white people dressing up as blackface

JupiterKid · 18-12-2017 1:20am

I’m sure a few posters here have seen the film Silver Streak from 1976 with comedy duo Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor. Wilder does blackface as a disguise and I don’t think anyone was outraged at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgAxvukW9dA

LadyMacBeth_ · 18-12-2017 9:11am

Like others have said, it's the context you need to look at. If there is racist intent or some sort of ridicule involved then that is offensive but that's not the case here. This guy just got dressed up for a fancy dress party and he clearly didn't mean anything derogatory by it. If you are dressing as a celebrity or in this case as a member of a basketball team that usually has predominantly black players then I don't see the problem. If I was famous I wouldn't risk it or I wouldn't put a photo up on Twitter but that's just because I know I'd be facing a backlash.

Bob Harris · 18-12-2017 9:15am

This bullshít again. If you want to dress up as a black personality then without painting yourself black it's a fairly shít attempt at dressing up.

tonycascarino · 18-12-2017 1:02pm

Strange that this alleged 'racism' is always one sided. Nobody was offended when (for example) the Wayans' Brothers dressed up as white people in White Chicks. I wonder if I dressed up green would the PC freaks get offended on behalf of Shrek and the Incredible Hulk...

DanMurphy · 18-12-2017 1:09pm

tonycascarino wrote: »

Strange that this alleged 'racism' is always one sided. Nobody was offended when (for example) the Wayans' Brothers dressed up as white people in White Chicks. I wonder if I dressed up green would the PC freaks get offended on behalf of Shrek and the Incredible Hulk...

Or Michael Jackson 'dyeing' his pus whiter than white. :pac:

hobie21 · 18-12-2017 1:14pm

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/white_chicks/

So is this movie racist against whiteys? The modern world is so confusing

Grayson · 18-12-2017 1:52pm

LadyMacBeth_ wrote: »

Like others have said, it's the context you need to look at. If there is racist intent or some sort of ridicule involved then that is offensive but that's not the case here. This guy just got dressed up for a fancy dress party and he clearly didn't mean anything derogatory by it. If you are dressing as a celebrity or in this case as a member of a basketball team that usually has predominantly black players then I don't see the problem. If I was famous I wouldn't risk it or I wouldn't put a photo up on Twitter but that's just because I know I'd be facing a backlash.

I do think there are a lot of cases where it's not intended to cause offence but I also think that you and I aren't the people who can decide if it is offensive. I could use the n word and think that it's fine because I'm not intending offence or that it's not offensive but if a load of black people take offence then it's still a bad thing to do.

Having said all that, a white guy who does blackface nearly always looks like an idiot and is therefore funny, intentionally or not.

Grayson · 18-12-2017 1:53pm

hobie21 wrote: »

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/white_chicks/

So is this movie racist against whiteys? The modern world is so confusing

I think it's because for a very long time white people who did blackface were mocking black people. Whereas there's no history of it being the other way around.

MagicIRL · 18-12-2017 1:55pm

This bad

antoine-griezmann-blackface.jpeg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780

This good

I believe that's how these things work.

KrustyUCC · 18-12-2017 1:57pm

Things far too PC these days

You can't have a 9 year old child dress up as his favourite footballers and paint his face black. Imagine that a kid pays tribute to somebody but the mother is still wrong

The child shouldn't need an alternative costume as there was only good intentions by wearing it

hobie21 · 18-12-2017 1:58pm

MagicIRL wrote: »

This bad

This good

I believe that's how these things work.

Got it.

jacksie66 · 18-12-2017 1:58pm

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hobie21 · 18-12-2017 1:59pm

jacksie66 wrote: »

Not a day goes by that someone isn't offended. Everyone is perpetually offended. It's usually not the people who should be offended. It's usually the people getting offended on behalf of other people. Then people get offended by people getting offended. It's all a joke.

I find your comments offensive.

LadyMacBeth_ · 18-12-2017 1:59pm

Grayson wrote: »

I do think there are a lot of cases where it's not intended to cause offence but I also think that you and I aren't the people who can decide if it is offensive. I could use the n word and think that it's fine because I'm not intending offence or that it's not offensive but if a load of black people take offence then it's still a bad thing to do.

Having said all that, a white guy who does blackface nearly always looks like an idiot and is therefore funny, intentionally or not.

I can see where you're coming from, but in this instance, who were the people mainly complaining? That's a genuine question by the way, I don't have twitter so I don't know if it was mainly white people being offended or a lot of black people being offended.

twinpeaks999 · 18-12-2017 2:00pm

Miss-leading title, Hes all black.

radiata · 18-12-2017 2:01pm

Griezmann is a pussy for apologising over nothing. Grow a pair of balls ffs

tonycascarino · 18-12-2017 2:06pm

radiata wrote: »

Griezmann is a pussy for apologising over nothing. Grow a pair of balls ffs

100% agree. If anything Griezmann should apologise for apologising.

Sunny Disposition · 18-12-2017 2:11pm

It's a bit much being offended, if you want to dress up to look like someone else obviously it makes sense to replicate their colouring. I don't know how someone can come to the conclusion that Griezman or that person who dressed up as the UK politician are making a point that white people are superior to black people.
I think it's one of those things that it has somehow been accepted is offensive, even though there is no real reason for it.

mfceiling · 18-12-2017 2:44pm

I'd like to dress up as Nelson Mandela...oh I can't.

Wait now I'll go as Barack Obama...oh no I can't.

Ah sure I'll pretend I'm Jay Z...ah shìte that's not on.

I'm offended that I can't go to a fancy dress party as anyone outside of white skin colour. Discrimination that's what it is.

_Dara_ · 18-12-2017 2:53pm

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Not the slightest bit racist. Great costume actually.

Still though, he does look like a golliwog. That's not going to go down well.

Salvation Tambourine · 18-12-2017 3:34pm

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/disney-moana-costume-pulled-after-complaints-1201868097/

Children's innocence of race and colour really getting taken away from them. I dressed up as Phil Babb when I was young, face paint and a Liverpool kit, I didn't think I was dressing up as a black footballer I just thought I was dressing up as a footballer.

I know we're not talking about a child but I think it's similar. South Park has a brilliant episode where they want to change the town flag because it depicts a black man being hung by white men. The kids protested that it shouldn't be changed and the parents were appalled thinking that their children were insensitive monsters. It turns out they didn't even notice that it was a black man being hung, they just saw people.

RoboRat · 18-12-2017 3:38pm

Not related to this post but 2 years ago I went to a party dressed as the hulk... painted myself dark green, had the messed jet black hair, ripped clothes etc.

Some daft moron comes up to me saying I am a disgrace and a racist and that blackface is horrendous etc. It was even worse that I was pretending to be a black homeless man. I couldn't stop laughing and the more I laughed, the more incensed she got, eventually she started threatening to call the guards and reporting me if i didn't remove it immediately.

Eventually another party goer told her that I was actually green and dressed as the Hulk. She left quickly.

_Dara_ · 18-12-2017 3:44pm

RoboRat wrote: »

Not related to this post but 2 years ago I went to a party dressed as the hulk... painted myself dark green, had the messed jet black hair, ripped clothes etc.

Some daft moron comes up to me saying I am a disgrace and a racist and that blackface is horrendous etc. It was even worse that I was pretending to be a black homeless man. I couldn't stop laughing and the more I laughed, the more incensed she got, eventually she started threatening to call the guards and reporting me if i didn't remove it immediately.

Eventually another party goer told her that I was actually green and dressed as the Hulk. She left quickly.

That must have been reeeeaally dark green.

ligerdub · 18-12-2017 4:01pm

RoboRat wrote: »

Not related to this post but 2 years ago I went to a party dressed as the hulk... painted myself dark green, had the messed jet black hair, ripped clothes etc.

Some daft moron comes up to me saying I am a disgrace and a racist and that blackface is horrendous etc. It was even worse that I was pretending to be a black homeless man. I couldn't stop laughing and the more I laughed, the more incensed she got, eventually she started threatening to call the guards and reporting me if i didn't remove it immediately.

Eventually another party goer told her that I was actually green and dressed as the Hulk. She left quickly.

Would have been quite funny had you got really annoyed and got yourself into a fit of rage and start smashing **** up.

Irish Guitarist · 18-12-2017 4:16pm

'Blackface' was a form of entertainment in which performers put black makeup on and acted like an uneducated buffoon while singing 'Ethiopian' songs which were actually American show tunes. It has absolutely no connection to someone dressing up as a successful, rich black celebrity for a fancy dress party.

And people can put what they want on their own face.

For Forks Sake · 18-12-2017 5:09pm

mfceiling wrote: »

I'd like to dress up as Nelson Mandela...oh I can't.

Wait now I'll go as Barack Obama...oh no I can't.

Ah sure I'll pretend I'm Jay Z...ah sh that's not on.

I'm offended that I can't go to a fancy dress party as anyone outside of white skin colour. Discrimination that's what it is.

Someone would have been offended and accused you of Cultural Appropriation anyway.

A Little Pony · 18-12-2017 5:16pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I have only ever seen white people getting offended over this. I remember a kid dressed up as Chris Kamara for Halloween one year, loads of white people got offended on his behalf, Kammy loved it.

White people who get offended on behalf of black people are the true racists. They believe black people are so inferior that they cannot articulate their own dissatisfaction.

Spot on. It's the bigotry of low expectations.

scdublin · 18-12-2017 5:22pm

It doesn't make someone racist but it does make them insensitive and ignorant (depending how much they've educated themselves about the reasons why black people are so offended). If something offends such a large amount of people and there's a lot of history behind it, I personally would never get myself involved. Especially these days as a celebrity, it's a pretty stupid move.

People argue that White Chicks is just as bad etc but realistically it's not. White people have never been oppressed the way black people have.

Royale with Cheese · 18-12-2017 5:24pm

At least he didn't use any black emojis

Vicxas · 18-12-2017 5:26pm

Jesus Christ, the whole world has gone too PC.

It was a costume, it wasn't derogatory, it wouldn't have made sense or looked stupid if he didn't put the face & body paint on.

People need a bottle of cop on.

white people dressing up as blackface

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