Ciara O Doherty <3's AliExpress

retro:electro · 04-12-2017 01:07AM #1

Because I thought it deserved its own thread here where it shall remain a thread of its own and not be lost in the chaos of discussion in other threads.

Oh! And I've listed some articles below in case she gets touchy and tries to send a C&D...
The irony of those letters being her initials..

https://evoke.ie/2017/12/03/showbiz/gossip/ciara-odoherty-jennifer-wrynne-ali-express-products

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.her.ie/amp/celeb/ciara-odoherty-accused-selling-cheap-online-products-high-prices-377782

What I wish the articles stated was that Ciara was initially claiming the pieces were bespoke, and Jennifer only added the disclaimer to her website after she had been found out.

Spare a thought for Ciara though, and her poor lost voice. I'm sure she could buy something on AliExpress that'll sort her out, what with her being their customer of the year and all.

SpillingTheTea · 04-12-2017 01:13AM

Seeing as though there is solid proof and it being out in the public domain, we should be able to continue to speak on this now. Riskeye can’t get involved :L

MuffinTop86 · 04-12-2017 01:16AM

I’m so glad this didn’t go unnoticed when it was originally reported. Obviously the Mail on Sunday wanted to do their own research and would have had to wait for the orders to come from Ali Express.

It’s simply an abuse of power. Build up a following, act like you’re trustworthy and doing your job for the interest of others, then roll out the greed.
It’s exactly the same as putting money in a bucket to help a charity before finding out that the charity’s executives are on five times your salary.

Neither scenario is illegal, but it’s not right.

JJayoo · 04-12-2017 01:18AM

Have to admire her big balls for trying this sh1t

Some cnut

Yvie74 · 04-12-2017 01:24AM

So many at this malarkey. Betty & Biddy, Glitz N Pieces to name a few. Granted, they're not hiking up the prices as much as LÃ¡ Wynne and LÃ¡ O'Doherty, but still people should be aware. I wonder when will Rosie Connolly's "Aluxe" sunglasses be exposed as AliExpress's finest also?

Kuva · 04-12-2017 01:38AM

Meh, I see nothing wrong.

They should hike the prices higher if numpty's are buying.

Apple do the same thing, can't talk sense to people who buy that massively verpriced stuff.

SpillingTheTea · 04-12-2017 01:39AM

Kuva wrote: »

Meh, I see nothing wrong.

They should hike the prices higher if numpty's are buying.

Apple do the same thing, can't talk sense to people who buy that massively verpriced stuff.

The difference is, Apple create their own products so they can actually dictate the RRP.

Gal2glam · 04-12-2017 01:43AM

Are iPhones readily available from another source besides Apple? No. So it’s a completely different situation

Kuva wrote: »

Meh, I see nothing wrong.

They should hike the prices higher if numpty's are buying.

Apple do the same thing, can't talk sense to people who buy that massively verpriced stuff.

Charmeleon · 04-12-2017 01:48AM

Kuva wrote: »

Meh, I see nothing wrong.

They should hike the prices higher if numpty's are buying.

Apple do the same thing, can't talk sense to people who buy that massively verpriced stuff.

Apple spend huge amounts of money on R&D, in 2015 it was reported they had 800 employees dedicated solely to improving the iPhone camera.

retro:electro · 04-12-2017 01:54AM

Kuva wrote: »

Meh, I see nothing wrong.

They should hike the prices higher if numpty's are buying.

Apple do the same thing, can't talk sense to people who buy that massively verpriced stuff.

You're dead right. She should be charging thousands. Millions even.

Maybe then Ciara could hit the trillion dollar mark before apple? One hair clip at a time

SpillingTheTea · 04-12-2017 01:54AM

Actually also in regard to Apple having expensive phones, you actually know that you’re buying the iPhone from Apple. You know they designed & created the product and not some other place where you can buy it cheaper and that they are just buying x amount of stock and selling it at a higher price.

I don’t think the problem is spending money. It’s the lies about designing the products, and claiming as your own then selling it at 900% mark up.

wendydoll · 04-12-2017 01:57AM

The Apple post is irrelevant, I’m glad it was picked up on! She’ll weasel her way out of it but she may as well stop ordering the stuff from AliExpress! Can’t imagine many sales in the future for taylor and rose!

SpillingTheTea · 04-12-2017 02:02AM

Sure she has designer bag dupe videos on her YT and where to buy them. She uses another Asian website for them.

She literally outed herself

wendydoll · 04-12-2017 02:06AM

SpillingTheTea wrote: »

Sure she has designer bag dupe videos on her YT and where to buy them. She uses another Asian website for them.

She literally outed herself

You swear she’s the only person in Ireland with internet access and the ability to find stuff on Chinese websites!

SpillingTheTea · 04-12-2017 02:08AM

wendydoll wrote: »

SpillingTheTea wrote: »

Sure she has designer bag dupe videos on her YT and where to buy them. She uses another Asian website for them.

She literally outed herself

You swear she’s the only person in Ireland with internet access and the ability to find stuff on Chinese websites!

Yeah I know, but isn’t it funny how she’s directing her subscribers to these websites to buy.
Now acting like Asian websites are so beneath her *eyeroll*

eeguy · 04-12-2017 02:10AM

Kuva wrote: »

Meh, I see nothing wrong.

They should hike the prices higher if numpty's are buying.

Apple do the same thing, can't talk sense to people who buy that massively verpriced stuff.

Its a bit dodgy but nothing wrong with it. Sure you can buy near everything for pennies on Aliexpress, so are most retailers guilty of huge mark ups too?

99 Bortles of Beer · 04-12-2017 02:10AM

I'm disappointed that the article didn't mention anything about some of those AliExpress sellers having feedback left from a buyer with the initials C***** O D****** and an Irish flag beside their name. Coincidence, I'm sure.

SpillingTheTea · 04-12-2017 02:11AM

Also, it’s not illegal, just unethical.

idunno78 · 04-12-2017 02:13AM

Is false advertising not illegal? Didn’t she say she designed them herself! Unless she is Chinese and lives in China that’s lie!

retro:electro · 04-12-2017 03:26AM

There are a few things that irk me about this whole malarkey..

1. Ciara left an "inaccurate" article go unedited for months before she was outed for her shoddy practices and then blamed the article for misinforming everyone of their design. She got threat happy too and starting waffling on about defamation or something or other. You defamed yourself ya goon.

2. She denies conveniently lowering the prices of the pieces when she was shamed for the prices, charging €100 for things she was buying for under €10.

3. In the article I provided in the op- Ciara says "the item purchased by The Mail on Sunday is not the same item sourced by T&R"..
She has never once come out and said just where she is sourcing the products from, and if not AliExpress or another Chinese source- then where?

4. She should source some cheap gold medals for herself because I'll give her the gold in the victim olympics for this line- " an anonymous malicious online campaign designed to bring Ms O Doherty's reputation into disrepute"... Someone tell me how on earth she can say that with a straight face? She brought herself into disrepute buying cheap tat from China and passing it off as her own design and charging a fortune.

5. You can view purchase history on AliExpress and C.O.D Ireland was a buyer for a large chunk or earrings which she then was selling under the T&R branding. What a coinkydink.

But yea. I guess we are all just anonymous nasty bullies who should have just left poor Ciara and her Chinese earrings alone. I feel bad you guys. I feel real, real bad.

SpillingTheTea · 04-12-2017 12:04PM

Lol and as it’s said on Reddit, Ciara said that ‘the item that was purchased by the Mail on Sunday is not the same from T&R’, except, like a fool, she forgot that she sends a thank you note with her products and they have a picture of it *eyeroll*

GingerLily · 04-12-2017 12:11PM

SpillingTheTea wrote: »

Lol and as it’s said on Reddit, Ciara said that ‘the item that was purchased by the Mail on Sunday is not the same from T&R’, except, like a fool, she forgot that she sends a thank you note with her products and they have a picture of it *eyeroll*

A picture of what?

SpillingTheTea · 04-12-2017 12:16PM

GingerLily wrote: »

SpillingTheTea wrote: »

Lol and as it’s said on Reddit, Ciara said that ‘the item that was purchased by the Mail on Sunday is not the same from T&R’, except, like a fool, she forgot that she sends a thank you note with her products and they have a picture of it *eyeroll*

A picture of what?

In the Evoke and Mail on Sunday article, they purchased a headpiece from aliexpress identical to the T&R one and one from T&R as well. (As well as a bag from Jennifer Wrynne and the identical one from Aliexpress).

But on the her.ie article, Ciara said that the item that was purchased by the journalist who wrote the article was not the same as T&R, except she forgot that she sends a personalised written thank you note which the purchase... and they show it in the article too.

Michellenman · 04-12-2017 12:32PM

SpillingTheTea wrote: »

In the Evoke and Mail on Sunday article, they purchased a headpiece from aliexpress identical to the T&R one and one from T&R as well. (As well as a bag from Jennifer Wrynne and the identical one from Aliexpress).

But on the her.ie article, Ciara said that the item that was purchased by the journalist who wrote the article was not the same as T&R, except she forgot that she sends a personalised written thank you note which the purchase... and they show it in the article too.

I think she's saying the Ali express item isn't the same as the t&r.

SpillingTheTea · 04-12-2017 12:33PM

Michellenman wrote: »

SpillingTheTea wrote: »

In the Evoke and Mail on Sunday article, they purchased a headpiece from aliexpress identical to the T&R one and one from T&R as well. (As well as a bag from Jennifer Wrynne and the identical one from Aliexpress).

But on the her.ie article, Ciara said that the item that was purchased by the journalist who wrote the article was not the same as T&R, except she forgot that she sends a personalised written thank you note which the purchase... and they show it in the article too.

I think she's saying the Ali express item isn't the same as the t&r.

There is also a side by side picture of the two items and they are identical

Michellenman · 04-12-2017 12:37PM

SpillingTheTea wrote: »

There is also a side by side picture of the two items and they are identical

Oh yeah I 100% agree I just mean I don't think she's trying to say the t&r item in the article isn't hers! No doubt in a vain attempt at deflection from the real issue. Her leaves in the crown are at a 43 degree angle and the Ali express ones are clearly at a 46 degree angle... or something equally pitiful.

SpillingTheTea · 04-12-2017 12:41PM

Michellenman wrote: »

SpillingTheTea wrote: »

There is also a side by side picture of the two items and they are identical

Oh yeah I 100% agree I just mean I don't think she's trying to say the t&r item in the article isn't hers! No doubt in a vain attempt at deflection from the real issue. Her leaves in the crown are at a 43 degree angle and the Ali express ones are clearly at a 46 degree angle... or something equally pitiful.

Lol yeah, I know was just pointing out how she can’t hide from the fact that what she’s saying still makes no sense no matter what way she spins it haha

gossipgirl10 · 04-12-2017 12:46PM

SpillingTheTea wrote: »

There is also a side by side picture of the two items and they are identical

If it's not the same item as the Taylor and Rose one then she should have no bother coming on Instagram stories or snapchat to show her followers the differences ðŸ™„ Eh ya right...

Also the fact that we have the actual links to the listings of lots of the products she stocks that have her initials and the Irish flag in the order history. A complete coincidence...

The article should have given some credit to the boards thread and the Instagram account instead of claiming it was their investigation. It was good that they ordered the products as further proof they were the same but they would never have had the story in the first place if we hadn't discussed it here.

Some comments on the Evoke Facebook page defending them then and saying things like we shouldn't be knocking Irish businesses do they not realise that people like COD are taking business away from genuine Irish designers and businesses by importing cheap tat from China and making out that they are luxury products

retro:electro · 04-12-2017 12:53PM

Should we send the writers of the article a C&D for ripping us off?? :pac:

The fact that people are defending her as an Irish business is quite hilarious.

gossipgirl10 · 04-12-2017 12:59PM

anna080 wrote: »

Should we send the writers of the article a C&D for ripping us off?? :pac:

The fact that people are defending her as an Irish business is quite hilarious.

Why don't we let the article be out in the public domain for a few months and then contact them to get them to change the wording of it months later I'm sure we can get our legal teams to arrange that I've seen it done before

SpillingTheTea · 04-12-2017 01:05PM

Some of the comments defending them baffled me. As you say, they are literally taking business away from actual Irish handmade jewellery and accessory companies.
‘That’s how business works’... no ethics is a huge part of how business works and clearly they are being wildly unethical

Ciara O Doherty <3's AliExpress

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