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Are we over the annual poppy thread?

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  • #932
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,397 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    There was none of this poppy madness 15 or 20 years ago. I would say if you go back in time and walk down any UK city Street or watch TV of the time, there would be a severe lack.of poppies about.

    It has definitely been ratcheted up in the last decade or so.

    Whoever is marketing it is doing a great job.

    But they need to take a look at that 5ft poppy the 2 soldiers carried on to the pitch in the photo above. Christ it's cringe worthy.


  • #933
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    I do indeed

    Barstool republican 101

    Sure ain't we all, that's how stuff gets done around here

    Take it any day over ex BA...:D


  • #934
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You won't be cheering then if he scores the goal that sends us to the world cup next year?

    Do they wear poppies in Russia...?


  • #935
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    I'd say he is more likely to get sent off than score a winning goal. He should do as he was advised by the former vice-president of Fifa and keep his political opinions to himself.


  • #936
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    The reason he is so unpopular with the fans is nothing to do with other things?

    The former vice-president of Fifa warned controversial footballer James McClean that the time has come to stop mixing sport and politics. Why?

    McLean for example has posed for a picture alongside former IRA commander Martin McGuinness, and McClean often whinges that Northern Ireland and the Republic should come together.

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/jim-boyce-tells-james-mcclean-keep-your-political-views-out-of-football-31445363.html

    And then McClean whinges that he is unpopular in England. If he goes there, and gets paid big money in front of English fans, he should remember many of them lost loved ones in the 2 world wars.
    Always posing with riff raff was McG
    queen-and-martin-mcguinness.jpg


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  • #937
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    not yet wrote: »
    Do they wear poppies in Russia...?

    They condemned the PIRA who bombed the Poppy ceremony in Enniskillen, if thats of any use. Then again, most of the world did.


  • #938
    kingchess
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭kingchess


    not yet wrote: »
    Do they wear poppies in Russia...?

    May 9th is their day so expect the usual poppy wearing crowd to be wearing little Russian flags to honour those fallen soldiers.:cool:


  • #939
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Always poising with riff raff was McG
    but not endorsing his political opinions. Huge difference.


  • #940
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    but not endorsing his political opinions. Huge difference.

    How do you know? The British always switch sides when it is expedient.


  • #941
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    maryishere wrote: »
    The reason he is so unpopular with the fans is nothing to do with other things?

    The former vice-president of Fifa warned controversial footballer James McClean that the time has come to stop mixing sport and politics. Why?

    McLean for example has posed for a picture alongside former IRA commander Martin McGuinness, and McClean often whinges that Northern Ireland and the Republic should come together.

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/jim-boyce-tells-james-mcclean-keep-your-political-views-out-of-football-31445363.html

    And then McClean whinges that he is unpopular in England. If he goes there, and gets paid big money in front of English fans, he should remember many of them lost loved ones in the 2 world wars.

    Maybe if politics had been kept out of football in the first place then McCleans views would never have come up

    Deputy first minister McGuinness?

    When has he whinged he is unpopular? Did you even read your own link? The rebuttal to your last paragraph is written there. Not to mention he has specifically said his objections are nothing to do with the two world wars.


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  • #942
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    maryishere wrote: »
    They condemned the PIRA who bombed the Poppy ceremony in Enniskillen, if thats of any use. Then again, most of the world did.

    I'll have you know a 30min warning was given that day, which was ignored by Army intelligence and only given with minutes to go as was almost every warning before and after. Innocent people in Derry were not afforded the same warnings.


  • #943
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    maryishere wrote: »
    I'd say he is more likely to get sent off than score a winning goal. He should do as he was advised by the former vice-president of Fifa and keep his political opinions to himself.

    So now you are against freedom of expression. Great.....


  • #944
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    How do you know?
    The Queen is above commenting publically on politics.

    On the other hand McLean publically endorsed Republican views on a united Ireland etc


  • #945
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    The Queen is above commenting publically on politics.

    On the other hand McLean publically endorsed Republican views on a united Ireland etc

    So did Leo and Enda


  • #946
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Maybe if politics had been kept out of football in the first place then McCleans views would never have come up
    Maybe if and whataboutery. Many in the UK would say that respecting the fallen of 2 world wars is above politics, and you get nearly everyone from all political beliefs, backgrounds, creeds, social classes etc agreeing on one thing.

    What do you think of the former vice-president of Fifa warning "controversial footballer" James McClean that the time has come to stop mixing sport and politics?


  • #947
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    So did Leo and Enda

    They are politicans - that is if you are referring to the same Leo that wore a Poppy earlier today, albeit a green poppy. They do not play football in front of an English audience.


  • #948
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    Maybe if and whataboutery. Many in the UK would say that respecting the fallen of 2 world wars is above politics, and you get nearly everyone from all political beliefs, backgrounds, creeds, social classes etc agreeing on one thing.

    What do you think of the former vice-president of Fifa warning "controversial footballer" James McClean that the time has come to stop mixing sport and politics?

    Sorry Mary,

    The RBL asking people to 'Wear your poppy to show your support for our Armed Forces past and present' is political all day long.


  • #949
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


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    maryishere wrote: »
    They are politicans - that is if you are referring to the same Leo that wore a Poppy earlier today, albeit a green poppy. They do not play football in front of an English audience.

    Did he say it while playing?
    He is entitled to his view, a perfectly legal and legitimate view.


  • #950
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    People can wear it for whatever reason they want to. I suspect a lot would wear it or support the charity a little financially out of respect for the memory of a grand-uncle or whatever.


  • #951
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    maryishere wrote: »
    Maybe if and whataboutery. Many in the UK would say that respecting the fallen of 2 world wars is above politics, and you get nearly everyone from all political beliefs, backgrounds, creeds, social classes etc agreeing on one thing.

    What do you think of the former vice-president of Fifa warning "controversial footballer" James McClean that the time has come to stop mixing sport and politics?

    Sowing poppies into football shirts is the very essence of it. (Thankfully Celtic didn't do it this year).


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  • #952
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    People can wear it for whatever reason they want to. I suspect a lot would wear it or support the charity a little financially out of respect for the memory of a grand-uncle or whatever.

    They stick a label with their reasons on below?

    You are giving your money to the RBL and therefore endorse the product.


  • #953
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    not yet wrote: »
    I'll have you know a 30min warning was given that day

    No it was not. The intention of the bomb was to kill, just like many other PIRA bombs.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day_bombing


  • #954
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Ah The english , as far up there own arse as ever. back in 38 they thought it a good idea for the national football team to perform the nazi salute.


  • #955
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    You are giving your money to the RBL and therefore endorse the product.
    People are entitled to support whatever charity they want. Few would want to support those who planted terrorist bombs.


  • #956
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    Ah The english , as far up there own arse as ever. back in 38 they thought it a good idea for the national football team to perform the nazi salute.

    In Berlin they done that. When in Rome.....
    Appeasment and the democratic route did not work with Hitler, thank goodness someone stood up to him a year and a half later.


  • #957
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    People are entitled to support whatever charity they want. Few would want to support those who planted terrorist bombs.

    Yes they are, and you are equally entitled not to give a 'voluntary' contribution.


  • #958
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    maryishere wrote: »
    People are entitled to support whatever charity they want. Few would want to support those who planted terrorist bombs.

    One man's terrorist and all that..

    One man's British Army, another man's cnut.


  • #959
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Sowing poppies into football shirts is the very essence of it. (Thankfully Celtic didn't do it this year).

    Relatives of at least five Celtic players who died in WW1 are offended that none of the current players or management team now wear poppies to honour the sacrifice of such celtic players.


  • #960
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    We insist you voluntarily wear the poppy. Lols.


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  • #961
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    Relatives of at least five Celtic players who died in WW1 are offended that none of the current players or management team now wear poppies to honour the sacrifice of such celtic players.

    Lot of boys around here don't allow you to be 'offended'. I'm sure they'll be along in a minute. :D


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