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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VIII - ** MOD NOTE POST #4781 **

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    #3362
    [Deleted User]
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    Buer wrote: »
    Hey look, Wilco Louw is named on the bench for SA. Got his first cap in the past month. The bloke who was strongly rumoured to be Munster's project player signing but then all went quiet and he was capped

    Nope, no conflict of interest there for Rassie Erasmus over the past few months!

    I heard it from a very reliable source Heaslip is a relative of Wilco's and talked him out of coming to Munster.


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    #3363
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    Buer wrote: »
    Hey look, Wilco Louw is named on the bench for SA. Got his first cap in the past month. The bloke who was strongly rumoured to be Munster's project player signing but then all went quiet and he was capped

    Nope, no conflict of interest there for Rassie Erasmus over the past few months!

    He probably had a hand in the Kennedy assassination too the bastard!


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    #3364
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,193 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    He probably had a hand in the Kennedy assassination too the bastard!

    Trawling the released files as we type.

    Updates to follow.


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    #3365
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,868 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I pity the Argie tighthead selected against McGrath when Schmidt has a kearney-like conversation with him.


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    #3366
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Buer wrote: »
    Hey look, Wilco Louw is named on the bench for SA. Got his first cap in the past month. The bloke who was strongly rumoured to be Munster's project player signing but then all went quiet and he was capped

    Nope, no conflict of interest there for Rassie Erasmus over the past few months!

    Buer is in one of his moods


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    #3367
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,193 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Buer is in one of his moods

    That's Mr. Buer.

    You address me by my proper title, ya little bollix.


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    #3368
    [Deleted User]
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    15 Andries Coetzee

    14 Dillyn Leyds

    13 Jesse Kriel

    12 Damian de Allende

    11 Courtnall Skosan

    10 Elton Jantjies

    9 Ross Cronje

    8 Francois Louw

    7 Pieter-Steph du Toit

    6 Siya Kolisi

    5 Lood de Jager

    4 Eben Etzebeth (captain)

    3 Coenie Oosthuizen

    2 Malcolm Marx

    1 Tendai Mtawarira

    Bench:

    16 Bongi Mbonambi

    17 Steven Kitshoff

    18 Wilco Louw

    19 Franco Mostert

    20 Uzair Cassiem

    21 Rudy Paige

    22 Handre Pollard

    23 Francois Venter


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    #3369
    Winters
    Registered Users Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    The Ireland squad v South Africa in numbers:

    21/23 Ireland capped players - Not including Aki and Sweetnam (91%)
    20/23 Ireland developed players - Not including Aki, Stander and Herring (87%)
    19/23 Players who have only ever played in Ireland - Removed Sexton (83%)
    18/23 Players born in Ireland (78%)
    10/23 Leinster developed players (43%)
    5/23 Munster developed players (22%)
    3/23 Ulster developed players (13%)
    2/23 Connacht developed players - Included Marmion although via the Exiles system (9%)


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    #3370
    connachta
    Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Utah_Saint wrote: »
    With all the Discussion on TOH, you have to wonder would would he not be better served moving to France or England and making as much money as possible.  He's clearly not gonna be Irelands starting 15 so he will always just be on his province Salary.

    I actually think if he continues playing like he is at the moment he'll get decent game time in 2018.
    It might be too late.
    I'd have asked myself : who will have the best chance for RWC based on player talents : TOH, Conway or 34 y-o Kearney? I'd have picked TOH.
    Schimdt asked himself : what is the most balanced team to win THIS game and this serie. Based on form/experience mix he is right.
    We don't really disagree (some of us at least). Just 2 different logics


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    #3371
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 37,980 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Good too see Aki getting the start and tieing him down to us (even though it was very see him get a start for the all blacks)

    Sadly had to sell my tickets cause of the soccer next Tuesday but it should be a good game and we hopefully get the win.

    I went too 2 Ireland vs South Africa games (2009 and 2014) and we won both and for the 2012 game I sold my tickets and we lost lol.

    I imagine there may be a big rush for the bars around the stadium after the game for those waiting to catch kick off for the soccer. Could they not put it on the big screen in the stadium???


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    #3372
    Neil3030
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Good too see Aki getting the start and tieing him down to us (even though it was very see him get a start for the all blacks)

    Sadly had to sell my tickets cause of the soccer next Tuesday but it should be a good game and we hopefully get the win.

    I went too 2 Ireland vs South Africa games (2009 and 2014) and we won both and for the 2012 game I sold my tickets and we lost lol.

    I imagine there may be a big rush for the bars around the stadium after the game for those waiting to catch kick off for the soccer. Could they not put it on the big screen in the stadium???

    It's a rugby crowd, darling. Do you want everyone fleeing for the exits in terror?!


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    #3373
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,972 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    connachta wrote: »
    It might be too late.
    I'd have asked myself : who will have the best chance for RWC based on player talents : TOH, Conway or 34 y-o Kearney? I'd have picked TOH.
    Schimdt asked himself : what is the most balanced team to win THIS game and this serie. Based on form/experience mix he is right.
    We don't really disagree (some of us at least). Just 2 different logics

    Mate. Your obsession with this is reaching bunny-boiler levels :D


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    #3374
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,610 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    7/8 players in our starting pack have been part of the lions squad, that has to be some sort of record.


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    #3375
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Winters wrote: »
    The Ireland squad v South Africa in numbers:

    21/23 Ireland capped players - Not including Aki and Sweetnam (91%)
    20/23 Ireland developed players - Not including Aki, Stander and Herring (87%)
    19/23 Players who have only ever played in Ireland - Removed Sexton (83%)
    18/23 Players born in Ireland (78%)
    10/23 Leinster developed players (43%)
    5/23 Munster developed players (22%)
    3/23 Ulster developed players (13%)
    2/23 Connacht developed players - Included Marmion although via the Exiles system (9%)
    Interesting split.
    Most who were educated in Ireland from the "traditional" sources of players - fee paying rugby schools in Leinster, grammar schools in Ulster, fee paying schools in Cork. And those not educated in Ireland nearly all went to fee paying rugby schools.


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    #3376
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,215 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    connachta wrote: »
    It might be too late.
    I'd have asked myself : who will have the best chance for RWC based on player talents : TOH, Conway or 34 y-o Kearney? I'd have picked TOH.
    Schimdt asked himself : what is the most balanced team to win THIS game and this serie. Based on form/experience mix he is right.
    We don't really disagree (some of us at least). Just 2 different logics

    Or... Just as an alternative.... Try to imagine....

    Joe sees an established winger become unavailable and the other injured, so he looks at new options... Naming two wingers with the grand total of ONE cap between them... With the bench cover also being a debutant.

    So....faced with such inexperience in the back field.. You want him to go and name a guy who has been around the squad for 5 years and has amassed a huge 6 caps in that period.

    Against the boks....

    Yep... Against the boks....


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    #3377
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Or... Just as an alternative.... Try to imagine....

    Joe sees an established winger become unavailable and the other injured, so he looks at new options... Naming two wingers with the grand total of ONE cap between them... With the bench cover also being a debutant.

    So....faced with such inexperience in the back field.. You want him to go and name a guy who has been around the squad for 5 years and has amassed a huge 6 caps in that period.

    Against the boks....

    Yep... Against the boks....

    Its the sensible move from Joe - we have some serious wing prospects, so bring them into the fold while Bobster is still there. Hopefully a fullback prospect for World Cup fullback turns up over the next couple of years who will then be able to replace him while the rest of the 3/4 line is well establish around him.


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    #3378
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Listening to Game On. So many texts about Zebo and TOH on a day when Stockdale, Conway and Sweetnam are all named.

    It's just never enough for some people.


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    #3379
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    Former Former wrote: »
    Listening to Game On. So many texts about Zebo and TOH on a day when Stockdale, Conway and Sweetnam are all named.

    It's just never enough for some people.

    And not a word about poor auld SuperDave
    #JusticeForDave


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    #3380
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,240 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    connachta wrote: »
    It might be too late.
    I'd have asked myself : who will have the best chance for RWC based on player talents : TOH, Conway or 34 y-o Kearney? I'd have picked TOH.
    Schimdt asked himself : what is the most balanced team to win THIS game and this serie. Based on form/experience mix he is right.
    We don't really disagree (some of us at least). Just 2 different logics

    Ask yourself this.

    1. Why has TOH failed to make he necessary impression in camp to such an extent he was dropped altogether

    2. Aki, Stockdale and Conway have 3 caps between them. Carbery and Sweetnam on the bench have 4 between them. So yes this is a selection with 2019 in mind surely?

    3. Your using Kearneys age against him being picked but your constantly advocating McCartney who is older being picked ahead of 27 year old (Herring). Why is Kearneys age a problem for you but not McCartney's?


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    #3381
    Stheno
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    Erik Shin wrote: »
    And not a word about poor auld SuperDave
    #poorDavetooprettyforthesquad

    Fyp


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    #3382
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    And not a word about poor auld SuperDave
    #JusticeForDave

    SuperDave has seen off better players than these latest pretenders to the throne.

    He's not worried and neither am I. Let them have their moment.


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    #3383
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Former Former wrote: »
    Listening to Game On. So many texts about Zebo and TOH on a day when Stockdale, Conway and Sweetnam are all named.

    It's just never enough for some people.

    Ah its embarrasing. So many young lads getting a go and social media are just ****eing on about Rob Kearney.

    A lot of miserable people out there.


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    #3384
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,240 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Ah its embarrasing. So many young lads getting a go and social media are just ****eing on about Rob Kearney.

    A lot of miserable people out there.

    Herring, Ryan, Stockdale, Aki, Conway, Sweetnam, Carbery all in a squad but Joe wont plan for rwc apparently.

    A lot of people see the pro12/14 and just assume how player plays there will just translate to the national team.


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    #3385
    Hype710
    Registered Users Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭Hype710


    Stockdale to cover centre?


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    #3386
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 17,035 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Former Former wrote: »
    Listening to Game On. So many texts about Zebo and TOH on a day when Stockdale, Conway and Sweetnam are all named.

    It's just never enough for some people.

    Rugby - one of few sports in which Ireland can really compete internationally, while simultaneously the sport that's probably the least understood (even by those who regularly watch it).

    This combination of factors brings the wall-chewing fucksheen out of the masses, like no other sport.


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    #3387
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Rugby - one of few sports in which Ireland can really compete internationally, while simultaneously the sport that's probably the least understood (even by those who regularly watch it).

    This combination of factors brings the wall-chewing fucksheen out of the masses, like no other sport.

    I'm a wall-chewing fucksheen am I???

    And they say rugby is elitist...


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    #3388
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 17,035 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    snowflaker wrote: »
    I'm a wall-chewing fuckseen am I???

    And they say rugby is elitist...

    *fucksheen


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    #3389
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Good too see Aki getting the start and tieing him down to us (even though it was very see him get a start for the all blacks)

    Sadly had to sell my tickets cause of the soccer next Tuesday but it should be a good game and we hopefully get the win.

    I went too 2 Ireland vs South Africa games (2009 and 2014) and we won both and for the 2012 game I sold my tickets and we lost lol.

    I imagine there may be a big rush for the bars around the stadium after the game for those waiting to catch kick off for the soccer. Could they not put it on the big screen in the stadium???

    The only big rush I'll have is to Searsons for a hot jameson!


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    #3390
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Hype710 wrote: »
    Stockdale to cover centre?

    Nah. Reckon Joe saw my posts here about trying Carbery at 12 and thought "this dude is on to something".


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    #3391
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    *fucksheen

    sorry I misspelled your made up word! We don't pronounce our H's!


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