Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VIII - MOD NOTE POST #4781

1eg0a3xv7b82of · 16-11-2017 08:59PM

Five quick points
1. joe schmidt being fair is rarely at a non leinster match so he probably got the 2 farrells mixed up.
2. dave kearney is a biased decision
3. why not dillane and jimmy ryan
4. who is the porter boy
5. congrats to ruddock

Jump_In_Jack · 16-11-2017 10:15PM

connachta wrote: »

Chris have no more credentials in Ireland. He came back later than Tom. He's shown no more talent than him this season. He's picked because Munster are in form.
We probably won't see any of the Farrells when Ringrose's back, though. No need to focus on this

Aki/Henshaw/McCloskey/Ringrose are fabulous 4, that's enough. J.J will be n°5 cover in 2019, only if needed. But this one is just a bet...

That's a fair analysis, but could possibly add a bit more credit to Chris Farrell due to his performances in France, scored tries consistently, and he's the biggest centre we've ever had, probably worth giving him a shot.

Look forward to Tom Farrell building up his reputation, if he can add 5 or 6 tries before the 6 Nations he could find himself in the Irish squad.

Let's hope they all continue to improve, as competition drives performance.

bilston · 16-11-2017 10:19PM

MJohnston wrote: »

irishbucsfan wrote: »

If you look at this team in terms of who can have the biggest short-term impact on their fortunes... I'd say the 5

Ruddock can possibly cement his place in the 23 for Argentina/6Ns.
Murphy can possibly oust him.
Porter can possibly make himself a genuine bench option due to his quality around the field
Dillane can make some lost ground up on Ryan.
Conway can make himself a real option at 15 in the not entirely unlikely scenario that RK and JP are missing.

And I suppose a bad performance from Marmion/Carberry could set them back as our seemingly 2nd choice half backs.

I think Carberry is probably safe enough as 2nd choice for the foreseeable, maybe Marmion too.

There's also the flip side of this - eg. another weak McCloskey performance and I think it'll be a long, long time before we see him named in an Irish squad again.

I don't think McCloskey was weak against England. He grew into the game but a bit it seems that like Gilroy and TOH there are aspects to his game that don't sit well with Joe. This is his chance to show he has worked on those.

bilston · 16-11-2017 10:22PM

irishfan9 wrote: »

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

Big day for the Dungannon club, producing the two big centres.

Farrell from a smaller club originally.. not produced by dungannon

Clogher Valley I believe.

ClanofLams · 16-11-2017 10:30PM

Listening to the Hard Yards today, Schmidt was apparently raving about Marmion and Carbery after the SA game. Hopefully they live up to that praise this weekend. Lot of changes though, if that team can be cohesive, it will be very impressive.

Fiji have had a decent year, wouldn't surprise me if this was closer than most expect.

16-11-2017 10:50PM

ClanofLams wrote: »

Listening to the Hard Yards today, Schmidt was apparently raving about Marmion and Carbery after the SA game. Hopefully they live up to that praise this weekend. Lot of changes though, if that team can be cohesive, it will be very impressive.

Fiji have had a decent year, wouldn't surprise me if this was closer than most expect.

No... you got that wrong, he was apparently raving *with* Marmion and Carbery. They're the only two lads in the squad that are as into dance as Joe is.

Burkie1203 · 16-11-2017 10:53PM

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

That's a fair analysis, but could possibly add a bit more credit to Chris Farrell due to his performances in France, scored tries consistently, and he's the biggest centre we've ever had, probably worth giving him a shot.

Look forward to Tom Farrell building up his reputation, if he can add 5 or 6 tries before the 6 Nations he could find himself in the Irish squad.

Let's hope they all continue to improve, as competition drives performance.

Was it mentioned before that Joe was in regular contact with Chris Farrell while he was at Grenoble.

16-11-2017 10:54PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Was it mentioned before that Joe was in regular contact with Chris Farrell while he was at Grenoble.

Yeah but that was nothing to do with rugby or the Ireland squad, he was just trying to get Chris into dance.

Peregrine · 16-11-2017 10:55PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah but that was nothing to do with rugby or the Ireland squad, he was just trying to get him into dance.

He was ringing me to talk about it too. He's really into it.

16-11-2017 11:00PM

Peregrine wrote: »

He was ringing me to talk about it too. He's really into it.

irishbucsfan · 16-11-2017 11:01PM

He got into it way back listening to Terry Wogan

connachta · 16-11-2017 11:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Was it mentioned before that Joe was in regular contact with Chris Farrell while he was at Grenoble.

Yeah but that was nothing to do with rugby or the Ireland squad, he was just trying to get Chris into dance.

And he wasn't that good with Grenoble. Farrell is big. Not much more. Not much handling, steps etc. He's a decent province player, so Tom is (for now). TBH whatever they are I don't think we have to discuss the "fabulous 4" we have for midfield.
It's already gonna be hard enough for most here to accept Bundee ahead of Ringrose

(and for few others to admit Kearney is gonna be kept ahead of TOH

)

pickarooney · 16-11-2017 11:20PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnWgGrgDjA8

Burkie1203 · 16-11-2017 11:22PM

connachta wrote: »

I don't think we have to discuss the "fabulous 4" we have for midfield.
I

Ringrose, Aki, Henshaw, Marshall, McCloskey, R Scannell, C Farrell.

Its possible we see Henshaw at 15 on saturday. Aki/Ringrose in the centre in the future with Henshaw at 15.

RichieRich89 · 16-11-2017 11:36PM

Is James Ryan world class already? I'd say he is. And to think some people thought he was behind Ross Molony starting off this season.

mfceiling · 16-11-2017 11:55PM

connachta wrote: »

And he wasn't that good with Grenoble. Farrell is big. Not much more. Not much handling, steps etc.

How much of him did you watch in france? What did you think of him when he played with Ulster.
You seem to know a fair bit about him.

Burkie1203 · 16-11-2017 11:56PM

mfceiling wrote: »

How much of him did you watch in france? What did you think of him when he played with Ulster.
You seem to know a fair bit about him.

https://twitter.com/CianTracey1/status/931269220217835522

sydthebeat · 17-11-2017 12:01AM

Ireland gone from - 27 to - 23 after the team announcements.
I still think Fiji are about another 3 points of value there.

RichieRich89 · 17-11-2017 12:02AM

Farrell is a superb passer of the football. I'm interested to see what he can do in a Joe Schmidt set-up.

P.Walnuts · 17-11-2017 12:11AM

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

Five quick points
1. joe schmidt being fair is rarely at a non leinster match so he probably got the 2 farrells mixed up.
2. dave kearney is a biased decision
3. why not dillane and jimmy ryan
4. who is the porter boy
5. congrats to ruddock

If you had any insight at all to Irish rugby you'd know who Porter is

Former Former · 17-11-2017 12:24AM

I have to say I haven't been impressed by Chris Farrell really. Good in the early rounds of the Pro14, not nearly as good in the bigger games.

Tom Farrell just shouldn't be a topic for discussion on the Ireland thread.

Hastentoadd · 17-11-2017 01:50AM

what a typical stupid team selection by Joe against a poor team. you get a chance to meld players and instead you just play a second team and absolutely nothing is learnt. it would utterly wreck your head

mfceiling · 17-11-2017 07:36AM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CianTracey1/status/931269220217835522

Yeah but that's just the actual words of Chris Farrell talking about what the Irish coach Joe Schmidt told him. Connachta was actually factual with his in depth analysis.

Burkie1203 · 17-11-2017 09:05AM

Hastentoadd wrote: »

what a typical stupid team selection by Joe against a poor team. you get a chance to meld players and instead you just play a second team and absolutely nothing is learnt. it would utterly wreck your head

As a matter of interest what 15/23 do you think should have been named?

irishfan9 · 17-11-2017 09:24AM

Ireland
11. 5'11 95kg
12. 6'3 109kg
13. 6'4 110kg
14. 6'0 95kg
15. 5'11 90kg

Fiji
11. 6'5 135kg
12. 6'0 103kg
13. 6'2 121kg
14. 6'2 100kg
15. 5'10 94kg

17-11-2017 09:29AM

irishfan9 wrote: »

Ireland
11. 5'11 95kg
12. 6'3 109kg
13. 6'4 110kg
14. 6'0 95kg
15. 5'11 90kg

Fiji
11. 6'5 135kg
12. 6'0 103kg
13. 6'2 121kg
14. 6'2 100kg
15. 5'10 94kg

Dave Kearney to show Nadolo to his seats this weekend. #the_steward_returns

connachta · 17-11-2017 09:30AM

mfceiling wrote: »

connachta wrote: »

And he wasn't that good with Grenoble. Farrell is big. Not much more. Not much handling, steps etc.

How much of him did you watch in france?

3 or 4 games

Burkie1203 · 17-11-2017 09:34AM

connachta wrote: »

3 or 4 games

Farrell played 75 times for Grenoble. You saw him 3 or 4 times and have concluded a connacht player should be picked ahead of him for Ireland.

Give it up. You are just embarrassing yourself.

irishfan9 · 17-11-2017 09:36AM

Personally how a player performs abroad means little to me.. Farrell has a lot to prove at Munster, not sure he is a top level 13.

pickarooney · 17-11-2017 09:40AM

irishfan9 wrote: »

Ireland
11. 5'11 95kg
12. 6'3 109kg
13. 6'4 110kg
14. 6'0 95kg
15. 5'11 90kg

Fiji
11. 6'5 135kg
12. 6'0 103kg
13. 6'2 121kg
14. 6'2 100kg
15. 5'10 94kg

Why in the name of God do people mix and match imperial and metric like this?

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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VIII - MOD NOTE POST #4781