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Mayo constituency GE2020

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Ah well, we had a porn star in the Italian Parliament.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    yop wrote: »
    This will get her votes....... maybe I'm old, but is this really the way a senator from the so called upper house should perform, fun or not?

    http://www.independent.ie/videos/irish-news/watch-senator-michelle-mulherin-whips-off-shirt-in-fullon-performance-at-lipsync-battle-35584902.html#play

    I never ever ever in my life expected to be saying fair play to Michelle Mulhern but that is exactly what I thought when I saw that video.

    To be honest I would be more likely to vote for her after that. That was her being real and not giving a damn.

    Still, she has more question marks than success from her time in power behind her for me to consider her.

    With regard to the image of a statesperson, give me results and positive change every time over a respectful attire.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    voz es wrote: »
    I never ever ever in my life expected to be saying fair play to Michelle Mulhern but that is exactly what I thought when I saw that video.

    To be honest I would be more likely to vote for her after that. That was her being real and not giving a damn.

    Still, she has more question marks than success from her time in power behind her for me to consider her.

    With regard to the image of a statesperson, give me results and positive change every time over a respectful attire.

    No thats fair enough.

    Has she delivered results?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    yop wrote: »
    No thats fair enough.

    Has she delivered results?

    I think she has been a reasonably constructive representative so far.

    She had campaigned for new road into Ballina from N5 - badly wanted and much delayed.

    Hardly her fault that the powers that be shot the proposals down for various reasons - e.g. the whooper swans.

    As a county councillor she took a special interest in windpower issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,813 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Acoording to this week's Western, Aoibhinn Kenny will not be standing for the Dail this time, and her Dad will not be standing again, so that clarifies things a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Acoording to this week's Western, Aoibhinn Kenny will not be standing for the Dail this time, and her Dad will not be standing again, so that clarifies things a bit.

    Ml Ring and Michelle Mulherin will gladly carry the FG standard in next GE.

    Also Cllr O'Brien Hollymount has always polled will in LE, and will be available


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    nuac wrote: »
    Ml Ring and Michelle Mulherin will gladly carry the FG standard in next GE.

    Also Cllr O'Brien Hollymount has always polled will in LE, and will be available

    michelle is a disaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    irishgeo wrote: »
    michelle is a disaster.

    She is her own woman; speaks her mind. Does not worry too much about the mantra of political correctness.

    Wasn't elected in the last GE. Support for FG was ebbing in Mayo. FG were urging support for Enda for obvious reasons, and Michael Ring held his vote.

    Her prospects next time are better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    So Mayo goes from having the Taoiseach and Ring, to having Mulherrin and Ring. Ouch.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    nuac wrote: »
    She is her own woman; speaks her mind. Does not worry too much about the mantra of political correctness.
    Sounds like an endorsement for a female Donald Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Her ties are to Africa, not Russia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,813 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Water John wrote: »
    So Mayo goes from having the Taoiseach and Ring, to having Mulherrin and Ring. Ouch.

    No guarantee that we'll have both (although it's 95% sure we'll have at least one). Has Ring confirmed he will be standing again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Mulherrin getting mangled on the VB show. Trying to defend the Marie Whelan appointment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Water John wrote: »
    So Mayo goes from having the Taoiseach and Ring, to having Mulherrin and Ring. Ouch.

    Ring is an effective politician. Will deliver to rural Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    Water John wrote: »
    So Mayo goes from having the Taoiseach and Ring, to having Mulherrin and Ring. Ouch.

    In fairness, not sure Enda did that much for Mayo... We'd have been better with a Healy-Rae...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    MBSnr wrote: »
    In fairness, not sure Enda did that much for Mayo... We'd have been better with a Healy-Rae...

    Enda is a very nice man. but did not want to be accused of favouring his own area.

    Ring is also a nice guy, but imho will deliver to his home base regardless of bleatings from the politically correct


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Sounds like an endorsement for a female Donald Trump.

    I know Michelle for many years, both as a solicitor, Urban and County Councillor, TD, and now a Senator.

    She is neither a Trump nor a Trumpette.

    She is an able lady.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Water John wrote: »
    Mulherrin getting mangled on the VB show. Trying to defend the Marie Whelan appointment.

    As a barrister VB should know that it is a custom of the trade that a retiring AG gets first dibs on any judicial vacancy arising


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    The comparisons between Trump and Mulherin are fair. Both are able people and this is demonstrated by their ability to connect on some level with their electorate.

    The problem is that both are gaff prone and on a consistent basis. Mulherin has stuck her two feet in it time and time again. The phone calls to Africa from a Dail phone demonstrated her inexperience and how she views the system to be milked.

    The biscuit was the fornication comments and the needless hole that she dug for herself.

    I sense that she likes the TD/senator gig in Dublin where she has a second life, removed from her Mayo constituents and rural life in general. This dichotomy is unhealthy and the influx of ideas that shape her thinking with these fancy dans will further alienate her from her electoral base.

    The fact that attorney general's have been appointed in this manner in the past does not make the process right or fair. Other candidates expressed interest and at least deserved a forum to outline their approach to the role.

    The legal professions self righteousness in this regard and that they deserve a special, different process was identified as an area to be addressed by the troika. However, we are no closer to this than before.

    Its disappointing for other public servants to go through tougher recruitment processes but at least these are fairer and above board.

    We get what we vote for I guess......Mulherin will regrettably be around for a while longer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Super post Finisklin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Considering Michelle was Enda pick. She might be around the next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,813 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    According to Indo article about Enda's public speaking (non) adventures, Michelle Mulherin and Paddy Burke will be running for FG next time. Although given the former is described as 'TD' I wouldn't stake my life on its accuracy. No mention of Ring but I presume we would have heard by now if he wasn't standing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Hopefully Paddy Burke will be steadier and more assured in front of the press. I assume he has nothing to prove and is a safe pair of hands. Time will tell I guess.....

    Any word on Enda declaring his hand for presidency?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,813 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    finisklin wrote: »
    Hopefully Paddy Burke will be steadier and more assured in front of the press. I assume he has nothing to prove and is a safe pair of hands. Time will tell I guess.....

    Any word on Enda declaring his hand for presidency?

    Apparently ruled it out when picking up that honorary degree or whatever it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Apparently ruled it out when picking up that honorary degree or whatever it was.

    Saving himself for after Michael D's second term. Its probably Michael D's at this stage once he declares.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    If Ring wants to run again, I believe he will be nominated by FG and will be re-elected


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,813 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    nuac wrote: »
    If Ring wants to run again, I believe he will be nominated by FG and will be re-elected

    Almost certainly. But who, if anyone, from FG in Mayo will be joining him (I think we can rule out 3 out of 4 for FG)? I know nothing of Burke but on the surface Mulherin would seem to hold a lot of cards: former TD, higher profile, north of the county to herself...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Sounds like an endorsement for a female Donald Trump.

    Know this lady for years. I stand over my endorsement of her


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    I hear FF having election convention 19th NOV.

    Presume it will be Calleary and Chambers.

    Or without Enda will they go for a third runner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭ifeelstupid


    nuac wrote: »
    I hear FF having election convention 19th NOV.

    Presume it will be Calleary and Chambers.

    Or without Enda will they go for a third runner?

    I think Calleary and Chambers will poll well, FF might try and bring a no.3 in the hope of good transfers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,813 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    nuac wrote: »
    I hear FF having election convention 19th NOV.

    Presume it will be Calleary and Chambers.

    Or without Enda will they go for a third runner?

    I had been thinking Mayo was pretty much locked down 2 FF, 2 FG, but with both parties polling strongly nationally, they'll probably both be eyeing up a third seat. Adrian Kavanagh's latest poll analysis gives FG three in Mayo: https://adriankavanaghelections.org/2017/10/05/the-empire-strikes-back-constituency-level-analysis-of-the-irish-times-ipsos-mrbi-opinion-poll-5th-october-2017/

    But if FF run a strong third candidate and are surging across the country on the day, who knows?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Dudda


    Poor Michelle. She doesn't make it easy for herself: https://mobile.twitter.com/rnerrionstreet/status/929339225681616896?s=09


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Dudda wrote: »
    Poor Michelle. She doesn't make it easy for herself: https://mobile.twitter.com/rnerrionstreet/status/929339225681616896?s=09

    I think that legal background will militate against her. Out of touch with reality and on the ground. She will be hard pressed to retain her seat given the hits on the gaffometer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Kavanagh's final forecast for Mayo is FG 2, FF 2

    i see press reports that FG seeking a candidate from Castlebar.

    They might as well leave that vote to Ring, placing their second runner in Ballina area.

    The Blue Tide has gone out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,813 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    nuac wrote: »
    I hear FF having election convention 19th NOV.

    Presume it will be Calleary and Chambers.

    Or without Enda will they go for a third runner?

    As expected going with just C&C. http://www.mayonews.ie/news/31151-fianna-fail-out-of-the-blocks-and-on-election-footing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    I will tell you straight, Mayo FG needs to stand back and have a look at what they are doing here with Mulherne, she is just not liked. I actually admire her resilience at this stage. But that phone scandal just wont go away. Then we had ticket gate and bypasss mess.

    By F.G. refusing to face up to this and offer their core a candidate without baggage and who has a clean slate with the national media they risk alienating them selves from the people.

    If I was in FF I would be putting serous consideration into running another Female Mayo Candidate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    nuac wrote: »
    Kavanagh's final forecast for Mayo is FG 2, FF 2

    i see press reports that FG seeking a candidate from Castlebar.

    They might as well leave that vote to Ring, placing their second runner in Ballina area.

    The Blue Tide has gone out

    That appears the most likely outcome,I can't see Michelle Mulherin securing a seat,too gaffe prone.

    Hard to see where Fine Gael will find a candidate in Castlebar?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    From tonight's news FG would need to finalise its Mayo slate.

    Best option would be to run Michelle in North Mayo along with Ring


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,813 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    seligehgit wrote: »
    That appears the most likely outcome,I can't see Michelle Mulherin securing a seat,too gaffe prone.

    Hard to see where Fine Gael will find a candidate in Castlebar?

    That Indo article I quoted suggested that Senator Paddy Burke would be a candidate. Be unusual for a guy in his sixties to run for the Dail for the first time but needs must I suppose. FG's calculation may be that their chances of holding two seats are enhanced by running three candidates even if they have no realistic chance of taking a third...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,813 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Well it looks like FG have sourced a Castlebar-based candidate out of leftfield. Left-half forward to be precise. http://www.mayonews.ie/news/31209-fine-gael-and-footballer-alan-dillon-in-talks-about-surprise-general-election-bid-2

    Maybe they're thinking there's a gap for a 'strong GAA man' on the ticket in the absence of Kenny and O'Mahony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭naughto


    Well it looks like FG have sourced a Castlebar-based candidate out of leftfield. Left-half forward to be precise. http://www.mayonews.ie/news/31209-fine-gael-and-footballer-alan-dillon-in-talks-about-surprise-general-election-bid-2

    Maybe they're thinking there's a gap for a 'strong GAA man' on the ticket in the absence of Kenny and O'Mahony.

    Not a chance of that happening if the likes of Kilcoyne can’t get a dail seat
    What chance does Alan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Dudda


    naughto wrote: »
    Not a chance of that happening if the likes of Kilcoyne can’t get a dail seat
    What chance does Alan
    I’d have agreed with you before Trump became president. Now I just don’t know what’s possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,813 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    naughto wrote: »
    Not a chance of that happening if the likes of Kilcoyne can’t get a dail seat
    What chance does Alan

    If he's on the FG ticket surely he has a chance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Michael Farrington the Reannua finance spokesman is fairly active on social media these days, wonder is he planning to run again? He's come out heavily pro life as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Michael Farrington the Reannua finance spokesman is fairly active on social media these days, wonder is he planning to run again? He's come out heavily pro life as well

    Farrington got a reasonable vote on his first outing in 2016.

    AFAIK he is related to the Higgins Clan in Kiltimagh who have been active in GAA and community development for many years. Strong FG connections.

    RENUA would be stronger now if Lucinda Creighton, from neighbouring Claremorris, was still in politics. The Indo ran a vicious campaign against her. As a result she was replaced by that fragrant Kate wan. IMHO a loss to politics


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    nuac wrote: »
    Farrington got a reasonable vote on his first outing in 2016.

    AFAIK he is related to the Higgins Clan in Kiltimagh who have been active in GAA and community development for many years. Strong FG connections.

    RENUA would be stronger now if Lucinda Creighton, from neighbouring Claremorris, was still in politics. The Indo ran a vicious campaign against her. As a result she was replaced by that fragrant Kate wan. IMHO a loss to politics

    I for one am delighted to see the back of Ms. Creighton and her politics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    nuac wrote: »
    Farrington got a reasonable vote on his first outing in 2016.

    AFAIK he is related to the Higgins Clan in Kiltimagh who have been active in GAA and community development for many years. Strong FG connections.

    RENUA would be stronger now if Lucinda Creighton, from neighbouring Claremorris, was still in politics. The Indo ran a vicious campaign against her. As a result she was replaced by that fragrant Kate wan. IMHO a loss to politics

    He's a former FF man himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,433 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    naughto wrote: »
    Not a chance of that happening if the likes of Kilcoyne can’t get a dail seat
    What chance does Alan

    Johnno got elected, anything is possible. Michelle Mulherin wont be too happy though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭ifeelstupid


    I see on MWR that Patsy O'Brien is oping to throw his hat into the ring for FG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,813 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I see on MWR that Patsy O'Brien is oping to throw his hat into the ring for FG

    It's the cover story on the Western. He seems to be saying the Southeast of the county needs/deserves a TD. What next, some guy from Achill popping up saying they have to have a TD?


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