Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

Topcat32 wrote: »

I'm sure the teams being pick are at least partly influenced by the Fitzgibbon Cup, makes more sense to give players who wont be playing much games at this time of year game time. Interesting to see Conor Browne and Bill Sheehan on the panel last week giving they werent involved with the under 21s last year. Always thought Cody but far more emphasis on club form than underage intercounty form.

Conor Browne wasn't involved with the 21's last year because he spent the summer working and hurling in Chicago.

Tbh I wasn't overly impressed with the performance today but I wouldn't be writing anyone off playing on a cold January day on a spongy pitch. Ollie Walsh did ok while he was on. John Walsh had some good touches and Ryan Bergin got on a lot of ball when he was on, seemed to be a loose man. Interesting to see four Mullinavat men on the pitch today. Conor Delaney not really tested today.

I wouldn't be too critical of lads thrown together in the first week of the year lads are trying to do the right thing and that's all you can ask for.the management have looked at over 30 different players in 2 matches that they won by 20 points each.The offally match will be another step up in class.A win there will mean a home final against wex/dub which would be nice rehearsal before the opening round of the league.

brookville wrote: »

i heard the first 9 of the club team of the year earlier,no huge suprises,holohan in goal,conor Delaney,tom alyward and john dalton in the full back line,conor fogarty,buckley and eoin McGrath in the half back line,robbie fitz and willie o dwyer in mf.i thought Richie reid,oillie walsh and maybe rice can count themselves unlucky but that'll always be the case with these sort of things

Is the full team listed anywhere?

Formosa wrote: »

LOL, bookies are paying out on Kilkenny for the All Ireland after that magnificent win.

Decent run out from the lads and its hard to be too critical, especially given the conditions but it is time for the lads to make a positive showing for themselves.

Brennan - not a whole lot to do but seems a super keeper. wont dislodge muyrphy any time soon though.
Tommy Walsh - was ok and did what was required of him.
Conor Delaney - As above with Tommy but i do like to look of him.
Ryan Bergin - In as a replacement and i thought did very well.
Simon Aylward - Seems decent.
Conor o shea - gets on an amount of ball, seems to have trimmed up and looks fit but needs to be more commanding in the air to try to win his own ball.
Mark Mansfield - Like aylward looked decent in the half back line but the half back line as a whole need to be more dominant in the air.
Ollie Walsh - no doubting his skill and went well yesterday
Huw Lawlor - didnt think he was on top of his game yesterday
Liam Blanchfield - He is one that we may be depending on later in the year. Very strong and always looking for the ball.
Colum Prenderville - 1st start. looks ok but not effective enough at centre forward but hard to be critical as it was his 1st day out.
Martin Keoghan: Looked decent, got a couple of points as well.
Kevin Farrell: very good hurler but needs time. frees werent great yesterday.
Billy Ryan: Undoubted talent, wasnt outstanding yesterday but will hold a place on the panel i think.
John Walsh: Small enbough frame but took scores very well. would work a lot better on faster ground too.

Scanlon, sheehan, jowy and more came in. all three will be there or thereabouts come the panel shake up.

John Walsh looked good along with blanchfield, ollie walsh and bergin.
After going 6 points to no score up we found it hard to win our own ball and a lot of passes went astray but all in all considering the conditions the game served its purpose to look at different guys.
I presume there will be more new starts this sunday v offaly mixed with some from yesterday and some from the laois match.

usualstripes wrote: »

Formosa wrote: »

LOL, bookies are paying out on Kilkenny for the All Ireland after that magnificent win.

Decent run out from the lads and its hard to be too critical, especially given the conditions but it is time for the lads to make a positive showing for themselves.

Brennan - not a whole lot to do but seems a super keeper. wont dislodge muyrphy any time soon though.
Tommy Walsh - was ok and did what was required of him.
Conor Delaney - As above with Tommy but i do like to look of him.
Ryan Bergin - In as a replacement and i thought did very well.
Simon Aylward - Seems decent.
Conor o shea - gets on an amount of ball, seems to have trimmed up and looks fit but needs to be more commanding in the air to try to win his own ball.
Mark Mansfield - Like aylward looked decent in the half back line but the half back line as a whole need to be more dominant in the air.
Ollie Walsh - no doubting his skill and went well yesterday
Huw Lawlor - didnt think he was on top of his game yesterday
Liam Blanchfield - He is one that we may be depending on later in the year. Very strong and always looking for the ball.
Colum Prenderville - 1st start. looks ok but not effective enough at centre forward but hard to be critical as it was his 1st day out.
Martin Keoghan: Looked decent, got a couple of points as well.
Kevin Farrell: very good hurler but needs time. frees werent great yesterday.
Billy Ryan: Undoubted talent, wasnt outstanding yesterday but will hold a place on the panel i think.
John Walsh: Small enbough frame but took scores very well. would work a lot better on faster ground too.

Scanlon, sheehan, jowy and more came in. all three will be there or thereabouts come the panel shake up.

John Walsh looked good along with blanchfield, ollie walsh and bergin.
After going 6 points to no score up we found it hard to win our own ball and a lot of passes went astray but all in all considering the conditions the game served its purpose to look at different guys.
I presume there will be more new starts this sunday v offaly mixed with some from yesterday and some from the laois match.

Agreed with most of that although I was very disappointed with the overall team performance and some individuals. While I certainly would not rule out any bodys potential on the basis of game in a cold soggy January game I thought alot of lads failed to make any impression at all. 
Though best displays were from Bergin, Mansfield, Ollie Walsh, John Walsh and Mossy Keoghan. As mentioned previously after Laois game there seems to be an emphasis on a strong spare man running off the shoulder game plan.... with Mansfield point in second half as prime example.
John Walsh took his goals well along with a superb individual point from the sideline in the second half but being better opposition would have prevented those goals opportunities in the first place but he took the chances presented to him all the same. Mossy Keoghan really is a hurler I think can make serious impression and addition to the panel with a bit of fine tuning in his game.

davidx40 wrote: »

I dont think you can seriously take anything from these matches bar the players fittness is improved ....its very hard to judge players in these games with the standard so low ......

Very good article by kerian bergin in yesterdays paper about demands of players both intercounty and club .....its gone completely over the top ......totally agree about his point on 1% of players holding up other 99% ....this intercounty thing has to change ....you should be available for all your club matches if you get injured so be it ..you have same chance getting injured training in nowlan park ....we are losing players all over the country because of fixture delays caused by stupid county team managers ....it has to change

You wouldn't be able to upload a couple of good quality pics of the actual newspaper article if possible? Wld appreciate it greatly..

https://www.buzz.ie/amp/gaa/treated-like-complete-child-268107?__twitter_impression=true

That's her there

Compare that to this interview with recently retired Kerry hurler Tweek Griffin

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/the-john-tweek-griffin-interview-every-young-irish-person-deserves-the-opportunity-to-play-hurling-465419.html

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

https://www.buzz.ie/amp/gaa/treated-like-complete-child-268107?__twitter_impression=true

That's her there

Compare that to this interview with recently retired Kerry hurler Tweek Griffin

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/the-john-tweek-griffin-interview-every-young-irish-person-deserves-the-opportunity-to-play-hurling-465419.html

Jesus can you imagine being in a team with someone who does as much moaning as Bergin?

Comerman wrote: »

That match is down for Saturday at 2 stripes,

I presume the team will be made up of the 30 something lads we seen so far.Hopefully we'll see a few more fringe players added to the 26.
I'd like to see more of deegan corner back he has pace and could be a dark horse for corner back.
Hopefully the experimenting continues this weekend I wouldn't be too bothered about the result.

Some job picking a team for Championship now:

Will Paul Murphy & Colin Fennelly play any part this year ?
Colin be a big addition, Paul Murphy not as much.
Any news on Richie Hogan ?
Not so sure Conor o'Shea is the answer Centre back ?
Was a poor wing forward for his club a few years back, is Joe Lyng a better option.

5 stand out players to start:
Padraig Walsh
TJ Reid
Walter Walsh
Eoin Murphy
Richie Hogan

Open season after them 5

greenspurs wrote: »

Walter Walsh ? Stand out player ? jeepers !

Well i do think he is a starter, All Star 2016. I cant think of many better players than TJ who is better than Walter in the air and brings that physicality.