Journalism and cycling

tomasrojo · 13-01-2018 02:16PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

MTB'er don't get away with it either, as soon as they move from cars onto two feet, the attitudes follow...

I should have said that Frank Skinner didn't put cyclists in Room 101. He said nice things about them (a bit too much along the lies of "trying to save the world", but it was sincere.)

Corca Baiscinn · 13-01-2018 08:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Wouldn't it have been great if there was a guest on she didn't know was a cyclist and got schooled on the reason for going 2 abreast and why it's safer for all concerned on live TV even the RSA ad nearly gets that right. I've never in my life felt an urge to contact the broadcasting authority but I do now :mad:

Do complain! (As will I) but afaik it's rte you have to complain to first and if they don't addresss it to your satisfaction tehn the next step is the Broadcasting Authority. It certainly seemed to breach the conditions re causing/promoting/inciting harm or offence.

I'd never heard of Room 101, so was this LL rip-off intended as light comedy?

ED E · 15-01-2018 12:13PM

Times is packed full of positive coverage today. Class.

Annie get your Run · 15-01-2018 04:48PM

ED E wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/eco-eye-1112/10825040/

Cycling featurette contained within. Presenter gets cut up twice on the quays.

Just getting around to watching this. The 'greenway' they talk about from around 12 mins in is part my commute, the roundabout they mention at the end of the greenway leads onto the R149, the bane of my life....The do talk about the speed of the cars there but would love for them to have looked at where the road leads to.

We could definitely do with more of this type of programming / reporting.

Trojan · 15-01-2018 11:59PM

In case it wasn't posted somewhere here already:

https://twitter.com/IrishCycle/status/952915215359856641

eeeee · 16-01-2018 12:37AM

Trojan wrote: »

In case it wasn't posted somewhere here already:

https://twitter.com/IrishCycle/status/952915215359856641

I'd throw that into the Party Bus too Trojan, so more might catch it.

Trojan · 16-01-2018 12:41AM

Actually I just noticed that they updated to say they have enough (though personally I'd send them EVERYTHING).

eeeee · 16-01-2018 12:44AM

No harm, the more the better I'd say!

Muahahaha · 16-01-2018 01:01AM

Dublin Cycling Campaign have sent a complaint about the Late Late Show piece on cycling to RTE

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/01/15/soft-headed-and-hard-hearted/

Annie get your Run · 16-01-2018 09:43PM

According to twitter there was the usual 'balanced' discussion on cyclists on Ivan Yates Newstalk today.

https://twitter.com/IrishCycle/status/953303091406934016

I"m absolutely not listening back, do so at your peril!!!

buffalo · 16-01-2018 10:02PM

Annie get your Run wrote: »

According to twitter there was the usual 'balanced' discussion on cyclists on Ivan Yates Newstalk today.

Is 'Richard Grogan & Ass' an actual law firm?

Corca Baiscinn · 16-01-2018 10:08PM

Annie get your Run wrote: »

According to twitter there was the usual 'balanced' discussion on cyclists on Ivan Yates Newstalk today.

https://twitter.com/IrishCycle/status/953303091406934016

I"m absolutely not listening back, do so at your peril!!!

I listened so you wouldn't have to Annie....but how will you know where your rights end and your duty begins if you don't listen to the experts brought on for your enlightenment :rolleyes:

Annie get your Run · 16-01-2018 10:41PM

buffalo wrote: »

Is 'Richard Grogan & Ass' an actual law firm?

:D brilliant

Corca Baiscinn wrote: »

I listened so you wouldn't have to Annie....but how will you know where your rights end and your duty begins if you don't listen to the experts brought on for your enlightenment :rolleyes:

Indeed! I'll take my chances....:)

Attol · 16-01-2018 11:13PM

Some of the articles from The Times yesterday:

Minimum distance law would save cyclists’ lives, says minister

Cyclists using social media to show minister dangers they face every day

Mind the Gap

After lucky escape, I’m determined to make country safer

CramCycle · 16-01-2018 11:48PM

Employment Solicitors,Registered Trust and Estate Practitioners,and Registered Tax Consultants .Plain speaking and independent advice.Tweets not legal advice

Why is this guy and his ass on a discussion show about cyclists?

Chiparus · 17-01-2018 12:04AM

CramCycle wrote: »

Why is this guy and his ass on a discussion show about cyclists?

Clearly all the bankers were too busy?

It was dreadful stuff, cannot have a passing law because solicitors would challenge it in court.

tomasrojo · 17-01-2018 12:08AM

I see his twitter bio has "plain-speaking" in it, while @itaokelly who has been busy tweeting about cyclists needing to earn respect and stop being shrill, has "opinionated journalist" in her bio.

Coincidentally, I also saw this today:
https://twitter.com/iamreddave/status/953215378951372800

17-01-2018 01:15AM

€900k awarded to family of cyclist killed in 2012

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2018/0116/933840-oleary-award/

RIP I remember reading about this at the time. A terrible tragedy.

Muahahaha · 17-01-2018 01:32AM

Yeah that was a very sad case. Made sadder by him doing the Ring of Kerry cycle for a downs syndrome charity as his daughter has downs. And then worse by the driver of the Land Cruiser that killed him doing a runner to Australia. At least he got caught in the end but what a spineless creature.

RIP Paud OLeary

Lumen · 17-01-2018 06:59AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

€900k awarded to family of cyclist killed in 2012

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2018/0116/933840-oleary-award/

RIP I remember reading about this at the time. A terrible tragedy.

Only 40% more tragic than Mary Harney being called an alcoholic, according to our wonderful legal system.

magicbastarder · 19-01-2018 10:17AM

nowt to do with cycling, but good god:

Drunk driver given community service for killing man, injuring gardaí
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/drunk-driver-given-community-service-for-killing-man-injuring-garda%C3%AD-1.3360756

Macy0161 · 19-01-2018 10:44AM

magicbastarder wrote: »

nowt to do with cycling, but good god:

There's feck all enforcement, and when cases do go to court, it always seems to be lenient. There is no real disincentive to dangerous driving.

Lumen · 19-01-2018 11:41AM

Macy0161 wrote: »

There's feck all enforcement, and when cases do go to court, it always seems to be lenient. There is no real disincentive to dangerous driving.

Did you real the article? The widow requested clemency.

RayCun · 19-01-2018 11:56AM

Lumen wrote: »

Did you real the article? The widow requested clemency.

what about the severely injured garda?

Four years driving ban, for getting drunk and driving into three people at speed

mr spuckler · 19-01-2018 11:57AM

Lumen wrote: »

Did you real the article? The widow requested clemency.

I didn't read about the Garda who suffered life changing injuries requesting clemency though.

Lumen · 19-01-2018 12:12PM

mr spuckler wrote: »

I didn't read about the Garda who suffered life changing injuries requesting clemency though.

Muphry's Law strikes again. (slaps self)

Macy0161 · 19-01-2018 12:20PM

Lumen wrote: »

Did you real the article? The widow requested clemency.

Views of the victims family don't seem to matter when they come out disgusted with a lenient sentence, so no pass for the judge from me.

magicbastarder · 19-01-2018 12:35PM

i genuinely don't care if the widow requested clemency. i (possibly mistakenly) regard one of the reasons for a justice system is that it takes the task of levying justice out of the victim's hands. the effect on the victim and their family *is* evidence; but as the perp broke society's laws, they should get what society deems fair.

schemingbohemia · 19-01-2018 01:34PM

The thing that gets me is that this drunk - Adrian Nestor - killed someone then uses his "depression" to drink more and then uses that as mitigation! If he was truly sorry he'd have given up the drink straight away.
Whatever about jail time (which he should definitely have received) the very short driving ban is a disgrace.

magicbastarder · 19-01-2018 01:42PM

What's weird is that his driving ban is about the same duration as the custodial sentence you might have expected. Is it just me who gets the impression that the courts treat driving as almost akin to a human right?

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