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Understanding Gay people

  • 05-12-2017 8:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭


    What do gay people think of other gay people who act all flamboyant, all camp, all Dick Emerey.

    Are gay people embarrassed by this representation?

    And what explains this behaviour?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,844 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Jesus Christ.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Depends what Camp you're in really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    bobbyss wrote: »
    What do gay people think of other gay people who act all flamboyant, all camp, all Dick Emerey.

    Are gay people embarrassed by this representation?

    And what explains this behaviour?
    Are you embarrassed by meatheads who act all tough, smashing cans on their heads and arm wrestling other dudes?

    What explains this behaviour?


  • Registered Users Posts: 216 ✭✭BurnUp78


    Why would anyone, gay or straight have a problem with someone who acts flamboyant?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭server down


    A fine group of lads, the gays.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    The camp men are the receivers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    BurnUp78 wrote: »
    Why would anyone, gay or straight have a problem with someone who acts flamboyant?

    Gay or not, overly flamboyant people are usually a pain in the arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭murphthesmurf


    BurnUp78 wrote: »
    Why would anyone, gay or straight have a problem with someone who acts flamboyant?

    Because it's really annoying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,129 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    bobbyss wrote: »
    What do gay people think of other gay people who act all flamboyant, all camp, all Dick Emerey.

    Are gay people embarrassed by this representation?

    And what explains this behaviour?

    The best thing to do is ask everyone of us. You will get thousands of different answers.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,844 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    A fine group of lads, the gays.

    I'd say it's a grand lifestyle. Sure the best craic (no pun intended) is with your mates.
    Bills can be split, dark humour x2, fights wouldn't be one sided and full of emotions.
    Granted the sex wouldn't be up my alley (Hey hoooo) but still... good on the lads


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    What do other straight people think of all the other straight people? Speaking for myself, I don't...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Ive no idea.


    But honey badgers are interesting. You should google them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    BurnUp78 wrote:
    Why would anyone, gay or straight have a problem with someone who acts flamboyant?


    Because it makes gay people lack credibility and open to ridicule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,844 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Because it makes gay people lack credibility and open to ridicule.

    Ah come here what ****e is this?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The gay men I know are the same as everyone else you would not know they were gay unless they told you.

    Its is probably a stereotype the media magnifies everything up anyway, because a story about a gay teacher who married his long term partner and lives a very ordinary life is not a very exiting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    bobbyss wrote: »
    What do gay people think of other gay people who act all flamboyant, all camp, all Dick Emerey.

    Are gay people embarrassed by this representation?

    And what explains this behaviour?

    Why not just accost a gay on the street. Have your driver pull over

    'You - yes, you, the gay there - what make you of your flamboyant bretheren?'

    What could go wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,511 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I'm was wondering what women though of their husbands chanting at foodball matches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,129 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Because it makes gay people lack credibility and open to ridicule.

    Right ok. Next time I see a flamboyant straight person I will ridicule all straight people.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Because it makes gay people lack credibility and open to ridicule.

    How? Take Trump, for example. He's a blistering idiot. Doesn't make me one simply because we share a sexuality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    bear1 wrote:
    Ah come here what ****e is this?


    You don't think that the Dick Emery characterisation of gays invites ridicule?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Wtf even is this thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    bobbyss wrote: »
    You don't think that the Dick Emery characterisation of gays invites ridicule?

    Only if Dick Emery, if one was inclined to ridicule.

    Also, there's a historical context there that you are ignoring.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,844 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    bobbyss wrote: »
    You don't think that the Dick Emery characterisation of gays invites ridicule?

    Only by a cretin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    bobbyss wrote: »
    You don't think that the Dick Emery characterisation of gays invites ridicule?

    Have you ever met an actual person that flamboyant in real life? It's a caricature.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Because it makes gay people lack credibility and open to ridicule.

    Do camp men deserve to be ridiculed more than men who adopt an uber-masculine persona, acting all gruff and monosyllabic, dropping their voices by several octaves when they're talking to their mates?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    bobbyss wrote: »
    What do gay people think of other gay people who act all flamboyant, all camp, all Dick Emerey.

    Are gay people embarrassed by this representation?

    And what explains this behaviour?

    Goin back a bit there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,264 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    bobbyss wrote: »
    What do gay people think of other gay people who act all flamboyant, all camp, all Dick Emerey.

    Are gay people embarrassed by this representation?

    And what explains this behaviour?

    Would you mind fooking off and leaving Dick Emerey out of it please. He was a raging heterosexual that shagged women till he died. Try Charles Hawtrey, Kenneth Williams etc. for your comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,129 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    bobbyss wrote: »
    You don't think that the Dick Emery characterisation of gays invites ridicule?

    Threads like this invite ridicule.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    Understanding Gay People - an emotional six part documentary where Derek Mooney and Oliver Callan travel the length of Ireland in search of answers. Soundtrack by Brian Kennedy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    BurnUp78 wrote: »
    Why would anyone, gay or straight have a problem with someone who acts flamboyant?

    What the OP knows already is that some gay men do not like being associated with or find camp men attractive.

    However, straight men wont like a particular type of woman. I'm attracted to strong women and the stereotypical airhead would hold no attraction to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Fat Femme ad Asian

    2 outta 3 aint bad, eh Kim Chi!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    He's definitely not 100 percent masculine, only about 81% He wouldn't make that video if he was 100%, someone should tell him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    mariaalice wrote:
    Its is probably a stereotype the media magnifies everything up anyway, because a story about a gay teacher who married his long term partner and lives a very ordinary life is not a very exiting.


    I think that may be well true. But when you think of a gay rights march it strikes a different tone to a trade union march for example. Which one would you say is more serious? Which one would have some of the marchers dress up in pink. And why? Aren't both marches demanding of serious consideration and worthy of respect?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    sugarman wrote: »
    What I always wondered, and what I'd like to know is... where does the "accent" come from? ...and why do a lot of gays suddenly adopt one not long after coming out?

    Have witnessed this in half a dozen mates over the years I would have known from childhood, who for years would speak have spoke as normal then all of sudden developed this soft, camp accent over night.

    Suppose its akin to the "D4" accents, would have also had friends grow up with your average Dub accent then develop a full blown D4 accent once they started going to college.

    From giving head ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    The association of campness with being gay has largely robbed women of the joy that is a well turned out, camp man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,129 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    snowflaker wrote: »
    From giving head ;)

    Do straight women have accents too?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Do straight women have accents too?

    the soft pallets? I dont know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Depends what Camp you're in really.

    Camp David.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    bobbyss wrote: »
    I think that may be well true. But when you think of a gay rights march it strikes a different tone to a trade union march for example. Which one would you say is more serious? Which one would have some of the marchers dress up in pink. And why? Aren't both marches demanding of serious consideration and worthy of respect?

    you might be over thinking this a bit, every tribe or group have their symbolism's.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    Do straight women have accents too?

    Only up to their wedding day :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker




    Fcuk the Haterz!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    sugarman wrote:
    What I always wondered, and what I'd like to know is... where does the "accent" come from? ...and why do a lot of gays suddenly adopt one not long after coming out?

    sugarman wrote:
    Have witnessed this in half a dozen mates over the years I would have known from childhood, who for years would speak have spoke as normal then all of sudden developed this soft, camp accent over night.

    sugarman wrote:
    Suppose its akin to the "D4" accents, would have also had friends grow up with your average Dub accent then develop a full blown D4 accent once they started going to college.


    This is another aspect of being gay that is interesting. I do agree with you. The gay people that I know are quite gentle and lovely people. With soft gentle accents. And I think this is quite a universal aspect to being gay. You would identify a gay person (by and large) by tone and movement.

    I don't understand where this softness comes from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    bobbyss wrote: »
    This is another aspect of being gay that is interesting. I do agree with you. The gay people that I know are quite gentle and lovely people. With soft gentle accents. And I think this is quite a universal aspect to being gay. You would identify a gay person (by and large) by tone and movement.

    I don't understand where this softness comes from.

    Semen softens the palette dear. (see earlier):pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Most of the gays I know, speak English. A few occasionally, switch to Irish and I'm f****d. Cannot understand them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    I have two friends that are gay. One is a bit camp alright but not flamboyant, bit soft spoken and the other is like a soccer encylopedia who loves his pints. The only similarities between the two is they dress smart and are male.
    Al these flamboyant, bend the wrist, speak with a list are on the telly op, e.g. a stereotype.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    bobbyss wrote: »
    What do gay people think of other gay people who act all flamboyant, all camp, all Dick Emerey.

    Are gay people embarrassed by this representation?

    And what explains this behaviour?

    Dave-megadeth-34668987-182-232.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,129 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    bobbyss wrote: »
    This is another aspect of being gay that is interesting. I do agree with you. The gay people that I know are quite gentle and lovely people. With soft gentle accents. And I think this is quite a universal aspect to being gay........


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    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    If you think all gay boys are, soft and gentle, you've never met a few of them, on the rugby field.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    bobbyss wrote: »
    I think that may be well true. But when you think of a gay rights march it strikes a different tone to a trade union march for example. Which one would you say is more serious? Which one would have some of the marchers dress up in pink. And why? Aren't both marches demanding of serious consideration and worthy of respect?

    And I thought I had my crazy turned up a notch today :pac:


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