Luas Cross City Line (BXD)

Keyzer · 05-11-2017 09:48AM

Apparently its going live to the public on Dec 9.

mystic86 · 05-11-2017 11:51AM

Keyzer wrote: »

Apparently its going live to the public on Dec 9.

source?

tabbey · 06-11-2017 10:58PM

The training runs are being operated with 4000 class trams from the Red line.

Will there be enough 5000 class trams for a full Green line service? or will it depend on keeping these shorter trams for some time?

Jamie2k9 · 06-11-2017 11:00PM

tabbey wrote: »

The training runs are being operated with 4000 class trams from the Red line.

Will there be enough 5000 class trams for a full Green line service? or will it depend on keeping these shorter trams for some time?

A few 4000 class will operate for a few months and be gradually withdrawn by April.

bg07 · 06-11-2017 11:55PM

mystic86 wrote: »

source?

https://twitter.com/LuasCrossCity/status/927568703272742912

mystic86 · 11-11-2017 01:12AM

bg07 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/LuasCrossCity/status/927568703272742912

Cool, thanks. though the person above posted the date a day before the tweet you linked, so was just curious where he heard it at that stage.

Good news either way.

Keyzer · 15-11-2017 03:20PM

mystic86 wrote: »

Cool, thanks. though the person above posted the date a day before the tweet you linked, so was just curious where he heard it at that stage.

Good news either way.

I could tell you but I'd have to kill you.

The_Wanderer · 03-12-2017 02:20PM

With just a week to go before opening of the LUAS Cross City Extension, I headed to Dublin to get some photos before it opened. Also thanks to the generosity of Transdev management I was able to take a trip on the new extension from St. Stephens Green to Broombridge on Saturday afternoon during a timetable test. I had planned to travel on the IRRS trip two weeks previously but a family issue scuppered that plan two days before it.

This will be the final update to the LUAS Cross City Gallery. This gallery stretches back to January 2013 when I walked the City Centre route prior to construction beginning. Nearly 600 photos later the extension opens at 1400 hours on Saturday 9th December 2017.

Click http://smu.gs/2AGUflm to view the update from Saturday and if you wish the view the gallery from the start click http://smu.gs/2zIwDJc

Lennoxschips · 03-12-2017 03:04PM

Can't help but think that they should have cut and covered from Stephen's Green to Broadstone. Same with red line out to Heuston.

Luas looking more and more like a cheap fix. Shiny new trams stuck in traffic. But make great photo ops for politicians.

Now it will be difficult to upgrade to cut and cover in future, because you will have to interrupt an existing service. Better to have gotten it done properly from the start.

Stephen15 · 03-12-2017 03:14PM

Lennoxschips wrote: »

Can't help but think that they should have cut and covered from Stephen's Green to Broadstone. Same with red line out to Heuston.

Luas looking more and more like a cheap fix. Shiny new trams stuck in traffic. But make great photo ops for politicians.

Now it will be difficult to upgrade to cut and cover in future, because you will have to interrupt an existing service. Better to have gotten it done properly from the start.

No cut and cover is a cheap fix. It is an outdated system that was used to build underground systems in the 1890's. Trust me it would cost far more and cause far more disruption to build a cut and cover than a tram.

Im sorry but cut and cover has to one of the most ridiculous suggestions I have heard.

03-12-2017 03:37PM

Stephen15 wrote: »

No cut and cover is a cheap fix. It is an outdated system that was used to build underground systems in the 1890's. Trust me it would cost far more and cause far more disruption to build a cut and cover than a tram.

Im sorry but cut and cover has to one of the most ridiculous suggestions I have heard.

I disagree, cut & cover when properly implemented can minimize disruption by constructing a temporary "cap" for traffic to run on while the tramway is constructed. not really possible to do with an existing tram line in place though.

Short term thinking often leads to long term problems, On street Luas construction in the city centre being a classic example,

MayoSalmon · 03-12-2017 03:43PM

Deleted User wrote:

Short term thinking often leads to long term problems, On street Luas construction in the city centre being a classic example,

Don't really see this as a long term problem. In 40 years there will be no cars and such in the city center anyways

Stephen15 · 03-12-2017 03:56PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I disagree, cut & cover when properly implemented can minimize disruption by constructing a temporary "cap" for traffic to run on while the tramway is constructed. not really possible to do with an existing tram line in place though.

Short term thinking often leads to long term problems, On street Luas construction in the city centre being a classic example,

OK then give me an example of a successful cut and cover underground that has been built in another city in the last 50 years. Plenty of cities can implament tram systems succesfully.

If it's a underground you want built it properly with tunnel boaring machines which I would be in favour of. Cut and cover would be just another half baked solution.

PhoenixParker · 03-12-2017 04:01PM

Stephen15 wrote: »

OK then give me an example of a successful cut and cover underground that has been built in another city in the last 50 years. Plenty of cities can implament tram systems succesfully.

If it's a underground you want built it properly with tunnel boaring machines which I would be in favour of. Cut and cover would be just another half baked solution.

The decision between TBM and cut and cover is largely based on geology. It’s not chosen as a cheap fix.

Lennoxschips · 03-12-2017 11:16PM

Cut and cover is way cheaper than a bored tunnel. You're essentially building an elongated underground parking lot. It is always preferred to a bored tunnel when geology and city conditions allow. It's not some ancient technology, it is done all the time. As for successful cut and cover from the past 50 years... there are too many to name. 2 km of the Dublin Port Tunnel is actually cut an cover, for example.

bg07 · 03-12-2017 11:24PM

In the original Metro North the section in Ballymun was cut and cover.

Stephen15 · 03-12-2017 11:38PM

Ok but most of what you mentioned is short sections in suburban/residential such as MN in Ballymun and The Port Tunnel areas which would likely cause little disruption.

In a city centre it would be completely un practical as it would likely cause years of major disruption to surface transport. Also how do you suggest you cut and cover underneath the river and under overground railway lines. I'm broadly speaking in favour of Metro North but I think Luas CC is also nessecary aswell.

tabbey · 04-12-2017 11:32PM

Lennoxschips wrote: »

Cut and cover is way cheaper than a bored tunnel.

It would be if you did not have to cut up gas mains, water mains, sewers, electric and telecom cables.

tabbey · 04-12-2017 11:45PM

With five days to go until tram public service inauguration, Broombridge, broad gauge station has one side of the footbridge lift shaft under construction, on the city and Luas end of the down platform. So far work is yet to start on the up platform.

Would it not have been appropriate for someone - NTA, TFI, DoT - to notify Irish Rail some months ahead, so that IR could construct the footbridge in time for the opening.

I can just imagine a passenger alighting from the city end of an up Maynooth train,seeing no footbridge there and crossing the tracks instead of walking to the road bridge and all the way back to Luas.

GM228 · 04-12-2017 11:54PM

tabbey wrote: »

With five days to go until tram public service inauguration, Broombridge, broad gauge station has one side of the footbridge lift shaft under construction, on the city and Luas end of the down platform. So far work is yet to start on the up platform.

Would it not have been appropriate for someone - NTA, TFI, DoT - to notify Irish Rail some months ahead, so that IR could construct the footbridge in time for the opening.

I can just imagine a passenger alighting from the city end of an up Maynooth train,seeing no footbridge there and crossing the tracks instead of walking to the road bridge and all the way back to Luas.

The elevator tie in at Broombridge IS an NTA project.

Infini · 06-12-2017 12:52AM

GM228 wrote: »

The elevator tie in at Broombridge IS an NTA project.

Wonder how long it'll actually last there!

tabbey · 06-12-2017 01:01AM

Infini wrote: »

Wonder how long it'll actually last there!

To be fair, the local artwork on the platform fencing has generally survived, over a year since it was painted. I was quite surprised when I visited Monday.

PhoenixParker · 06-12-2017 06:43AM

There is work started on the up platform.
It's fenced off and when you walk past on the canal side you can see they've taken a chunk in the canal to give themselves space to work.

LeinsterDub · 06-12-2017 09:50AM

Infini wrote: »

Wonder how long it'll actually last there!

Something something canals?

The_Wanderer · 09-12-2017 10:49PM

The LUAS Cross City extension of the Green Line opens on Saturday 9th December after being offically opened by Taoiseach Leo Varadkar TD, Transport Minister Shane Ross TD and Minister for Finance & Public Expenditure and Reform Paschal Donohoe TD at a opening ceremony outside the GPO in Dublin.

The new tramline is a 5.6 km extension of the existing Green Line from Stephen's Green to Broombridge in North West Dublin via Dawson Street, College Green, O'Connell Street / Marlborough Street, Parnell Street, Broadstone, Phibsborough and Cabra serving a total of 13 new tram stops.

Pictures from the opening day have now been uploaded to http://smu.gs/2jiM1Jp

tabbey · 09-12-2017 11:45PM

The_Wanderer wrote: »

With just a week to go before opening of the LUAS Cross City Extension,
This will be the final update to the LUAS Cross City Gallery

I felt sure it would not be the last of the Wanderer's Luas Cross City photos. Devotion to duty never ends.

tabbey · 09-12-2017 11:49PM

The_Wanderer wrote: »

The LUAS Cross City extension of the Green Line opens on Saturday 9th December after being offically opened by Taoiseach Leo Varadkar TD, Transport Minister Shane Ross TD and Minister for Finance & Public Expenditure and Reform Paschal Donohoe TD at a opening ceremony outside the GPO in Dublin.

The new tramline is a 5.6 km extension of the existing Green Line from Stephen's Green to Broombridge in North West Dublin via Dawson Street, College Green, O'Connell Street / Marlborough Street, Parnell Street, Broadstone, Phibsborough and Cabra serving a total of 13 new tram stops.

Pictures from the opening day have now been uploaded to http://smu.gs/2jiM1Jp

Is that John Gormley on the far right, beside Ann Graham?

marno21 · 10-12-2017 03:43AM

tabbey wrote: »

Is that John Gormley on the far right, beside Ann Graham?

No that's Michael Nolan, head of Transport Infrastructure Ireland

The_Wanderer · 10-12-2017 10:42AM

tabbey wrote: »

I felt sure it would not be the last of the Wanderer's Luas Cross City photos. Devotion to duty never ends.

Well it was the last update to the construction gallery! The photos of the launch are in their own gallery.

From now on any photos of the LUAS Cross City line will be placed into the LUAS Green Line Gallery on the website.

Thanks for viewing.

W

Hugh Jampton · 11-12-2017 10:45AM

GM228 wrote: »

The elevator tie in at Broombridge IS an NTA project.

NTA doing its usual superb job integrating the railway with other modes then. What kind of clowns do we have running the public transport circus then?

Luas Cross City Line (BXD)

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