beef price tracker

marathon wrote: »

U weren’t far out averaged 1050 for both haven’t seen any receipt yet so not sure the details. Cheers

Cough cough!

marathon

Cavanjack wrote: »

Have You agreed a price with the factory or agent? They could have been fed on a bit at that age and weight but they might kill out at 50% so 300kg dead @ a base of €3.85 for a p grade You should get at most €3.55 so that leaves €1065. If You haven't agreed a price You might get less of a base.

U weren’t far out averaged 1050 for both haven’t seen any receipt yet so not sure the details. Cheers

marathon wrote: »

It’s mart weight. Not long at this game maybe I should have fed them on so

Feeding Friesians is dependent on a rising base price otherwise you are at nothing. It depends as well if there is flesh on them. If there fall into FS2= you will really suffer.

marathon

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Have you weighted them and is it mart or fresh. IMO if they are 600kgs fresh weight they may kill as low as 46/47% especially if FS is 2+/3-. If it is mart weight they may kill 49%. As well unless you negotiated the price the base cound be as low as 3.75.

950-1050 unless they fall into a P=

More than likly it would have paid to feed them until after Christmas if you base price went up. If you fed them into an O- to 650LW and they killed 49% if the base reached 4/kg they hit about 1200 euro. On good silage and a barley/soya mix the be costing about 2.2/day for 50-60 days.

It’s mart weight. Not long at this game maybe I should have fed them on so

marathon wrote: »

Sending 2 Fresian bullocks to factory tomorrow both 600 kilos both probably p rated what sort money can I expect from them they 28 months thanx in advance

Mod note:Moved from the chit chat thread, if someone here could help, please?

Thanks in advance,

Buford.

Cavanjack wrote: »

Have You agreed a price with the factory or agent? They could have been fed on a bit at that age and weight but they might kill out at 50% so 300kg dead @ a base of €3.85 for a p grade You should get at most €3.55 so that leaves €1065. If You haven't agreed a price You might get less of a base.

Have you weighted them and is it mart or fresh. IMO if they are 600kgs fresh weight they may kill as low as 46/47% especially if FS is 2+/3-. If it is mart weight they may kill 49%. As well unless you negotiated the price the base cound be as low as 3.75.

950-1050 unless they fall into a P=

More than likly it would have paid to feed them until after Christmas if you base price went up. If you fed them into an O- to 650LW and they killed 49% if the base reached 4/kg they hit about 1200 euro. On good silage and a barley/soya mix the be costing about 2.2/day for 50-60 days.

Cavanjack

marathon wrote: »

Sending 2 Fresian bullocks to factory tomorrow both 600 kilos both probably p rated what sort money can I expect from them they 28 months thanx in advance

Have You agreed a price with the factory or agent? They could have been fed on a bit at that age and weight but they might kill out at 50% so 300kg dead @ a base of €3.85 for a p grade You should get at most €3.55 so that leaves €1065. If You haven't agreed a price You might get less of a base.

marathon

Sending 2 Fresian bullocks to factory tomorrow both 600 kilos both probably p rated what sort money can I expect from them they 28 months thanx in advance

Mod note:Moved from the chit chat thread, if someone here could help, please?

Thanks in advance,

Buford.

Muckit wrote: »

You're not getting base on the fr !

Dunno boss. Only got sketchy details from agent over phone while sitting on tractor. Will know full details on Mon.

I was 12. They were great times. Purcells were buying fat cattle for export that time and the angel dust men were cock of the walk in the mart! No age limits or worries about weights. I remember a bull calf bought in 90 for 300 pounds. The first Belgian blue . Reared him as a double suck on an MRI cow with her MRI bull calf.

Muckit

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Hex suckler 26&1/2 mts 396kg r+ 4=
Hexfr all 25mts 378, 369, 363kg 0+ 3-to4-

383c base plus qa & prime bonus on all.

Happy out.

You're not getting base on the fr !

White Clover wrote: »

Patsy said in another thread that the base price was 450c/kg in 1992. You're about €1000 worse off over the 4 bullocks than you would have been 25 years ago. Sickening isn't it.

I was only 8. Tis what it is. Ya can only play the hand your dealt. We can only do the best with what we have. I could go on......they were probably dearer to buy that time. Turnover is dreaming and profit is reality. I could have as much left in my pocket as the lad killing 25yrs ago.

charolais0153

White Clover wrote: »

Patsy said in another thread that the base price was 450c/kg in 1992. You're about €1000 worse off over the 4 bullocks than you would have been 25 years ago. Sickening isn't it.

I bet there'd be more difference on a tonne of barley

White Clover

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Hex suckler 26&1/2 mts 396kg r+ 4=
Hexfr all 25mts 378, 369, 363kg 0+ 3-to4-

383c base plus qa & prime bonus on all.

Happy out.

Patsy said in another thread that the base price was 450c/kg in 1992. You're about €1000 worse off over the 4 bullocks than you would have been 25 years ago. Sickening isn't it.

Hex suckler 26&1/2 mts 396kg r+ 4=
Hexfr all 25mts 378, 369, 363kg 0+ 3-to4-

383c base plus qa & prime bonus on all.

Happy out.

kk.man wrote: »

Their margins are around 3% or so they say. But 3% of current volumes is monopoly money at present.

With the way numbers are going through and chills are empty they may be operating at a fraction higher than that. As well fixed costs are down for them with extra throughput

kk.man

Willfarman wrote: »

You are correct Cavan jack. But they won't wobble the roulette table when they are cleaning up. We are lagging behind the French and Italian price at the minute. The Ffestin pricks are making hay and moving a ferocious volume with no storage taking place.

http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/default.aspx

Their margins are around 3% or so they say. But 3% of current volumes is monopoly money at present.

Cavanjack wrote: »

All they have to do is pull the price and they'll get all the cattle they want.
Store prices seem to be up on the back of the beef price rise. Wonder what way are the numbers looking like for next year?

Not really sure. Lots of lads over the last few years killing young cattle 18-20 months off grass especially heifers. These will dry up now. It will be shed cattle from now on. If we see a large kill over winter next summer will see very strong prices. However with demand I think we will see 4/kg by Christmas and a bit stronger in January. It will slip back in Februay as cattle start to come on stream again

White Clover wrote: »

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

There was plenty of talk for 3.60/65 for this yr back then also. Lads got the numbers right but the prices are holding well considering the kill is 3-4k above the norm.

The kill number is up but is the tonnage of beef up?? They had a sob story last week about all the extra work with the small carcasses!

No the farmers journal had an unsubstantiated bull**** story to massage suckler farmer egos. It wasn't a quote from the MII. They are doing just fine when they have control of grading machines that are cheapening the far greater tonnage of beef and they ain't complaining!

You are correct Cavan jack. But they won't wobble the roulette table when they are cleaning up. We are lagging behind the French and Italian price at the minute. The Ffestin pricks are making hay and moving a ferocious volume with no storage taking place.

http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/default.aspx

White Clover

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

There was plenty of talk for 3.60/65 for this yr back then also. Lads got the numbers right but the prices are holding well considering the kill is 3-4k above the norm.

The kill number is up but is the tonnage of beef up?? They had a sob story last week about all the extra work with the small carcasses!

Good loser

Cavanjack wrote: »

All they have to do is pull the price and they'll get all the cattle they want.
Store prices seem to be up on the back of the beef price rise. Wonder what way are the numbers looking like for next year?

That won't happen before Christmas.

Cavanjack

Willfarman wrote: »

Something seems to have shifted in the way of consumption as There's no beef in storage.
There's another shake to come before year end. I have a notion that 4.00 isn't too far away.

All they have to do is pull the price and they'll get all the cattle they want.
Store prices seem to be up on the back of the beef price rise. Wonder what way are the numbers looking like for next year?

Something seems to have shifted in the way of consumption as There's no beef in storage.
There's another shake to come before year end. I have a notion that 4.00 isn't too far away.

darragh_haven wrote: »

Just looking on this thread from last year. €3.70 to €3.75 was base price..... we're a whole 5 cent / kg better off this year

There was plenty of talk for 3.60/65 for this yr back then also. Lads got the numbers right but the prices are holding well considering the kill is 3-4k above the norm.

darragh_haven

Just looking on this thread from last year. €3.70 to €3.75 was base price..... we're a whole 5 cent / kg better off this year

CHOPS01 wrote: »

What kinds weights you expecting

379kg each hopefully!! They are 25/26mts so if not the 379 north of 400! Hopefully not gone too fat.

CHOPS01

What kinds weights you expecting

CHOPS01 wrote: »

They the 4 lads you pictured there lately

Yup. Ready for road.

CHOPS01

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Few going Tuesday. 3.80.

They the 4 lads you pictured there lately