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Cavanjack · 12-11-2017 10:06AM

He was probably worth €2500 to the factory that bought him so it's not worth fighting over.

Bass Reeves · 12-11-2017 10:22AM

Pidae.m wrote: »

830kg made €1940 in Ennis thurs

The odd bullock will make as much in the mart or even more if two dealers/factory buyers fall out but it would be the exception rather than the rule. In my time seeing finished bullocks going through the mart only about 20% make slaughter price and only a small percentage make more than factory price. The lads who buy directly to kill can afford to let there ego's get in the way of there business

My point to Cavanjack is that the bullock that he sold may have being as well off hanging as waitinh and chancing other routes. It all very well saying to feed them on further and not get QA if you can. But if prices are falling then letting U30 month cattle go overage or chancing them in the mart if they are nearly or fit for slaughter is stupidity

Muckit · 12-11-2017 10:57AM

Some cattle are better than others. Some factories are better than others. Some marts are better than others. Different farmer perferences.

So many factors. There's no one size fits all.

patsy_mccabe · 12-11-2017 12:05PM

Factories are underpaying for good U type cattle. These are the kind they are willing to pay that bit more for in the marts.

Duke92 · 14-11-2017 01:07PM

Sold my cattle to soon heard bullocks are making €3:90

MfMan · 14-11-2017 01:37PM

Duke92 wrote: »

Sold my cattle to soon heard bullocks are making €3:90

Where? Haven't heard that in the west where supplies still seem to be plentiful.

Duke92 · 14-11-2017 01:56PM

Heard a factory in Waterford gave it for a double of cattle yesterday

Bass Reeves · 14-11-2017 02:15PM

In the FI bullocks 3.80-3.9 with 3.85 the general run. Neighbour was offered 3.8/kg yesterday but refused to sell.

Cavanjack · 15-11-2017 07:14PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

In the FI bullocks 3.80-3.9 with 3.85 the general run. Neighbour was offered 3.8/kg yesterday but refused to sell.

Kepak giving €3.85

turfin · 19-11-2017 01:37PM

Has anyone quotes for bullocks this week?

CloughCasey1 · 19-11-2017 02:17PM

turfin wrote: »

Has anyone quotes for bullocks this week?

Few going Tuesday. 3.80.

CHOPS01 · 19-11-2017 04:31PM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Few going Tuesday. 3.80.

They the 4 lads you pictured there lately

CloughCasey1 · 19-11-2017 04:38PM

CHOPS01 wrote: »

They the 4 lads you pictured there lately

Yup. Ready for road.

CHOPS01 · 19-11-2017 04:43PM

What kinds weights you expecting

CloughCasey1 · 19-11-2017 05:50PM

CHOPS01 wrote: »

What kinds weights you expecting

379kg each hopefully!! They are 25/26mts so if not the 379 north of 400! Hopefully not gone too fat.

darragh_haven · 23-11-2017 12:07AM

Just looking on this thread from last year. €3.70 to €3.75 was base price..... we're a whole 5 cent / kg better off this year

CloughCasey1 · 23-11-2017 12:20AM

darragh_haven wrote: »

Just looking on this thread from last year. €3.70 to €3.75 was base price..... we're a whole 5 cent / kg better off this year

There was plenty of talk for 3.60/65 for this yr back then also. Lads got the numbers right but the prices are holding well considering the kill is 3-4k above the norm.

Willfarman · 23-11-2017 12:41AM

Something seems to have shifted in the way of consumption as There's no beef in storage.
There's another shake to come before year end. I have a notion that 4.00 isn't too far away.

Cavanjack · 23-11-2017 12:58AM

Willfarman wrote: »

Something seems to have shifted in the way of consumption as There's no beef in storage.
There's another shake to come before year end. I have a notion that 4.00 isn't too far away.

All they have to do is pull the price and they'll get all the cattle they want.
Store prices seem to be up on the back of the beef price rise. Wonder what way are the numbers looking like for next year?

Good loser · 23-11-2017 01:35AM

Cavanjack wrote: »

All they have to do is pull the price and they'll get all the cattle they want.
Store prices seem to be up on the back of the beef price rise. Wonder what way are the numbers looking like for next year?

That won't happen before Christmas.

White Clover · 23-11-2017 09:05AM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

There was plenty of talk for 3.60/65 for this yr back then also. Lads got the numbers right but the prices are holding well considering the kill is 3-4k above the norm.

The kill number is up but is the tonnage of beef up?? They had a sob story last week about all the extra work with the small carcasses!

Willfarman · 23-11-2017 09:13AM

You are correct Cavan jack. But they won't wobble the roulette table when they are cleaning up. We are lagging behind the French and Italian price at the minute. The Ffestin pricks are making hay and moving a ferocious volume with no storage taking place.

http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/default.aspx

Willfarman · 23-11-2017 09:23AM

White Clover wrote: »

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

There was plenty of talk for 3.60/65 for this yr back then also. Lads got the numbers right but the prices are holding well considering the kill is 3-4k above the norm.

The kill number is up but is the tonnage of beef up?? They had a sob story last week about all the extra work with the small carcasses!

No the farmers journal had an unsubstantiated bull**** story to massage suckler farmer egos. It wasn't a quote from the MII. They are doing just fine when they have control of grading machines that are cheapening the far greater tonnage of beef and they ain't complaining!

Bass Reeves · 23-11-2017 11:00AM

Cavanjack wrote: »

All they have to do is pull the price and they'll get all the cattle they want.
Store prices seem to be up on the back of the beef price rise. Wonder what way are the numbers looking like for next year?

Not really sure. Lots of lads over the last few years killing young cattle 18-20 months off grass especially heifers. These will dry up now. It will be shed cattle from now on. If we see a large kill over winter next summer will see very strong prices. However with demand I think we will see 4/kg by Christmas and a bit stronger in January. It will slip back in Februay as cattle start to come on stream again

kk.man · 23-11-2017 11:56AM

Willfarman wrote: »

You are correct Cavan jack. But they won't wobble the roulette table when they are cleaning up. We are lagging behind the French and Italian price at the minute. The Ffestin pricks are making hay and moving a ferocious volume with no storage taking place.

http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/default.aspx

Their margins are around 3% or so they say. But 3% of current volumes is monopoly money at present.

Bass Reeves · 23-11-2017 12:23PM

kk.man wrote: »

Their margins are around 3% or so they say. But 3% of current volumes is monopoly money at present.

With the way numbers are going through and chills are empty they may be operating at a fraction higher than that. As well fixed costs are down for them with extra throughput

CloughCasey1 · 24-11-2017 07:56PM

Hex suckler 26&1/2 mts 396kg r+ 4=
Hexfr all 25mts 378, 369, 363kg 0+ 3-to4-

383c base plus qa & prime bonus on all.

Happy out.

White Clover · 24-11-2017 10:37PM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Hex suckler 26&1/2 mts 396kg r+ 4=
Hexfr all 25mts 378, 369, 363kg 0+ 3-to4-

383c base plus qa & prime bonus on all.

Happy out.

Patsy said in another thread that the base price was 450c/kg in 1992. You're about €1000 worse off over the 4 bullocks than you would have been 25 years ago. Sickening isn't it.

charolais0153 · 24-11-2017 10:52PM

White Clover wrote: »

Patsy said in another thread that the base price was 450c/kg in 1992. You're about €1000 worse off over the 4 bullocks than you would have been 25 years ago. Sickening isn't it.

I bet there'd be more difference on a tonne of barley

CloughCasey1 · 24-11-2017 10:52PM

White Clover wrote: »

Patsy said in another thread that the base price was 450c/kg in 1992. You're about €1000 worse off over the 4 bullocks than you would have been 25 years ago. Sickening isn't it.

I was only 8. Tis what it is. Ya can only play the hand your dealt. We can only do the best with what we have. I could go on......they were probably dearer to buy that time. Turnover is dreaming and profit is reality. I could have as much left in my pocket as the lad killing 25yrs ago.

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