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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 314 ✭✭Walter Mittys Brother


    Probably wasn't long ago the new regime were considered the **** stirrers.

    Regime change is always tough. Let's hope it doesn't turn into a rerun of "Animal Farm" by Orwell or what we're seeing in other threads with other shooting associations.

    Dictatorship as a political system is a great thing ............... once you agree with the dictator. The problems start when you don't ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Resistance is futile


    Probably wasn't long ago the new regime were considered the **** stirrers.

    Regime change is always tough. Let's hope it doesn't turn into a rerun of "Animal Farm" by Orwell or what we're seeing in other threads with other shooting associations.

    Dictatorship as a political system is a great thing ............... once you agree with the dictator. The problems start when you don't ;)

    I think we need a Anchorman moment in a back alley somewhere with no weapons .
    Seriously though a line needs to be drawn through the past and proceed without those who wish the organization harm . Call them out of order when need be . And if they have a mind to do so let them proceed to the courts but without indemnification and at their own costs . To my mind what's coming from certain parties don't have the best intentions of their members in mind or their members are oblivious to what's being done in their name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 678 ✭✭✭wirehairmax


    Probably wasn't long ago the new regime were considered the **** stirrers.

    Regime change is always tough. Let's hope it doesn't turn into a rerun of "Animal Farm" by Orwell or what we're seeing in other threads with other shooting associations.

    Dictatorship as a political system is a great thing ............... once you agree with the dictator. The problems start when you don't ;)
    The dictator has been ousted, we are now in a democracy, the days of being threatened if you disagree with the dictator and his cronies are thankfully over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Perfectstorm


    Change was so long overdue. No one could dispute that.

    What is needed now is someone with sufficient balls to call a halt ,to try and get people around a table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    Change was so long overdue. No one could dispute that.

    What is needed now is someone with sufficient balls to call a halt ,to try and get people around a table.

    Everybody is at the table the association is moving on. There are important issues that need attention that will impact on the shooter on the ground.
    That said If I had to sit at a table with some of those guys I would have a baseball bat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Perfectstorm


    grassroot1 wrote: »
    That said If I had to sit at a table with some of those guys I would have a baseball bat.



    Any wonder the row doesn't end with that approach. .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 678 ✭✭✭wirehairmax


    grassroot1 wrote: »
    Everybody is at the table the association is moving on. There are important issues that need attention that will impact on the shooter on the ground.
    That said If I had to sit at a table with some of those guys I would have a baseball bat.
    Always handy at these meetings for smashing secret recording equipment being used under the table


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    grassroot1 wrote: »
    Everybody is at the table the association is moving on. There are important issues that need attention that will impact on the shooter on the ground.
    That said If I had to sit at a table with some of those guys I would have a baseball bat.

    A lesson learned through bitter experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Perfectstorm


    Always handy at these meetings for smashing secret recording equipment being used under the table

    Fair point..and neater than a 12g


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Backbarrel


    Heard that a delegation from National Exec did a meet and greet/ ask me anything session in Galway on Friday night.

    Was anyone at it, how did that go?

    I know there are a few more counties wanting to bring them in for a talk too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,251 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Fair point..and neater than a 12g


    1be395bb62446bf1_negan.JPGIs this guy now on the NARGC comittee?:D If so,would you ask him to go have a word with the HCAP IDMF shower?

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Perfectstorm


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    1be395bb62446bf1_negan.JPGIs this guy now on the NARGC comittee?:D If so,would you ask him to go have a word with the HCAP IDMF shower?

    I would but he is back inside for behaviour likely to lead to breach of the peace...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    1be395bb62446bf1_negan.JPGIs this guy now on the NARGC comittee?:D If so,would you ask him to go have a word with the HCAP IDMF shower?

    I would but he is back inside for behaviour likely to lead to breach of the peace...

    No he's not he is my hero he is still fighting the fight against zombies, you know soulless creatures that are dead but don't realise it and keep coming back to try get you and each time they raise their heads you have to keep smacking them down, and even after you cut their arm or head off they still try and come at you, slinking of into the darkness to plan more mischief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Resistance is futile


    No he's not he is my hero he is still fighting the fight against zombies, you know soulless creatures that are dead but don't realise it and keep coming back to try get you and each time they raise their heads you have to keep smacking them down, and even after you cut their arm or head off they still try and come at you, slinking of into the darkness to plan more mischief.



    Now this is just silly comparing what's going on inside the organization and the actions of Negan being compared to the new executive this is plain insulting and untrue. It's obvious to everyone who has eyes that Negan represents the previous and past administration all swearing blind loyalty to a brutal regime and willing to lay down and die for his selfish destructive behavior, locked inside his compound and his walls protected by his mindless bullying minions and soulless Zombies . On the other side of this Titanic battle you have a coming together of different settlements from around the country who were willing to live in peace but finally got pushed too far . Who represents The King, Jesus
    and Rick I'll leave up to you but I'd love to be Daryl and we all know who Negan is and like Rick we have had our fair share of moles and turncoats. I can hear them shouting in certain counties I AM DEGAN


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭berettaman


    Now this is just silly comparing what's going on inside the organization and the actions of Negan being compared to the new executive this is plain insulting and untrue. It's obvious to everyone who has eyes that Negan represents the previous and past administration all swearing blind loyalty to a brutal regime and willing to lay down and die for his selfish destructive behavior, locked inside his compound and his walls protected by his mindless bullying minions and soulless Zombies . On the other side of this Titanic battle you have a coming together of different settlements from around the country who were willing to live in peace but finally got pushed too far . Who represents The King, Jesus
    and Rick I'll leave up to you but I'd love to be Daryl and we all know who Negan is and like Rick we have had our fair share of moles and turncoats. I can hear them shouting in certain counties I AM DEGAN


    Deep man, very deep..


    It reminds me of the end of Pulp Fiction with the argument over the meaning of the parable...Samuel L Jackson..."No Ringo.. You are the weak..and I am the tyranny of evil men.."


    Anyway, fair play to perfect storm.. can I get Lucille with a NARGC logo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Perfectstorm


    Now this is just silly comparing what's going on inside the organization and the actions of Negan being compared to the new executive this is plain insulting and untrue. It's obvious to everyone who has eyes that Negan represents the previous and past administration all swearing blind loyalty to a brutal regime and willing to lay down and die for his selfish destructive behavior, locked inside his compound and his walls protected by his mindless bullying minions and soulless Zombies .

    No closed season zombies either...time to take the grinder to the o/u


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    Backbarrel wrote: »
    Heard that a delegation from National Exec did a meet and greet/ ask me anything session in Galway on Friday night.

    Was anyone at it, how did that go?

    I know there are a few more counties wanting to bring them in for a talk too.

    There was a meeting in Kildare last night called by some clubs How did it go?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Backbarrel


    It has been ever so quiet...Heard today that Mayo or Roscommon have invited the some of the Exec out to have a meet and greet.

    Could be wrong about the counties, but I believe a few counties are loking for a visit.

    I will be recomending my countiy do the same at the next meeting..can do no harm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    Backbarrel wrote: »
    Heard that a delegation from National Exec did a meet and greet/ ask me anything session in Galway on Friday night.

    Was anyone at it, how did that go?

    I know there are a few more counties wanting to bring them in for a talk too.

    There was a meeting in Kildare last night called by some clubs How did it go?
    Is there any truth as to the uproar at a Kildale RGC meeting during the week. There is a lad I work with said his brother reckons there will be an egm to replace the executive. 3 of them walked out to shouts/heckles and retort in threats of suing some who dared question them. God be with the days when you can have a good ****ing row without ever worrying about being sued.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭gunny123


    Is there any truth as to the uproar at a Kildale RGC meeting during the week. There is a lad I work with said his brother reckons there will be an egm to replace the executive. 3 of them walked out to shouts/heckles and retort in threats of suing some who dared question them. God be with the days when you can have a good ****ing row without ever worrying about being sued.

    Nothing wrong with a good row, it clears the air and gets everything out in the open.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    gunny123 wrote: »
    Is there any truth as to the uproar at a Kildale RGC meeting during the week. There is a lad I work with said his brother reckons there will be an egm to replace the executive. 3 of them walked out to shouts/heckles and retort in threats of suing some who dared question them. God be with the days when you can have a good ****ing row without ever worrying about being sued.

    Nothing wrong with a good row, it clears the air and gets everything out in the open.
    Have to agree. Problem is someone always feel slighted and feel the need to defend themselves in the courts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Perfectstorm


    Have to agree. Problem is someone always feel slighted and feel the need to defend themselves in the courts.



    Snowflakes...god be with the days people had the back bone to call ya a pr&@k and take the response in the same vain...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭MrTom1


    Heard Kildare RGC top table all walked out but 1 and she sat there dumbfounded 😂 apparently the top table aren’t fans of the NARGC so they are trying to sway everyone to the other side . Who knows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    The latest I heard is that the Kildare Clubs are fed up being fed Bull****. That every time there was a meeting the NARGC were a shower of ****, that it was all falling apart etc etc. The top table were pushing for Kildare to leave the NARGC and go elsewhere. It looks like the Club's have stood up to them and more power. Not sure if it's true but the lads that left the meeting has threatened legal if there is an egm to get rid of them (sounds familiar).....what a shower of ****.

    From what I hear Dublin RGC and Kilkenny are threatening the same Laois have gone quiet. Some on the Offally top table were told to get back in their box by others......so all in all we will have an interesting 2018.......to coin a border expression " the war is not over"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭berettaman


    Sometimes the issue is that there are people involved with the various RGCs for many years (20 years+) and have done a lot of good work for the Association.

    These guys are embedded and used to a certain status quo. Over the last 3 years or so that has all changed. Now the thing is you can only sit at the top table so long and say that the current regime are a bunch of wasters and they are making a balls of things.

    The problem you have is that 23/4 RGCs out of 28 are backing the current Executive and Chairman and they are delivering or trying very hard to deliver.

    What is happening now is that some of the counties that were harsh critics are adopting a wait and see approach and going into neutral mode.

    Maybe the current exec are not as black as painted by some people in some of those RGCs.

    Not so much that the war is over more like " they are not complete to$$ers"

    For some that yearn for the old days the war will never be over but you know what? We are never going back to what it was .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Perfectstorm


    berettaman wrote: »
    Sometimes the issue is that there are people involved with the various RGCs for many years (20 years+) and have done a lot of good work for the Association.

    These guys are embedded and used to a certain status quo. Over the last 3 years or so that has all changed. Now the thing is you can only sit at the top table so long and say that the current regime are a bunch of wasters and they are making a balls of things.

    The problem you have is that 23/4 RGCs out of 28 are backing the current Executive and Chairman and they are delivering or trying very hard to deliver.

    What is happening now is that some of the counties that were harsh critics are adopting a wait and see approach and going into neutral mode.

    Maybe the current exec are not as black as painted by some people in some of those RGCs.

    Not so much that the war is over more like " they are not complete to$$ers"

    For some that yearn for the old days the war will never be over but you know what? We are never going back to what it was .



    I was given to understand, recently, that the issue us not so much with the exec as it is with the entire gb.

    Nothing to do with old days more a gb that follows the pier piper of the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 678 ✭✭✭wirehairmax


    I was given to understand, recently, that the issue us not so much with the exec as it is with the entire gb.

    Nothing to do with old days more a gb that follows the pier piper of the day.

    You know damn well the old pied piper is still whistling and his rats are still blindly following his tune, too stupid to realize they’re being used as pawns in a vengeful spiteful campaign to disrupt and intimidate the current NARGC executive in carrying out their duties which is promoting hunting and shooting, not fighting spurious legal battles.
    Anyone that cares about shooting and hunting wants all this legal crap to end but these clowns in Kildare, the ****stirrer in Dublin and a few more dotted around the country can’t let it go for whatever reason or whatever they’ve been promised.
    I hope the nargc community in Kildare stand their ground and don’t let cowardly threats of legal action deter them from effecting change and getting rid of the people who are dragging the association through the mud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Perfectstorm


    You know damn well the old pied piper is still whistling and his rats are still blindly following his tune, too stupid to realize they’re being used as pawns in a vengeful spiteful campaign to disrupt and intimidate the current NARGC executive in carrying out their duties which is promoting hunting and shooting, not fighting spurious legal battles.
    Anyone that cares about shooting and hunting wants all this legal crap to end but these clowns in Kildare, the ****stirrer in Dublin and a few more dotted around the country can’t let it go for whatever reason or whatever they’ve been promised.
    I hope the nargc community in Kildare stand their ground and don’t let cowardly threats of legal action deter them from effecting change and getting rid of the people who are dragging the association through the mud.



    No I don't know that as a fact.

    I assume you know this as fact as you have asked the clown, s stirrer and Co. ....or even spoken to then once...!

    I don't know where you get your information. .Donald trump news feed perhaps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    berettaman wrote: »
    Sometimes the issue is that there are people involved with the various RGCs for many years (20 years+) and have done a lot of good work for the Association.

    These guys are embedded and used to a certain status quo. Over the last 3 years or so that has all changed. Now the thing is you can only sit at the top table so long and say that the current regime are a bunch of wasters and they are making a balls of things.

    The problem you have is that 23/4 RGCs out of 28 are backing the current Executive and Chairman and they are delivering or trying very hard to deliver.

    What is happening now is that some of the counties that were harsh critics are adopting a wait and see approach and going into neutral mode.

    Maybe the current exec are not as black as painted by some people in some of those RGCs.

    Not so much that the war is over more like " they are not complete to$ers"

    For some that yearn for the old days the war will never be over but you know what? We are never going back to what it was .



    I was given to understand, recently, that the issue us not so much with the exec as it is with the entire gb.

    Nothing to do with old days more a gb that follows the pier piper of the day.

    That doesn't read well are you sure that there is a problem with the democratically nominated County delegates, why is it because they are backing the Chairman and the Natonal. Executive as they turn the Association around in difficult waters.

    The GB holds the NE to account through robust debate and questioning are the Quarterly meeting and so far all the questions have been answered to the satisfaction of the GB.

    The NE is elected of the floor of the GB, so how is there a problem with the GB?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Perfectstorm


    That doesn't read well are you sure that there is a problem with the democratically nominated County delegates, why is it because they are backing the Chairman and the Natonal. Executive as they turn the Association around in difficult waters.

    The GB holds the NE to account through robust debate and questioning are the Quarterly meeting and so far all the questions have been answered to the satisfaction of the GB.

    The NE is elected of the floor of the GB, so how is there a problem with the GB?



    it was a colourful rant that i was on the receiving end of...the cleaned up version would be

    love to be known as the big men at a county level probably hen pecked at home

    not contibuting at meetings as in can some of these people actually speak..like nodding dogs on your dashboard at gb meetings

    followed the last pied piper and now the latest cause it sounds good

    couldnt run a sweet shop

    spending less money does of course mean you will have more money in the bank

    walked straight into a bear trap recently that they didnt even see....

    so yes i am sure of what i was told........


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