Does anyone miss the recession ?

Wanderer78 · 24-12-2017 07:52AM

Keep the recovery going folks!

Wheeliebin30 · 24-12-2017 09:34AM

Spoiled nation.

Reputable Rog · 24-12-2017 09:40AM

It hasn't gone away you know, the next one will be with us fairly sharpish.

Peatys · 24-12-2017 09:45AM

Free flowing m50 was great.

DeanAustin · 24-12-2017 09:47AM

What a thread.

“I miss when the country has no money, jobs were being lost hand over fist, the Troika dictated how we spend our money and the dole queues were lengthening.”

When people talk about the Irish being miserable begrudgers, this thread should be Exhibit A.

Dakota Dan · 24-12-2017 09:49AM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Bitcoin is Fool's Gold.

Plenty fools have made money from it and moved on.

GhostyMcGhost · 24-12-2017 09:50AM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Plenty fools have made money from it and moved on.

Until revenue coming looking for CGT

lisasimpson · 24-12-2017 09:52AM

O definitately certain people havent learnt. Im in mid 30s and plenty my age were around to experience it but havent learnt, spending like theres no tomorrow...for the life of me i cant understanding those with mortgages not availing of the low interest rates to pay off a bit extra rather than spending on 50 euro pippa candles or latest gagget just for the sake of it......going to be some craic when interest rates start rising again

Annasopra · 24-12-2017 09:53AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Honestly it's not a boom period yet.
Still hard to get jobs. Not like before recession where a lot of places were crying for staff.

I remember 30 page job supplements

Turtyturd · 24-12-2017 09:55AM

Have talked about this a few times with my OH and other than having more money (most important factor, I know) it doesn’t actually seem like the recession is over.

I think the last boom came at a really good time for us as we were late teens to mid twenties so didn’t get bogged down with a €500,000 shoebox, had no bills, or children so were able to make the most of it.

Also during the last boom I worked a job that had me out around Dublin all day, and around the country a good bit so you were experiencing it every day. This time I go from home to an office and back so increased traffic is the only sign of it I see.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 24-12-2017 10:02AM

I don't miss the recession per say, as mass unemployment was grim and I hated to see my friends and family so stressed about keeping their jobs. But I do think Irish society has gotten totally consumed by wanting the absolute best of everything right now. 5 bed detached house in d4 with a range rover out front seems to be the Irish dream right now. It ****ing disgusts me.

Dakota Dan · 24-12-2017 10:04AM

GhostyMcGhost wrote: »

Until revenue coming looking for CGT

I'm sure most investors are aware of that, if you owe CGT you made a profit.

nullzero · 24-12-2017 10:05AM

Short answer, no

Long answer nooooooooo

_Brian · 24-12-2017 10:06AM

JupiterKid wrote: »

I was in Dundrum Town Centre this evening and judging from all the recently bought shiny 161, 162, 171 and 172 reg cars and the amount of shopping bags people were carrying, the "good times" are well and truly back.

Cold comfort to the homeless families who are living in hotel rooms or B&Bs.

I’ve no doubt in Dublin and other major urban areas that is the case, in rural areas it’s quite different.

Galwayguy35 · 24-12-2017 10:19AM

JupiterKid wrote: »

I was in Dundrum Town Centre this evening and judging from all the recently bought shiny 161, 162, 171 and 172 reg cars and the amount of shopping bags people were carrying, the "good times" are well and truly back.

Cold comfort to the homeless families who are living in hotel rooms or B&Bs.

FFS you'd swear they were living in a shed they way you are going on about it.

They have a roof over their head and a warm place to live in for free, if they weren't so picky about where they want to be housed there would be a lot less of them in hotels.

Fair play to anyone who has a 16 1 vehicle, they worked for the money to pay for it.

Ruth Coppinger must be your idol.

leggo · 24-12-2017 10:19AM

I thought this thread was gonna be good craic ripping the piss out of recession tropes. Then someone brought up the ****ing Troika...

DeanAustin · 24-12-2017 10:26AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

FFS you'd swear they were living in a shed they way you are going on about it.

They have a roof over their head and a warm place to live in for free, if they weren't so picky about where they want to be housed there would be a lot less of them in hotels.

Fair play to anyone who has a 16 1 vehicle, they worked for the money to pay for it.

Ruth Coppinger must be your idol.

Ah no. Sure they’re giving out 161 cars with the dole now. You get 2 if you’re a foreigner.

I saw one dole sponging woman dump a 151 Merc the other day coz she said it was time for an upgrade.

harr · 24-12-2017 10:27AM

Oh I miss it , while it never affected me as I didn’t have mad amounts of money to send during the boom and still the same now.
But I see friends who spent and lost a lot during the boom and bust back to the spending and borrowing again.
I miss being able to get a trade person to do a job they would be falling over themselves for any work during the recession.
Miss being able to get a room in a five star hotel for little money.
Taxis again are like gold dust and prices for everything are starting to get ridiculous again.

My sister works in retail and they can’t get part time workers again just like during the boom but during recession everyone and anyone was begging for even a few hours work .

King of Kings · 24-12-2017 10:29AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Fair play to anyone who has a 16 1 vehicle, they worked for the money to pay for it.

Ruth Coppinger must be your idol.

not really

They all just borrowing it (well most are) . It's not really a claim to fame.
There is no fair play involved if they convinced some loan shark to give them a PCP or a bank to loan them the cash.

No better than the unemployed hiring limos on communion day in my opinion.

Galwayguy35 · 24-12-2017 10:38AM

King of Kings wrote: »

not really

They all just borrowing it (well most are) . It's not really a claim to fame.
There is no fair play involved if they convinced some loan shark to give them a PCP or a bank to loan them the cash.

No better than the unemployed hiring limos on communion day in my opinion.

So what if they are borrowing for it, 15 years ago when I had no other loans to pay I borrowed for a new car and wished anyone who did the same all the best with their new vehicle.

I don't get the begrudgery for people who have a nice car, they paid for the bloody thing.

King of Kings · 24-12-2017 10:38AM

I loved the celtic tiger if I was honest. I was in my late teen when it started and mid 20s at it's height.
Was never one into loans or credit or second homes but I had a great social life.

Apart from taxes the recession didn't really effect me I continued work , although for a while rates we a lot lower.

I'll admit and accept it's very mean spirited but I did enjoy seeing some people knocked from their perch esp 2 loud mouthed wannabe trendy socialite clowns whose children was in my childs class. Yes they drove SUVs and nothing was good enough..

BillyBobBS · 24-12-2017 10:42AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

FFS you'd swear they were living in a shed they way you are going on about it.

They have a roof over their head and a warm place to live in for free, if they weren't so picky about where they want to be housed there would be a lot less of them in hotels.

Fair play to anyone who has a 16 1 vehicle, they worked for the money to pay for it.

Ruth Coppinger must be your idol.

Nonsense. If iv'e learned anything from boards it's that only unemployed people can afford nice cars and holidays. Let's not forget the free houses, 7 kids, lying in bed until 11am and drinking Dutch Gold.

King of Kings · 24-12-2017 10:42AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

So what if they are borrowing for it, 15 years ago when I had no other loans to pay I borrowed for a new car and wished anyone who did the same all the best with their new vehicle.

I don't get the begrudgery for people who have a nice car, they paid for the bloody thing.

I don't really begrudge them but it's not an achievement either to have a fancy but financed car.

The issue about borrowing as demonstrated by the crash is that many people couldnt actually afford their cars because they owed money for them and when the money wasn't there they were in trouble. All they did was convince somebody to loan them the cash.

As opposed to people who bought their cars for cash , they had no loan to pay if they got into financial difficulty.

foxatron · 24-12-2017 10:42AM

I miss when the m50 wasn't half as busy cause no one had a job to be driving to

ednwireland · 24-12-2017 10:50AM

Managed to hold down a job through the recession but ridiculous how quickly people have dropped back into conspicuous consumption. Finished my mortgage a few years ago so finally replace draughty doors and windows. With window companies saying they won't come out for less than a house (triple glazed patio door is 3.5k) hopefully get the drive done after 20 years next year.

People learnt nothing from the recession.

BillyBobBS · 24-12-2017 10:53AM

ednwireland wrote: »

Managed to hold down a job through the recession but ridiculous how quickly people have dropped back into conspicuous consumption. Finished my mortgage a few years ago so finally replace draughty doors and windows. With window companies saying they won't come out for less than a house (triple glazed patio door is 3.5k) hopefully get the drive done after 20 years next year.

People learnt nothing from the recession.

Was always going to be the way.

Motivator · 24-12-2017 10:56AM

The recession exposed irish people for what they really are. Begrudgers.

A worryingly large proportion of people shunned friends and family who were able to maintain a high standard of living through the worst of the recession. People wore their misfortune as a badge of honour and made themselves the victims while begrudging and belittling those who weren’t stupid enough to “invest in property” abroad.

I had/have no sympathy for those who tried to keep up appearances by borrowing up to their tits to get cars that were nicer than their neighbours. I had huge sympathy for the working man who busted his arse day in day out to put food on the table but I never had sympathy for those who were the cause of their own misfortune.

The recession was a disgusting time to be in Ireland, outside of Dublin and Cork anyway. In my home city, hard working people who were careful with their money over the years and who didn’t lose the lot were shunned by those around them out of sheer jealousy. I can remember conversations between people who “used” to be friends with so and so but weren’t friendly anymore because “Mary thinks she’s great because she still shops in SuperValu”. It was crazy stuff and I hope we never go back to those days.

OldMrBrennan83 · 24-12-2017 10:57AM

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BillyBobBS · 24-12-2017 10:58AM

King of Kings wrote: »

I don't really begrudge them but it's not an achievement either to have a fancy but financed car.

The issue about borrowing as demonstrated by the crash is that many people couldnt actually afford their cars because they owed money for them and when the money wasn't there they were in trouble. All they did was convince somebody to loan them the cash.

As opposed to people who bought their cars for cash , they had no loan to pay if they got into financial difficulty.

People are unable to live within their means that the problem. I drive a 2001 fiesta that cost me 500 euro last year. It get's me from A to B the same as a 50k Audi. I couldn't give a hoot how people view me as i drive it either.

The people who spend money on these status symbol items are as responsible as the politicians and the bankers who cause this boom and bust mess to keep happening. Same idiots will be crying on the Joe Duffy show or Primetime in a couple of years about how unfair it all is.

OldMrBrennan83 · 24-12-2017 10:59AM

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Does anyone miss the recession ?

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