Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

Tenger · 24-10-2017 10:38PM

Aircraft mad 1 wrote: »

Dose aerlingus have any plans to buy a330neos ��

As I hear they are think of put b757 out of cork to USA

No info on A330neo's, but no doubt they have been examined. CEO previously stated that the A330 was the correct airframe for their current and future network.

The COO 2 weeks ago did refer to possibility of an A321LR route ex-ORK.
B757 will not be operating out of Cork,they are fully tasked as it is.
However he clarified that this was not near the top of their list. (Taxi rank as his analogy) When pressed by a journalist he said 2020 at the earliest.

L1011 · 24-10-2017 10:39PM

Aircraft mad 1 wrote: »

Any update on Ei-gcf ��

It will be delivered soon and will likely be stored until the spring.

Please post a single post rather than multiple posts in a row when possible.

Aircraft mad 1 · 24-10-2017 10:43PM

Tenger wrote: »

No info on A330neo's, but no doubt they have been examined. CEO previously stated that the A330 was the correct airframe for their current and future network.

The COO 2 weeks ago did refer to possibility of an A321LR route ex-ORK.
B757 will not be operating out of Cork,they are fully tasked as it is.
However he clarified that this was not near the top of their list. (Taxi rank as his analogy) When pressed by a journalist he said 2020 at the earliest.

Ok thank u for let know

Aircraft mad 1 · 24-10-2017 10:44PM

L1011 wrote: »

It will be delivered soon and will likely be stored until the spring.

Please post a single post rather than multiple posts in a row when possible.

Ok I will just post one then 👍🏻

JCX BXC · 25-10-2017 09:33AM

Aircraft mad 1 wrote: »

Yep fully b757 could take off from cork

Really, I heard the contrary, although I don't have the exact figures myself can I ask you how you know?

marno21 · 25-10-2017 09:38AM

JCX BXC wrote: »

Really, I heard the contrary, although I don't have the exact figures myself can I ask you how you know?

Page 11 http://www.boeing.com/resources/boeingdotcom/company/about_bca/startup/pdf/historical/757_passenger.pdf

Captain_Crash · 25-10-2017 09:54AM

marno21 wrote: »

Page 11 http://www.boeing.com/resources/boeingdotcom/company/about_bca/startup/pdf/historical/757_passenger.pdf

Hmm... page 10 is more relevant as 3 of EI's 757's are PW, with only 1 being RR... the PW will have a hard time getting out as the figures quoted only have about 300m spare. When you account for weather ect then I do think its too tight.

Boeing's numbers are at sea level, 15C and although not stated its safe to say would be on a dry runway.

The RR bird will have no such problems

goingnowhere · 25-10-2017 10:42AM

Plus Cork is 500 ft ASL
Wet runway, with a crosswind

The one thing the 757 has going for it is the bogie wheels so stopping distance is really good.

Dardania · 25-10-2017 11:08AM

Quite telling that EI/ASL went for PW rather than RR engines - they obviously did not see the possibility they would serve TATL from Cork?

Tenger · 25-10-2017 11:16AM

Dardania wrote: »

Quite telling that EI/ASL went for PW rather than RR engines - they obviously did not see the possibility they would serve TATL from Cork?

If my memory serves me there weren't too many B757s of reasonable condition back when the lease operation was being planned. They managed to get their hands on 3 of the 4 that Finnair were disposing of. Beggars can't be choosers.
EI-CJX was presumably chosen to match engines with the first 3.

L1011 · 25-10-2017 11:26AM

Tenger wrote: »

EI-CJX was presumably chosen to match engines with the first 3.

It doesn't though! It has Rollers.

goingnowhere · 25-10-2017 11:27AM

Dardania wrote: »

Quite telling that EI/ASL went for PW rather than RR engines - they obviously did not see the possibility they would serve TATL from Cork?

ASL got 3 identical 757's in excellent condition from Finnair. Not easy to find

LBR/LBT/LBS are PW
CJX is RR

smurfjed · 25-10-2017 11:27AM

They also don't account for "screen height", or the height at which you have to be at by the time you cross the runway threshold... which is normally 35ft I believe.

Field length limit charts do account for the screen height.

Captain_Crash · 25-10-2017 11:27AM

Tenger wrote: »

EI-CJX was presumably chosen to match engines with the first 3.

EI-CJX is an RR powered bird, the other 3 are PW.

I presume they took it as at the time it was the only viable 75 available.

Captain_Crash · 25-10-2017 11:29AM

smurfjed wrote: »

Field length limit charts do account for the screen height.

Aaaaaand this is why its always handy to have experts who drive these bad boys on the forum

Original post has been amended.

Thanks for the clarification!

roundymac · 25-10-2017 11:36AM

Tenger wrote: »

No info on A330neo's, but no doubt they have been examined. CEO previously stated that the A330 was the correct airframe for their current and future network.

The COO 2 weeks ago did refer to possibility of an A321LR route ex-ORK.
B757 will not be operating out of Cork,they are fully tasked as it is.
However he clarified that this was not near the top of their list. (Taxi rank as his analogy) When pressed by a journalist he said 2020 at the earliest.

I'll believe it when it happens and that'll only happen if Norweigan continue with their growth out of Cork. We have heard so many soundbites from them over the years with T/A services and lazy jorno's just quoting them as fact.

Van.Bosch · 25-10-2017 01:51PM

roundymac wrote: »

I'll believe it when it happens and that'll only happen if Norweigan continue with their growth out of Cork. We have heard so many soundbites from them over the years with T/A services and lazy jorno's just quoting them as fact.

Might not be popular but I think they’d be mad to launch TA out of Cork, if they want to drive scale at the Dublin hub, they should put all growth there. I’m sure yield would be higher too.

duskyjoe · 25-10-2017 03:13PM

SEA next

goingnowhere · 25-10-2017 03:26PM

duskyjoe wrote: »

SEA next

Thats going to need A330

Tenger · 25-10-2017 04:33PM

goingnowhere wrote: »

LBR/LBT/LBS are PW
CJX is RR

Captain_Crash wrote: »

EI-CJX is an RR powered bird, the other 3 are PW.

I presume they took it as at the time it was the only viable 75 available.

L1011 wrote: »

It doesn't though! It has Rollers.

Ha!

Shows how much I know. I think I've only set eyes on that airframe twice.
I just assumed they would go for commonality with the others.

Admonishment for assuming data received!!

Van.Bosch · 25-10-2017 06:36PM

duskyjoe wrote: »

SEA next

Is this a theory or more concrete?

goingnowhere · 25-10-2017 07:23PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Is this a theory or more concrete?

Its come up before, the problem is finding a route with all year round demand

Pros
Lots of Amazon and Microsoft folks in Ireland, HQ is in SEA
Lots of airline leasing companies in Ireland, Boeing HQ is in SEA
Potentially a lot of through traffic from EU for same reasons (only LHR/LGW/AMS/FRA have SEA flights currently)
A lot of good connections onwards into Alaska, Hawaii, Cruise ships etc

BA have tried and struggled to do double daily so perhaps they will go back to 1 a day and let EI do the rest?

zetalambda · 25-10-2017 07:24PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Might not be popular but I think they’d be mad to launch TA out of Cork, if they want to drive scale at the Dublin hub, they should put all growth there. I’m sure yield would be higher too.

Lack of TA from Cork will not necessarily benefit Dublin. I'd imagine most people including myself would much prefer a quick flight to London, Amsterdam or Paris rather than driving 4 hours to Dublin.

kub · 25-10-2017 07:38PM

duskyjoe wrote:

SEA next

That would be very handy for Ryanair when they go to Boeing to collect their new planes ðŸ˜‰

Van.Bosch · 25-10-2017 07:52PM

zetalambda wrote: »

Lack of TA from Cork will not necessarily benefit Dublin. I'd imagine most people including myself would much prefer a quick flight to London, Amsterdam or Paris rather than driving 4 hours to Dublin.

I didn’t specifically mean by gaining the Cork passenger. More that they could earn more by adding for example a DUBJFK rotation attracting pax from transfers and the DUB catchment area than ORKJFK.

You’re right in that it may mean losing the ORK pax via LHR etc. A selerate point but I’d love to know how a connection friendly timed DUBORK route would do.

Jamie2k9 · 25-10-2017 07:54PM

goingnowhere wrote: »

Thats going to need A330

or a B767 subbed in, if it comes to pass (not heard yet) I know the P Style error was very questionable.

ohigg84 · 25-10-2017 07:56PM

Captain_Crash wrote: »

EI-CJX is an RR powered bird, the other 3 are PW.

I presume they took it as at the time it was the only viable 75 available.

Indeed CJX is the oldest 757 in the fleet. It's 1993 vintage!
LBS, LBR and LBT are 1998 frames, still relatively young 757s.

Aircraft mad 1 · 25-10-2017 09:19PM

I seen on internet last night someone said that the a350 order have been change for a330neos&#55358;&#56596;

But my wife works in aerlingus and Said that aerlingus hope to have one a350
Next year &#55357;&#56842;

Van.Bosch · 25-10-2017 09:47PM

Aircraft mad 1 wrote: »

I seen on internet last night someone said that the a350 order have been change for a330neos��

But my wife works in aerlingus and Said that aerlingus hope to have one a350
Next year ��

There is no order for neo’s. The A350 order is still in limbo with no official confirmation although the belief is that they won’t go to EI.

kona · 25-10-2017 09:55PM

Aircraft mad 1 wrote: »

I seen on internet last night someone said that the a350 order have been change for a330neos��

But my wife works in aerlingus and Said that aerlingus hope to have one a350
Next year ��

Not a hope there will be a 350 next year whatsoever.

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