards from the apartment.

    The picture is correct it's a one 4 all indoor amplified aerial.

    I got a loan of a Mercury brand indoor Aerial I'm going to try that as well and see if there's any difference


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    Aerial location is your problem. The transmitter network wasn't designed with indoor reception as a priority, so you have to give it all the help you can WRT building penetration etc.

    Have you followed the suggestion of a previous poster re. investigating any installed wallplates?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    Thurston? wrote: »
    Aerial location is your problem. The transmitter network wasn't designed with indoor reception as a priority, so you have to give it all the help you can WRT building penetration etc.

    Have you followed the suggestion of a previous poster re. investigating any installed wallplates?

    Hi, please take a look at the below picture this is on on of the walls in the apartment.

    Could this be what you are talking about ?

    But how would it work if I put the aerial in that socket and also plug the aeria plugl into the wall. How does that get the picture onto the TV itself ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    Hi, please take a look at the below picture this is on on of the walls in the apartment.

    Could this be what you are talking about ?

    But how would it work if I put the aerial in that socket and also plug the aeria plugl into the wall. How does that get the picture onto the TV itself ?

    Better picture below


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,672 ✭✭✭exaisle


    Hi, please take a look at the below picture this is on on of the walls in the apartment.

    Could this be what you are talking about ?

    But how would it work if I put the aerial in that socket and also plug the aeria plugl into the wall. How does that get the picture onto the TV itself ?

    Eh....get some coaxial cable with a connector at each end. Plug one end into tht socket in the wall...plug the other end into the TV. Say a quick rosary, and try tuning the tv....

    If by any chance the cable at the back of that socket is connected to some kind of communial antenna, you might be in luck..


    Otherwise, it might be worth asking some of the other inmates...eh...I mean residents....what the socket in the wall is connected to...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Donutz


    But how would it work if I put the aerial in that socket and also plug the aeria plugl into the wall. How does that get the picture onto the TV itself ?

    That socket should be connected to an ariel. All you need is a cable to run from the socket to ariel port in your tv. Just go to any electrical store and ask for a male to male ariel cable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    Donutz wrote: »
    That socket should be connected to an ariel. All you need is a cable to run from the socket to ariel port in your tv. Just go to any electrical store and ask for a male to male ariel cable.

    Cheers bud. I'll do that, hopefully I'll b in luck


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    Cheers bud. I'll do that, hopefully I'll b in luck

    Is this the right type of cable to use ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    Is this the right type of cable to use ?

    Ps what is the purpose of this small item included in packet ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Donutz


    That looks like the wrong cable. That's a f connector cable like the cable that screws into a sky box.

    What you need is an old fashioned male to male ariel cable.

    Edit: I'll see if I can post a picture of the type of cable I think you might need in a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    Donutz wrote: »
    That looks like the wrong cable. That's a f connector cable like the cable that screws into a sky box.

    What you need is an old fashioned male to male ariel cable.

    Edit: I'll see if I can post a picture of the type of cable I think you might need in a while.

    Better picture of the cable connection points below,

    Ya reckon it's the wrong type ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Donutz


    Better picture of the cable connection points below,

    Ya reckon it's the wrong type ?

    I think so. Here is what I reckon you might need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    Donutz wrote: »
    I think so. Here is what I reckon you might need.

    Hi there was no attachment with last message


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Donutz


    Better picture of the cable connection points below,

    Ya reckon it's the wrong type ?

    I think so. Here is what I reckon you might need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    Donutz wrote: »
    I think so. Here is what I reckon you might need.

    Ok would this b it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    Ok would this b it ?

    Sry final picture. I think this is the one u mean ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Donutz


    Sry final picture. I think this is the one u mean ?

    This is what you need


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