PW Boards Draft XI - Discussion Thread!

Mr. Guappa · 14-01-2018 11:16PM

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paulie21 wrote: »

Could someone PM Lord TSC to let him know it’s his pick thanks

Done.

Was wondering how long Sheamus would last.

Lord TSC · 14-01-2018 11:24PM

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I'm not risking Kofi any longer :P

beakerjoe · 14-01-2018 11:33PM

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Jesus.... so much talent available. I had someone in mind but good god theres a few talents that should have gone already

Furious-Red · 15-01-2018 12:43AM

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I thought Sheamus had gone , Ive one or 2 picks ready but 100& worried neither will be still around

15-01-2018 01:29AM

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Been in England all weekend. The Miztourage were almost a panic pick. Half not knowing where I wanted to go next half not wanting to miss the deadline

beakerjoe · 15-01-2018 11:22AM

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Took a risk in Heyman. Not because I didn’t want him, but I usually draft a figure head much later in the draft and especially with so much great talent still on the table, I feel I maybe should have held off on Heyman.

However, Heyman fits my plan perfectly.

Necro · 15-01-2018 11:24AM

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The issue with waiting so long for your pick, or in my case anyways... is the temptation to rip up my current plans and go in a different direction...

On a similar note... boo... I wanted Sheamus

beakerjoe · 15-01-2018 01:00PM

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With us being in round 6, I would like to confirm exactly what should be done in the write up phase this year. I have had a few posts from some of the players here outlining what they felt should be included in the write ups.

With that said not everyone playing contributed to the conversation and I would like to get the matter sorted before the evaluation thread opens at round 10.

So I my proposal was to have a 3 post limit (with an extra post available for the PPV if it needed to be split in two parts). I feel it’s the right course of action to address the lack of submissions from last year, however I am aware some may view it as too restrictive. I would like to strike the right balance.

Now I know that doesn’t sit well with everyone but it did with some. So Id like to add a poll to sort this matter out once and for all. Is ok with folk? (if so please thank this post)

Spongey1975 · 15-01-2018 01:13PM

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I know from personal history i always loved writing 4 TV shows and a PPV. It gives you enough space to build up your feuds and you can also throw in some light hearted spots that dont really add anything to your feuds but give some comic relief. I'm still actually thinking that way when planning my feuds this year but will need to switch to a different thinking to squeeze things into one build up post

Necro · 15-01-2018 01:20PM

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Spongey1975 wrote: »

I know from personal history i always loved writing 4 TV shows and a PPV. It gives you enough space to build up your feuds and you can also throw in some light hearted spots that dont really add anything to your feuds but give some comic relief. I'm still actually thinking that way when planning my feuds this year but will need to switch to a different thinking to squeeze things into one build up post

Me too but to allow others to get shows in a reduction is fair imo. My one change as said would be to allow people to use the four posts as they wanted as opposed to restricting the format.

It won't affect me terribly regardless though.

beakerjoe · 15-01-2018 01:25PM

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Spongey1975 wrote: »

I know from personal history i always loved writing 4 TV shows and a PPV. It gives you enough space to build up your feuds and you can also throw in some light hearted spots that dont really add anything to your feuds but give some comic relief. I'm still actually thinking that way when planning my feuds this year but will need to switch to a different thinking to squeeze things into one build up post

Id like to get at least 20 votes (one from each player) to steer me in the right direction. When I think of my shows last year I had 1 roster review post, 4 weekly shows, a PPV preview post and a PPV post split into two parts. That’s what I enjoy doing and like you Spngey its how my mind is working in relation to my current draft picks and ideas.

That said last years submissions was fairly low, with only 4/5 guys finishing out of 20 despite deadlines being pushed back and back. I feel like while those 5 players don’t mind, the other 15 feel alienated from the write ups side of the game as a result and Id like to get everyone involved.

I don’t want to restrict those long time players whom work is always of a high standard and in some cases a high volume, while I don’t want to discourage other players by creating a game that has a daunting amount of writing or reading.

I know I cant please everyone here, but I want the game to be as fun as possible.

I would like to get the views from everyone, from new players such as Mr Guppa and Kolido, veterans like MNG, Lord TSC, Liz and Bounty Hunter and returning players like Con man, Alfred Borden and Uncle Walt.

I would like to have 5 options for folk to choose.

1. 3 Posts max to use as you see fit

2. 4 posts max to use as you see fit

3. 5 posts max to use as you see fit

4. 6 Posts max to use as you see fit

5. Keep things the same as previous years. (7/8 post limit)

15-01-2018 01:27PM

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From my understanding, how we use the 4 post limit is up to us.

So it could 3 shows and a PPV, 1 preview post a build up post then a 2 post ppv, a preview post 4 shows squeezed into 2 posts then a ppv post. Or none of these.

I don't mind what is decided in the end, sure I always seemed to write a good enough opening show then run out of steam anyway. I think the 4 post max will help focus ideas and styles. As I was told in college the most important part of writing is editing and rewriting. So if anything it could help deliver a better standard of work at the end

DM_7 · 15-01-2018 01:29PM

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Necrominus wrote: »

Me too but to allow others to get shows in a reduction is fair imo. My one change as said would be to allow people to use the four posts as they wanted as opposed to restricting the format.

It won't affect me terribly regardless though.

I still think that is fairest, four posts in total. No extra parts.

It is not like the will be four essays. Just easier for some to put somethig coherent together in 4 posts.

I think the focus to have things snappier will make me vote for people who make things that way.

Personally I have no interest in reading 'Lock up, x gets upperhand and arm drags y" and so on. But if someone tells a story about two peoples interactions then it will be easier to read.

I would like to do four:
- Post an intro to the roster
- background to how matches came together part 1 - snappy
- background t second half of the card - snappy
- PPV - the matches, results and short few lines at the end about the future of the 'company'

Mr. Guappa · 15-01-2018 01:31PM

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I had a certain idea in my mind for how to present my write-ups but I'll be able to adjust and fit in with whatever format is decided.

It's probably too late this year, but if you want to reduce the amount of work required in the write-ups, the best way may be to reduce the number of picks. Looking at last year, and most people had 22-24 performers on their roster. That's an awful lot to find roles for. Maybe reduce the number of rounds to 14, reduce the tag team limit to 4, have a rule that you must have at least 3 non-wrestlers on your roster, and limit number of matches on your card to 5/6? All just ideas for next year really.

Necro · 15-01-2018 01:34PM

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DM_7 wrote:

I would like to do four: - Post an intro to the roster - background to how matches came together part 1 - snappy - background t second half of the card - snappy - PPV - the matches, results and short few lines at the end about the future of the 'company'

I actually like this despite my penchant for writing out full matches descriptively. It's a decent format to follow tbf and people can see your plans without physically describing the matches....

That said I can't promise I won't be able to help myself describing the matches.... I tend to get carried away :pac:

A Brad Maddox Guy · 15-01-2018 01:35PM

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It's a three post limit, the 4th post is listed as an option in the event the PPV needs to be extended due to picture limits and I think Beaker is right to implement it this way. If after this year people think the 3 posts isn't enough, or the amount of submissions & votes still aren't significantly improved in number then we can revise it for next year.

Though I would say that if people want to use the 3 posts however they feel that would be fair i.e. 2 weekly shows & a PPV or Roster overview, PPV Preview, PPV and any combination in between. Once it doesn't exceed two non-PPV shows.

Mr. Guappa · 15-01-2018 01:43PM

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I'm somewhere between what Brad and DM_7 have suggested above. So it would either be:

Intro
2 x build-up posts (snappy)
PPV

Or

Intro
1 x longer build-up post (basically the same as above but combined)
PPV

Even though i prefer the first, I'm kind of leaning more towards the 2nd as that seems likely to be more likely to increase submissions. Either way, no more than 4 posts.

beakerjoe · 15-01-2018 01:45PM

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A Brad Maddox Guy wrote: »

It's a three post limit, the 4th post is listed as an option in the event the PPV needs to be extended due to picture limits and I think Beaker is right to implement it this way. If after this year people think the 3 posts isn't enough, or the amount of submissions & votes still aren't significantly improved in number then we can revise it for next year.

Though I would say that if people want to use the 3 posts however they feel that would be fair i.e. 2 weekly shows & a PPV or Roster overview, PPV Preview, PPV and any combination in between. Once it doesn't exceed two non-PPV shows.

The bold piece Ive highlight is what I envisioned when taking into account the feedback from last year, though I am aware some feel the limit is restrictive as well as the format. I feel 4 posts max is the way to go but I will let the vote decide.

DM_7 · 15-01-2018 01:56PM

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That bolded piece is the same to me as the four posts.

The only difference is I have to copy and paste my two part PPV preview into one post.

My wish to have 4 parts was to make them easier to read, rather than a bloated second post and I can have two 'snappy' parts.

Kolido · 15-01-2018 02:00PM

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From a new player's perspective, I would be happy a 4 post limit, I guess players can use them how it suits them. For me, I was thinking of going with

Introduction to promotion and roster
2 x TV (build up) shows
PPV

Write ups wouldn't be my strong suit but I appreciate some players may like more posts to showcase everything.

On a side note, is there a limit on Boards as to how many words,gifs,pictures you can include in a single post?

Necro · 15-01-2018 02:01PM

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Kolido wrote: »

From a new player's perspective, I would be happy a 4 post limit, I guess players can use them how it suits them. For me, I was thinking of going with

Introduction to promotion and roster
2 x TV (build up) shows
PPV

Write ups wouldn't be my strong suit but I appreciate some players may like more posts to showcase everything.

On a side note, is there a limit on Boards as to how many words,gifs,pictures you can include in a single post?

Words... nope. Pics/Gifs... Think it's 15 or even less per post.

A Brad Maddox Guy · 15-01-2018 02:16PM

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DM_7 wrote: »

That bolded piece is the same to me as the four posts.

The only difference is I have to copy and paste my two part PPV preview into one post.

My wish to have 4 parts was to make them easier to read, rather than a bloated second post and I can have two 'snappy' parts.

In fairness that as a layout does make a lot of sense and as you say would keep your posts snappy & easy to read, particularly if you're not planning on going too in-depth with matches (something I'm terrible at outside of gimmick matches :pac: )

Bounty Hunter · 15-01-2018 02:24PM

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If it was up to me it'd be 4 shows (to make it more accessible) in whatever form the poster wants but I am more than happy to go along with the previously outlined 3 shows (Intro, feuds, PPV) with the last one most likely being split into 2 posts (so 4 in total max).

#20 in this round has me making not plans as they will probably all be gone before it gets to me but at least I should already know when I am in the next round before I pick this time.

ShagNastii · 15-01-2018 02:28PM

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Kolido wrote: »

I would be happy a 4 post limit, I guess players can use them how it suits them. For me, I was thinking of going with

Introduction to promotion and roster
2 x TV (build up) shows
PPV

This is exactly how I was am going to try play it.

I'd highlight that I wouldn't be too concerned about a limit post-wise. It certainly should be an AT LEAST as opposed to a NO MORE THAN.

Personally I think it would be great if we could pick a rock-solid template and everyone comes back with the same.

That said, if a guy or girl wants to go above and beyond (provided it's reasonable) I can't see why we would stop or restict them.

The main reason we are discussing this is the utter crap amount of submissions last year. We have to aim to solve this whether that be a less daunting write up expectation or encouragement through a rolling deadline I.e "We're looking for your preview/1st TV show by the end of this week". Itll hopefully give folks a chance of avoiding a pile up of writing.

One post a week/fortnight wouldn't or shouldn't be too much of an ask.

Necro · 15-01-2018 02:46PM

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I like you Shag... but don't be telling me no limits now...

You'll get an entire years worth of storylines out of me :pac:

A Brad Maddox Guy · 15-01-2018 02:58PM

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ShagNastii wrote: »

I'd highlight that I wouldn't be too concerned about a limit post-wise. It certainly should be an AT LEAST as opposed to a NO MORE THAN.

That said, if a guy or girl wants to go above and beyond (provided it's reasonable) I can't see why we would stop or restict them.

The main reason we are discussing this is the utter crap amount of submissions last year.

I agree with some of your post but strongly disagree with the above. Its not just the amount of submissions, it's the amount of votes too. Reading everyone's posts takes a long time, especially if we're free to do as you suggest here.

It's also not just last year either, this problem has been getting worse each year which is the whole reason an overhaul of the writing process was brought up months ago.

A Brad Maddox Guy · 15-01-2018 03:05PM

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I've said already that I'll go along with whatever the majority want but this discussion has been going on months now. The revised rules were laid out at the beginning of the draft and my opinion is that we should stick with them this year, then after the winners are announced review how it went and decide how best to proceed in future Drafts based on the results.

So Beaker you can consider that my answer for the poll :pac:

Bounty Hunter · 15-01-2018 03:07PM

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Yeah I always get my stuff in on time, and do vote but there can be a mountain of reading to do before you vote. If it results in most people submitting shows and as many people as possible voting im happy with a 4?post maximum, even though i've written more than most.

beakerjoe · 15-01-2018 03:12PM

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Poll added......... 5 days on it, so lets get this cleared up

Necro · 15-01-2018 03:16PM

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Ok, voted for 4 posts. I like the way DM_7 outlined it above so I think it's a fair compromise for all.

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