Dairy chit chat II

leg wax · 07-12-2017 10:00PM

anyone going to fermoy dairy sale in the morning,a big number on offer.

Mooooo · 08-12-2017 01:50PM

leg wax wrote: »

anyone going to fermoy dairy sale in the morning,a big number on offer.

Did you go yourself,? How did it pan out?

Coolfresian · 08-12-2017 02:50PM

Anyone use aubrac bulls on their dairy herd? Anyone finished them, did they kill out well or how do they compare to angus or Hereford from a fresian cow?

leg wax · 08-12-2017 06:23PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Did you go yourself,? How did it pan out?

can only say it was hot:(

Buford T. Justice XIX · 08-12-2017 06:24PM

leg wax wrote: »

can only say it was hot:(

You were buying, not selling so?:P

freedominacup · 08-12-2017 07:22PM

leg wax wrote: »

can only say it was hot:(

Different to the last ones you were at so?

K.G. · 08-12-2017 07:51PM

Coolfresian wrote: »

Anyone use aubrac bulls on their dairy herd? Anyone finished them, did they kill out well or how do they compare to angus or Hereford from a fresian cow?

used to use them ,grand cattle would grade higher than he\aa id say.downside is they take time no matter how much breeders try to convince otherwise.more suitable for a fella that rears his calves than a calf seller as their colour scares fellas in the mart

minktrapper · 08-12-2017 09:20PM

Report on Agriland. Average dairy farm income to exceed €90,000 for 2017. Your opinions please.

MIKEKC · 08-12-2017 09:29PM

minktrapper wrote: »

Report on Agriland. Average dairy farm income to exceed €90,000 for 2017. Your opinions please.

Income per farm is hardly the most important thing. Vast difference in farm size. Income per Ha is the best way to gauge profitability. Much talked about labour shortage is a major issue. Who would want to milk cows when we are near full employment?

minktrapper · 08-12-2017 09:57PM

minktrapper wrote: »

Report on Agriland. Average dairy farm income to exceed €90,000 for 2017. Your opinions please.

I said"average dairy farm income". What has that got to do with labour shortage.

whelan2 · 08-12-2017 09:59PM

minktrapper wrote: »

I said"average dairy farm income". What has that got to do with labour shortage.

What is an average dairy farmer?

minktrapper · 08-12-2017 10:02PM

whelan2 wrote: »

What is an average dairy farmer?

I presume the total amount of dairy cows in the country divided by the number of dairy farmers. Which will give you an average dairy farmer.

Floki · 08-12-2017 10:16PM

minktrapper wrote: »

I presume the total amount of dairy cows in the country divided by the number of dairy farmers. Which will give you an average dairy farmer.

Talking to a sheep farmer here and he said he was contacted by teagasc years ago and he was to be "the average farmer".
Not sure if it's still going on with him but in exchange for services he opened his books to them.
This was a while ago but he got a great kick out of telling us he was "the average farmer".

Take from that what you will.

whelan2 · 08-12-2017 10:20PM

minktrapper wrote: »

I presume the total amount of dairy cows in the country divided by the number of dairy farmers. Which will give you an average dairy farmer.

Thanks, after years in school I do know what average means.. what is the actual number of cows the average farmer has now

kevthegaff · 08-12-2017 10:21PM

whelan2 wrote:

Thanks, after years in school I do know what average means.. what is the actual number of cows the average farmer has now

90 I think, has increased quickly the last few years

Timmaay · 08-12-2017 10:32PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Thanks, after years in school I do know what average means.. what is the actual number of cows the average farmer has now

Important question to ask, could be a weighted average either, where you decide to leave out say all herds above like 1000 cows, which could hugely skew the figures and make it less representative. I'm not saying they have done this, but it is important to give a proper explanation of what is meant by average herd, so many definitions.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 08-12-2017 10:40PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

90 I think, has increased quickly the last few years

And an average age of 58+ years and projected to be 60 within the next few years.

simx · 08-12-2017 11:03PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

90 I think, has increased quickly the last few years

97 I think they quoted at the dairy conference in kk

Mooooo · 11-12-2017 11:32AM

Who long do ye keep calves on milk from cows vaccinated with rotavec? Last 4 born all heifers

Gawddawggonnit · 11-12-2017 11:50AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Who long do ye keep calves on milk from cows vaccinated with rotavec? Last 4 born all heifers

4-5 days. After that the calf must develop its own immunity.
Tried, on Whelans advice, keeping them on their mothers milk for 12 days but no different to first 4-5 days. Either way it’s a pita.

jaymla627 · 11-12-2017 11:55AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Who long do ye keep calves on milk from cows vaccinated with rotavec? Last 4 born all heifers

Leave them on it here for up to two weeks, vaccinate all cows/heifers so simply once a cow goes past 3-4 days she goes into the tank and a freshly calved cows milk goes to the calves

Mooooo · 11-12-2017 12:03PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Leave them on it here for up to two weeks, vaccinate all cows/heifers so simply once a cow goes past 3-4 days she goes into the tank and a freshly calved cows milk goes to the calves

Only 15 fresh calvers so going into tank would dilute it. Youngest one will be two weeks soon so, its only a case of throwing the dump bucket on a fresh calver for em just want to give as much protection to them. Our test has been pushed out to Jan so may put the calves on milkreplacer instead of whole milk next week when I have more cows dried.

stretch film · 11-12-2017 12:16PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Leave them on it here for up to two weeks, vaccinate all cows/heifers so simply once a cow goes past 3-4 days she goes into the tank and a freshly calved cows milk goes to the calves

That's a good policy until calving rates dip and availability to larger numbers of calves is not there.
Coincides with peak virus load also

Anyone use the transformula replacer from bonanza nutrition.
Saw a presentation on it lately.
Feed after transition milk until 2 wks old .

Mf310 · 11-12-2017 06:55PM

Anyone else notice the lack of second hand parlours on donedeal... used to be a nice few during the summer and i thought there was lots of dairy farmers upgrading their machines now so they would be selling but doesnt seem to be many at the moment

kowtow · 11-12-2017 07:20PM

Mf310 wrote: »

Anyone else notice the lack of second hand parlours on donedeal... used to be a nice few during the summer and i thought there was lots of dairy farmers upgrading their machines now so they would be selling but doesnt seem to be many at the moment

I reckon I've bought most of them.

Mooooo · 11-12-2017 07:28PM

https://m.independent.ie/business/farming/dairy/jarlsberg-expands-its-production-of-worldrenowned-cheese-in-cork-36397128.html?utm_content=bufferf1e6d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Water John · 11-12-2017 09:31PM

Yeah, we know that Jalsberg project is in the works. Planning for the waste pipeline to the sea is the main issue of contention. Very little made in the DG plant in recent years. Wish them well on it. A spread of products is good.
It must have been a slow news day for Mags.

kevthegaff · 13-12-2017 04:50PM

At the tamms safety course today, it was quite good in fairness. one or two boardsies there also

GrasstoMilk · 13-12-2017 06:47PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

At the tamms safety course today, it was quite good in fairness. one or two boardsies there also

Did mine last week. Thought it was good to

Mooooo · 13-12-2017 06:50PM

Do ye have to do that to as part of grant is it?

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