Coca Cola Truck Not Stopping in the City

Deiseen · 11-11-2017 11:14pm #1

So as usual, the city is being left out again.

Nothing major but I'd just like to know why? Its visiting all the cities plus others, like Kilkenny, but doesn't come to Waterford City? Its never come here if I'm right?

Just doesnt make sense seeing as though its a promotional thing and Waterford is three times the size of Kilkenny.

Also, its not a discussion about capatilism or the adverse health affects of coke!

Speak Now · 11-11-2017 11:18pm

Probably get stuck on the quay!

Deiseen · 11-11-2017 11:19pm

Speak Now wrote: »

Probably get stuck on the quay!

Parking is also too expensive!

gman2k · 11-11-2017 11:20pm

They know the other coke is a much bigger seller in Waterford

Gavlor · 11-11-2017 11:20pm

I’d imagine the money required to bring it in is being spent on winterval as a whole. Good call imo.

Deiseen · 11-11-2017 11:24pm

Gavlor wrote: »

I’d imagine the money required to bring it in is being spent on winterval as a whole. Good call imo.

Do councils pay a company to bring in a promotional tool? That doesnt sound right....

But in reality it would be a nice addition to Winterval....

deisemum · 12-11-2017 1:22am

It was here years ago, I brought my children to it, it was parked in John Roberts Square.

Waterford Blaa · 12-11-2017 8:04am

It was here before - not that impressive tbh.
It’s just a giant ad for coke on wheels.

jelutong · 12-11-2017 9:06am

Is it subject to Sugar Tax on top of Motor Tax?

Gavlor · 12-11-2017 9:44am

Deiseen wrote: »

Do councils pay a company to bring in a promotional tool? That doesnt sound right....

But in reality it would be a nice addition to Winterval....

I’d say there’s a fee for an attraction like this one. No loss to Waterford

FCIM · 12-11-2017 9:47am

Deiseen wrote: »

So as usual, the city is being left out again.

Nothing major but I'd just like to know why? Its visiting all the cities plus others, like Kilkenny, but doesn't come to Waterford City? Its never come here if I'm right?

Just doesnt make sense seeing as though its a promotional thing and Waterford is three times the size of Kilkenny.

Also, its not a discussion about capatilism or the adverse health affects of coke!

As a Cat, I have to tell you that Kilkenny is a city but, yes, it is a shame if it never visits Waterford.

alta stare · 12-11-2017 9:57am

Have seen it before and i can say it is the biggest load of sh!te i have seen. The truck is tiny and sure all it does it just sit there. I was expecting it to transform.

road_high · 12-11-2017 10:03am

Deiseen wrote: »

So as usual, the city is being left out again.

Nothing major but I'd just like to know why? Its visiting all the cities plus others, like Kilkenny, but doesn't come to Waterford City? Its never come here if I'm right?

Just doesnt make sense seeing as though its a promotional thing and Waterford is three times the size of Kilkenny.

Also, its not a discussion about capatilism or the adverse health affects of coke!

Please link me to the CSO figures that state Waterford is "three times the size of kilkenny"?
Latest figures I read it was something like 27,500 and 53,500 (incl all suburbs) respectively. These are 2016 figures.

JohnC. · 12-11-2017 11:06am

Used to see Coca-Cola trucks around all the time until they closed the place out at Newrath

Deiseen · 12-11-2017 11:24am

road_high wrote: »

Deiseen wrote: »

So as usual, the city is being left out again.

Nothing major but I'd just like to know why? Its visiting all the cities plus others, like Kilkenny, but doesn't come to Waterford City? Its never come here if I'm right?

Just doesnt make sense seeing as though its a promotional thing and Waterford is three times the size of Kilkenny.

Also, its not a discussion about capatilism or the adverse health affects of coke!

Please link me to the CSO figures that state Waterford is "three times the size of kilkenny"?
Latest figures I read it was something like 27,500 and 53,500 (incl all suburbs) respectively. These are 2016 figures.

Well ok 2/3 depending on what way you look at it, if you include Ferrybank's population of 5,217 then the city itself about 60,000 and over 70,000 if you include Tramore (10,328), which is practically a suburb of the city.

When your looking at an immediate catchment base for something, this is what you would look at.

Not really what we are talking about here is it?

TheQuietFella · 12-11-2017 2:16pm

FCIM wrote: »

As a Cat, I have to tell you that Kilkenny is a city but, yes, it is a shame if it never visits Waterford.

Maybe in your mind it is a City but in actual fact it's a hole!
A market town with little or nothing going for it.
Where the majority of its occupants travelled to other counties
to make a life and a living that Kilkenny could not provide!

listermint · 12-11-2017 2:19pm

Is this a thing!..?

If so, why

Deiseen · 12-11-2017 2:23pm

TheQuietFella wrote: »

FCIM wrote: »

As a Cat, I have to tell you that Kilkenny is a city but, yes, it is a shame if it never visits Waterford.

Maybe in your mind it is a City but in actual fact it's a hole!
A market town with little or nothing going for it.
Where the majority of its occupants travelled to other counties
to make a life and a living that Kilkenny could not provide!

Come on now, no need for that. The two lads did bring the KK/Waterford thing into it but thats a bit much.

KK is a nice place and without Waterford + Kilkenny in the South East, the region wouldn't have much pull.

irishgrover · 12-11-2017 2:44pm

This tread is gas, for all the wrong reasons.....

Sully · 12-11-2017 3:13pm

Both lovely cities. End of conversation.

Lets move on.

Cabaal · 12-11-2017 4:09pm

Waterford Blaa wrote: »

It was here before - not that impressive tbh.
It’s just a giant ad for coke on wheels.

Thats exactly what it is and people shouldn't try fool themselves that it's anything else. Personally I wish it didn't visit Kilkenny (I say that as somebody in Kilkenny).

12-11-2017 10:34pm

Waterford is a Pepsi town.

Been that way for years

lertsnim · 12-11-2017 11:07pm

Is that it? If it is then I'd say it's a good thing that it isn't coming.

alta stare · 12-11-2017 11:28pm

lertsnim wrote: »

Is that it? If it is then I'd say it's a good thing that it isn't coming.

Yeah it tries to look that good but it doesnt.

PeterCasey · 13-11-2017 12:05am

TheQuietFella wrote: »

Maybe in your mind it is a City but in actual fact it's a hole!
A market town with little or nothing going for it.
Where the majority of its occupants travelled to other counties
to make a life and a living that Kilkenny could not provide!

If Kilkenny is a hole why is it allways full with tourists I suppose its a Waterford persons way to show they have a chip on there shoulder. We don't have places like Sally park on television about there visits to see love ones in prison and how deprived they are. As regards Kilkenny people they would be more employable than a lot of Waterford people the day of the factory job is gone you should see that especially in Waterford City.

Deiseen · 13-11-2017 1:46am

PeterCasey wrote: »

TheQuietFella wrote: »

Maybe in your mind it is a City but in actual fact it's a hole!
A market town with little or nothing going for it.
Where the majority of its occupants travelled to other counties
to make a life and a living that Kilkenny could not provide!

If Kilkenny is a hole why is it allways full with tourists I suppose its a Waterford persons way to show they have a chip on there shoulder. We don't have places like Sally park on television about there visits to see love ones in prison and how deprived they are. As regards Kilkenny people they would be more employable than a lot of Waterford people the day of the factory job is gone you should see that especially in Waterford City.

Knew it would decend into this..

1. Sally park is technically in Kilkenny

2. Waterford (263,000) and Kilkenny (267,000) get same number of tourists (http://www.failteireland.ie/getattachment/c42b5249-242d-4860-b3b5-8720df101d4c/Regional-Tourism-Performance-in-2015.pdf.aspx?ext=.pdf)

3. They spend almost twice as much in Waterford (€75 million) as they do in Kilkenny (€45 million) (same link as above)

4. Waterford has almost 10 times more IDA jobs than Kilkenny (http://www.thejournal.ie/rural-jobs-2982453-Sep2016/)

fricatus · 13-11-2017 9:11am

Ah the internet... where someone posts a picture of a cat, and the comments start off "Awww cute..." but scroll down the page and the next thing it's like "you know NOTHING about Palestine!!!"

I think I'll take Winterval over the Coca-Cola truck thanks...

Deiseen · 13-11-2017 9:21am

fricatus wrote: »

Ah the internet... where someone posts a picture of a cat, and the comments start off "Awww cute..." but scroll down the page and the next thing it's like "you know NOTHING about Palestine!!!"

I think I'll take Winterval over the Coca-Cola truck thanks...

While some of our own are partly at fault, i just dont get it. Is there a county wide broadcast that goes out in Kilkenny when someone in the Waterford Forum mentions the place? It's ridiculous.

No one is saying to have the truck over Winterval but no harm in having it aswell. Everything adds to the flavour of the festival, even if it is just marketing propaganda.

Markx · 13-11-2017 9:29am

Deiseen wrote: »

Knew it would decend into this..

1. Sally park is technically in Kilkenny

2. Waterford (263,000) and Kilkenny (267,000) get same number of tourists (http://www.failteireland.ie/getattachment/c42b5249-242d-4860-b3b5-8720df101d4c/Regional-Tourism-Performance-in-2015.pdf.aspx?ext=.pdf)

3. They spend almost twice as much in Waterford (€75 million) as they do in Kilkenny (€45 million) (same link as above)

4. Waterford has almost 10 times more IDA jobs than Kilkenny (http://www.thejournal.ie/rural-jobs-2982453-Sep2016/)

You knew it would descend into this....? So you had this list ready to go.

If you knew your initial post would cause your thread to go in a direction you didn't want to, why did you make it?

Unless........

Deiseen · 13-11-2017 9:45am

Markx wrote: »

Deiseen wrote: »

Knew it would decend into this..

1. Sally park is technically in Kilkenny

2. Waterford (263,000) and Kilkenny (267,000) get same number of tourists (http://www.failteireland.ie/getattachment/c42b5249-242d-4860-b3b5-8720df101d4c/Regional-Tourism-Performance-in-2015.pdf.aspx?ext=.pdf)

3. They spend almost twice as much in Waterford (€75 million) as they do in Kilkenny (€45 million) (same link as above)

4. Waterford has almost 10 times more IDA jobs than Kilkenny (http://www.thejournal.ie/rural-jobs-2982453-Sep2016/)

You knew it would descend into this....? So you had this list ready to go.

If you knew your initial post would cause your thread to go in a direction you didn't want to, why did you make it? Unless........

Oh yeah boy, I had it all planned out with Peter what's his face above, that he would come on with that exact, badly written post and then I would jump in with the facts delivering a knock out blow! Come on will ya ffs.

I just had a feeling when i said "other places like Kilkenny" that this would happen. Probably should have known better but I guess I'd forgotten that Kilkenny lads scour this board for any mention.

And then all I did was mention facts to put Peter in his place. I haven't said anything about Kilkenny other than the fact that we should be happy to have it in the South East! So I apologise for mentioning the place and stating some facts.

Azatadine · 13-11-2017 10:11am

Hate to break it yo you but the fact is....nobody outside of Waterford or Kikenny regards EITHER as a city anyway. Could throw Limerick and Galway into it too to be honest.

Deiseen · 13-11-2017 10:22am

Cortecs wrote: »

Hate to break it yo you but the fact is....nobody outside of Waterford or Kikenny regards EITHER as a city anyway. Could throw Limerick and Galway into it too to be honest.

Sure even Cork is a large town. Dublin just about scrapes it to be honest, but in european terms its absolutely tiny.

Ireland has a small population so we have five small cities. Doesnt matter whats going on in the rest of the world, this is Ireland.

road_high · 13-11-2017 10:23am

Deiseen wrote: »

Well ok 2/3 depending on what way you look at it, if you include Ferrybank's population of 5,217 then the city itself about 60,000 and over 70,000 if you include Tramore (10,328), which is practically a suburb of the city.

When your looking at an immediate catchment base for something, this is what you would look at.

Not really what we are talking about here is it?

Oh right so you're talking about a lot of places that aren't even in Waterford city and adding them all together to get less than 3 times the pop of one place. Yes that seems logical :pac:
Ferrybank's pop is always included in the CSO Figures (read Waterford city plus suburbs in Co. Kilkenny and Co. Waterford) so they're already in the 53.500k.
On the topic itself rather than asking why Coca Cola they would "choose one over another" as I think you are assuming they are doing, ask them to visit both? I see it's stopping in both Dundalk and Drogheda which are in the same county and I think closer than KK is to Waterford.

road_high · 13-11-2017 10:25am

Cortecs wrote: »

Hate to break it yo you but the fact is....nobody outside of Waterford or Kikenny regards EITHER as a city anyway. Could throw Limerick and Galway into it too to be honest.

Anything under 100k is a large town really. City sounds more important hence the desire to be one

road_high · 13-11-2017 10:27am

TheQuietFella wrote: »

Maybe in your mind it is a City but in actual fact it's a hole!
A market town with little or nothing going for it.
Where the majority of its occupants travelled to other counties
to make a life and a living that Kilkenny could not provide!

Ah bless. The resentment is strong here

PeterCasey · 13-11-2017 10:49am

Deiseen wrote: »

Knew it would decend into this..

1. Sally park is technically in Kilkenny

2. Waterford (263,000) and Kilkenny (267,000) get same number of tourists (http://www.failteireland.ie/getattachment/c42b5249-242d-4860-b3b5-8720df101d4c/Regional-Tourism-Performance-in-2015.pdf.aspx?ext=.pdf)

3. They spend almost twice as much in Waterford (€75 million) as they do in Kilkenny (€45 million) (same link as above)

4. Waterford has almost 10 times more IDA jobs than Kilkenny (http://www.thejournal.ie/rural-jobs-2982453-Sep2016/)

It was Ballybeg that was on the television as one of the most deprived places in Ireland, as regards tourism supprising with all the seaside resorts amusements in Tramore opened all year around is that what brings up your intake. If Waterford has that much IDA jobs tell me why Waterford is unemployment blackspot .

CardBordWindow · 13-11-2017 10:50am

I went to see the Coke truck in Wexford a few years ago when it was there.
You have to queue up for over an hour to get your photo taken with it! Really not worth the hype.

road_high · 13-11-2017 10:54am

CardBordWindow wrote: »

I went to see the Coke truck in Wexford a few years ago when it was there.
You have to queue up for over an hour to get your photo taken with it! Really not worth the hype.

Exactly. Such a hype about nothing. Isn't Winterval running in Waterford at same time? I've never been but would imagine it's much better and original than a Coke truck pulled up on the side of a street :cool:

Deiseen · 13-11-2017 11:02am

road_high wrote: »

Deiseen wrote: »

Well ok 2/3 depending on what way you look at it, if you include Ferrybank's population of 5,217 then the city itself about 60,000 and over 70,000 if you include Tramore (10,328), which is practically a suburb of the city.

When your looking at an immediate catchment base for something, this is what you would look at.

Not really what we are talking about here is it?

Oh right so you're talking about a lot of places that aren't even in Waterford city and adding them all together to get less than 3 times the pop of one place. Yes that seems logical :pac:
Ferrybank's pop is always included in the CSO Figures (read Waterford city plus suburbs in Co. Kilkenny and Co. Waterford) so they're already in the 53.500k.
On the topic itself rather than asking why Coca Cola they would "choose one over another" as I think you are assuming they are doing, ask them to visit both? I see it's stopping in both Dundalk and Drogheda which are in the same county and I think closer than KK is to Waterford.

Never said they shouldn't visit Kilkenny at all. Just wondering why it doesnt stop here.

road_high · 13-11-2017 11:07am

Deiseen wrote: »

Never said they shouldn't visit Kilkenny at all. Just wondering why it doesnt stop here.

Likely simply down to scheduling? Maybe with Winterval on they can't get a suitable place to park?

Deiseen · 13-11-2017 11:10am

PeterCasey wrote: »

Deiseen wrote: »

Knew it would decend into this..

1. Sally park is technically in Kilkenny

2. Waterford (263,000) and Kilkenny (267,000) get same number of tourists (http://www.failteireland.ie/getattachment/c42b5249-242d-4860-b3b5-8720df101d4c/Regional-Tourism-Performance-in-2015.pdf.aspx?ext=.pdf)

3. They spend almost twice as much in Waterford (€75 million) as they do in Kilkenny (€45 million) (same link as above)

4. Waterford has almost 10 times more IDA jobs than Kilkenny (http://www.thejournal.ie/rural-jobs-2982453-Sep2016/)

It was Ballybeg that was on the television as one of the most deprived places in Ireland, as regards tourism supprising with all the seaside resorts amusements in Tramore opened all year around is that what brings up your intake. If Waterford has that much IDA jobs tell me why Waterford is unemployment blackspot .

Fact of the matter is Peter, you said it gets more tourists when the numbers are only 4000 more and they spend a lot less. You were proven wrong, end of.

The whole of south east has an unemployment issue, not just Waterford. As for Ballybeg, when you have a city with multiple large population centres, you are going to get unemployment black spots. Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Galway all have them. Limerick is booming yet is absolutely riddled with Black Spots, just comes with the territory of having a large population.

As for the actual reason why we have unemployment black spots, maybe it's because there's too many cats driving over the bridge to work in our pharma companies and taking all the jobs!!

NiceLynchi · 13-11-2017 11:19am

They must have their reasons

I don't think they should randomly select cities without looking at all kinds of data first...

Road-Hog · 13-11-2017 12:23pm

NiceLynchi wrote: »

They must have their reasons I don't think they should randomly select cities without looking at all kinds of data first...

I suppose since it is down to coke that santa has a red suit they feel the need to drive around the country with a 'dumb looking' red painted american artic......it's all part of their corporate strategy of brand awareness and brain washing of children into desiring their 'paint stripping' product.......as a child (9/10 years old) I remember doing the coin cleaning exercise with the coke ie. putting a copper coin 1p or 2p into a glass slightly filled with coke and in the am it would almost be shiny clean.....since that day I've hardly touched the stuff.......a cynical exercise by one of the planets largest corporations......a 'pop up' should be set up right beside the coke truck showing children the simple experiment I mention above ðŸ˜ŠðŸ˜Š along with the other negative impacts Coke and other sugar laden soft drinks have on the dental health and health in general.

road_high · 13-11-2017 12:27pm

Road-Hog wrote: »

I suppose since it is down to coke that santa has a red suit they feel the need to drive around the country with a 'dumb looking' red painted american artic......it's all part of their corporate strategy of brand awareness and brain washing of children into desiring their 'paint stripping' product.......as a child (9/10 years old) I remember doing the coin cleaning exercise with the coke ie. putting a copper coin 1p or 2p into a glass slightly filled with coke and in the am it would almost be shiny clean.....since that day I've hardly touched the stuff.......a cynical exercise by one of the planets largest corporations......a 'pop up' should be set up right beside the coke truck showing children the simple experiment I mention above &#55357;&#56842;&#55357;&#56842; along with the other negative impacts Coke and other sugar laden soft drinks have on the dental health and health in general.

You won't be going to visit it then? :P

Road-Hog · 13-11-2017 2:31pm

road_high wrote: »

You won't be going to visit it then? :P

Well it's definitely no loss.....

uck51js9zml2yt · 13-11-2017 2:38pm

Think of all the kids who have been saved from becoming fat and diabetic in Waterford and all the budding Kilkenny hurlers who won't be able to play because they will become fat and diabetic as a result of the truck.

gobo99 · 13-11-2017 3:06pm

Brings up Kilkenny in the first post, wonders why people are talking about Kilkenny...

Seeing as it's the season of goodwill, we'll let you come up and play with our truck. And if you're good we might let you honk the horn.

alta stare · 13-11-2017 7:32pm

Jesus anorher thread hijacked with petty KK v WAT..........BORING!!!!!!!

lertsnim · 13-11-2017 9:01pm

Cluster**** of a thread.

Wanderer78 · 13-11-2017 10:04pm

build the wall, build the wall!

Road-Hog · 13-11-2017 11:40pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

build the wall, build the wall!

What is so special about the effin thing?

Coca Cola Truck Not Stopping in the City

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