Clare GAA discussion thread

washman3 · 23-10-2017 11:00AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

while comparing the county final this was a drop in standard for sure , and it probably would not have worked out as well for kilmaley had the limerick side more time to prepare and recover after last wednesday nights win , and the fact that diarmuid byrnes was injured and only played a small part were huge factors in this win ,

Can I take it you mean Seamus Hickey was injured and not Diarmuid Byrnes.?
Byrnes plays for Patrickswell.
Surely extra time should have been played when M/Boher drew with Garryspillane last Sunday rather than dragging them both back to G/Grounds for a replay under lights last Wednesday night.

Clareman · 23-10-2017 12:30PM

washman3 wrote: »

Can I take it you mean Seamus Hickey was injured and not Diarmuid Byrnes.?
Byrnes plays for Patrickswell.
Surely extra time should have been played when M/Boher drew with Garryspillane last Sunday rather than dragging them both back to G/Grounds for a replay under lights last Wednesday night.

I'm sure both Murroe, Garryspillane and Kilmaley would say that being promoted back up to senior is far more important than the Munster Intermediate Championship so it had to go to a replay rather than extra time.

washman3 · 23-10-2017 12:37PM

Clareman wrote: »

I'm sure both Murroe, Garryspillane and Kilmaley would say that being promoted back up to senior is far more important than the Munster Intermediate Championship so it had to go to a replay rather than extra time.

Ya definitely, getting promoted to senior is the main aim. I was just making the point that these players were now playing 3 games in a week in October and spent 3 MONTHS twiddling their thumbs during the summer.
I cant speak for Kilmaley but I can bet that Murroe/Boher will be odds-on to be relegated back intermediate again next year in Limerick.

tatoo · 23-10-2017 01:55PM

How many teams are there in the Limerick Senior Championship ? Is it down to twelve

washman3 · 23-10-2017 02:21PM

tatoo wrote: »

How many teams are there in the Limerick Senior Championship ? Is it down to twelve

Yes 12 teams split into 2 groups of 6 with each team playing each other.
Top team in each group go straight to semi-final, with 2nd in group 1 playing 3rd team in group 2 and vice-versa in 1/4 finals.
Teams are not seeded before the initial draw so its possible for the top 6 teams to end up in the same group.
It needs to be culled again and reduced to 8 teams IMO as there is an enormous gap between the likes of Na Piarsigh/Patrickswell/Doon/Adare and the rest.
There was a very good restructure a few years back when a premier intermediate and lower intermediate were introduced. There is also the existing junior and junior B of course.
Another restructure is well due now, 4 teams from senior need to be put to intermediate premier with another 4 dropping from there to lower I/mediate and another 4 from there dropping to junior.
It would make total sense and games would be competitive again.
No point in the likes of Na Piarsigh beating Bruff by 6-22 to 5 points, its useless to both teams.

Clareman · 23-10-2017 02:46PM

washman3 wrote: »

Ya definitely, getting promoted to senior is the main aim. I was just making the point that these players were now playing 3 games in a week in October and spent 3 MONTHS twiddling their thumbs during the summer.
I cant speak for Kilmaley but I can bet that Murroe/Boher will be odds-on to be relegated back intermediate again next year in Limerick.

Don't get me started on this, a simple solution would be to play the championship during the summer, if a team has a lot of county players then that's unlucky, if anything it would even out the championship and might find more inter county players.

If I was made lord of the GAA I would have every Wednesday as "club night" so that inter county players train/turn up at their club and there be at least 1 round of the championship played in May, June, July and August, that would be 4 rounds played (at least) so come September everything could be played off. If a player/club wants to be dual then so be it but they need to be aware of the calendar.

Stationmaster · 23-10-2017 02:49PM

Clareman wrote: »

Don't get me started on this, a simple solution would be to play the championship during the summer, if a team has a lot of county players then that's unlucky, if anything it would even out the championship and might find more inter county players.

If I was made lord of the GAA I would have every Wednesday as "club night" so that inter county players train/turn up at their club and there be at least 1 round of the championship played in May, June, July and August, that would be 4 rounds played (at least) so come September everything could be played off. If a player/club wants to be dual then so be it but they need to be aware of the calendar.

Seriously? If a team has county players then tough? So a club who puts in savage structures and work at underage level and is lucky enough to see some of it's youngsters get onto intercounty teams gets punished - I don't think so.

Nobody disagrees that the club player is being blackguarded at present but that's hardly the answer.

Clareman · 23-10-2017 02:55PM

Stationmaster wrote: »

Seriously? If a team has county players then tough? So a club who puts in savage structures and work at underage level and is lucky enough to see some of it's youngsters get onto intercounty teams gets punished - I don't think so.

Nobody disagrees that the club player is being blackguarded at present but that's hardly the answer.

Check out the rugby, if a club has a lot of internationals then they don't get them for a lot of the season. Most club managers will agree that they never know when/if they'll have their intercounty players available, wrapping them in cotton wool isn't the solution either.

Have set club weekends throughout the summer, for example in Clare it could be weekends 1 and 3 in May for hurling, 2 and 4 for football, this means that Clare intercounty hurling can be played in either weekend 1 or 3, football in week 2 or 4. Yes, players might get injured and they might be playing a lot of games in a couple of months but they could get injured in a car accident and there wouldn't be any extra games played.

Also, no replays except for finals or relegation

Boots234 · 23-10-2017 04:31PM

What time is the county football final on at on Sunday?

danganabu · 23-10-2017 05:49PM

Clareman wrote: »

Check out the rugby, if a club has a lot of internationals then they don't get them for a lot of the season. Most club managers will agree that they never know when/if they'll have their intercounty players available, wrapping them in cotton wool isn't the solution either.

Have set club weekends throughout the summer, for example in Clare it could be weekends 1 and 3 in May for hurling, 2 and 4 for football, this means that Clare intercounty hurling can be played in either weekend 1 or 3, football in week 2 or 4. Yes, players might get injured and they might be playing a lot of games in a couple of months but they could get injured in a car accident and there wouldn't be any extra games played.

Also, no replays except for finals or relegation

What happened with Rugby is the exact reason that this can never be allowed to happen in GAA, club Rugby is dead and if the GAA club scene goes the same route it will be the death knell of the organisation.

Clareman · 23-10-2017 05:52PM

danganabu wrote: »

What happened with Rugby is the exact reason that this can never be allowed to happen in GAA, club Rugby is dead and if the GAA club scene goes the same route it will be the death knell of the organisation.

I'd say the setup of the academies had more to do with the death of club rugby than anything else.

danganabu · 23-10-2017 06:25PM

Clareman wrote: »

I'd say the setup of the academies had more to do with the death of club rugby than anything else.

The academies were the direct result of the separation of club and province.

Clareman · 23-10-2017 06:29PM

danganabu wrote: »

The academies were the direct result of the separation of club and province.

This would probably be more suitable for the rugby forum. But back in the day the B team used to be fed from the clubs, now there's a dedicated academy so there's ~20 players who used to play with the clubs every week who are in the academy and only get released from time to time.

Realbhoy · 23-10-2017 06:59PM

washman3 wrote: »

Can I take it you mean Seamus Hickey was injured and not Diarmuid Byrnes.?
Byrnes plays for Patrickswell.
Surely extra time should have been played when M/Boher drew with Garryspillane last Sunday rather than dragging them both back to G/Grounds for a replay under lights last Wednesday night.

No there is a Diarmuid Byrnes for M/B as well. Nice hurler too.

windy shepard henderson · 24-10-2017 12:21AM

washman3 wrote: »

Can I take it you mean Seamus Hickey was injured and not Diarmuid Byrnes.?
Byrnes plays for Patrickswell.
Surely extra time should have been played when M/Boher drew with Garryspillane last Sunday rather than dragging them both back to G/Grounds for a replay under lights last Wednesday night.

Realbhoy wrote: »

No there is a Diarmuid Byrnes for M/B as well. Nice hurler too.

yep the dog ate my homework on this one , was full sure it was the county player in fact a number of people around me taught the same , the lad who came on was descent in fairness

in truth it was a joke on murroe/ B to make them play 3 games in a week , the fact is they probably would have won this by a few points had they adequate time to recover , common sense needs to take hold here in these situations , munster council or county boards dont give a dam about player welfare

Stationmaster · 24-10-2017 09:14AM

Boots234 wrote: »

What time is the county football final on at on Sunday?

I think 3pm with the junior a final beforehand at 1pm.

Gael85 · 24-10-2017 10:15AM

Stationmaster wrote: »

I think 3pm with the junior a final beforehand at 1pm.

Naomh Eoin v Eire Og is @1-15

Keano · 24-10-2017 10:37AM

Donal Og expected not be involved in 2018

danganabu · 24-10-2017 05:36PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

washman3 wrote: »

Can I take it you mean Seamus Hickey was injured and not Diarmuid Byrnes.?
Byrnes plays for Patrickswell.
Surely extra time should have been played when M/Boher drew with Garryspillane last Sunday rather than dragging them both back to G/Grounds for a replay under lights last Wednesday night.

Realbhoy wrote: »

No there is a Diarmuid Byrnes for M/B as well. Nice hurler too.

yep the dog ate my homework on this one , was full sure it was the county player in fact a number of people around me taught the same , the lad who came on was descent in fairness

in truth it was a joke on murroe/ B to make them play 3 games in a week , the fact is they probably would have won this by a few points had they adequate time to recover , common sense needs to take hold here in these situations , munster council or county boards dont give a dam about player welfare

Can't blame the Munster Council on this one, Limerick county board knew at the starting the year when the Limerick champions were due to play and can't offer any excuse, outside the u21 hurlers all other county teams were out early.

tatoo · 24-10-2017 07:54PM

Keano wrote: »

Donal Og expected not be involved in 2018

He has confirmed his departure in the last few minutes , his position was untenable after his character reference for Humphries.

Claregaafan18 · 24-10-2017 08:26PM

Darach Honan has also retired from inter-county hurling. Nicknamed the Duck, Honan was outstanding in his early years with his performance with Clare U21's in 2009 and especially against Galway in the All-Ireland U21 semi-final where he was absolutely outstanding in that same year. However injury plighted his career and while he did play a key role in Clare's All-Ireland glory in 2013, it has been a struggle since then for the Clonlara clubman. Best of luck on your inter-county retirement Darach!

finbarrk · 24-10-2017 09:15PM

That game against Galway in Thurles in 09 was an outstanding performance.

Claregaafan18 · 25-10-2017 04:47PM

A mixed day for St Flannans College in Gaa this afternoon. The bad news is that their U18.5 A Harty Cup hurling team lost 2-17 to 0-11 to CBC Cork in the 2nd round of the competition and must beat Our Lady's Templemore in the final round of group matches to be played in 3 weeks time in order to give themselves a chance to qualify for the knock-out stages.

However in what must be seen as a huge boost to Clare underage football, the Ennis school have qualified for the final of the U15 A Munster PP Schools Football championship final against St Brendans Killarney after a 7-13 to 1-5 win over Tralee CBS in the semi-final also played today.

So overall a mixed day for St. Flannans as they look set to take on CBS Midleton in the semi-final of the U16.5 A hurling championship tomorrow in Ballyagran. Throw-in is at 1:30 pm.

dastardly00 · 26-10-2017 02:36PM

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Darach Honan has also retired from inter-county hurling. Nicknamed the Duck, Honan was outstanding in his early years with his performance with Clare U21's in 2009 and especially against Galway in the All-Ireland U21 semi-final where he was absolutely outstanding in that same year. However injury plighted his career and while he did play a key role in Clare's All-Ireland glory in 2013, it has been a struggle since then for the Clonlara clubman. Best of luck on your inter-county retirement Darach!

It very much seems like it's for the best that he is retiring.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/1025/915248-honanif-i-kept-hurling-id-need-a-hip-replacement/

He's yet another GAA player to have a serious hip injury.
And also another GAA player to have hip surgery which subsequently did not get rid of the injury!

To be told that you'd need a hip replacement before the age of 30 if he kept playing is just awful.

Anyway, all the best to him in his retirement.

Claregaafan18 · 26-10-2017 02:55PM

Absolute heartbreak for St Flannans College in the U16.5 A Dean Ryan Cup hurling semi-final. A last gasp point from Midleton CBS seals a 2-17 to 2-16 over the Ennis school to book a place in the final in the competition where the Cork school will take on Thurles CBS. Flannans showed tremendous heart and courage and as a collective group from both players and management, they should take great pride in what was an enthralling encounter in Ballyagran today. Commiserations to one and all. Best of luck to Midleton CBS in the final though.

danganabu · 26-10-2017 02:56PM

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Absolute heartbreak for St Flannans College in the U16.5 A Dean Ryan Cup hurling semi-final. A last gasp point from Midleton CBS seals a 2-17 to 2-16 over the Ennis school to book a place in the final in the competition where the Cork school will take on Thurles CBS. Flannans showed tremendous heart and courage and as a collective group from both players and management, they should take great pride in what was an enthralling encounter in Ballyagran today. Commiserations to one and all. Best of luck to Midleton CBS in the final though.

Would the current Flannan's set up be almost exclusively Clare players or are there still lads from Limerick, Tipp and Galway going there?

Clareman · 26-10-2017 07:32PM

danganabu wrote: »

Would the current Flannan's set up be almost exclusively Clare players or are there still lads from Limerick, Tipp and Galway going there?

There isn't any boarders there anymore so the setup would be almost exclusive players from around Ennis.

windy shepard henderson · 29-10-2017 07:05PM

Kilmurry-Ibrickane 1-14 Clondegad 0-14

no fairytale here for tony kelly and gary brennan's men as the bricks prove just that bit better through out the game , cagey first half saw the favorites dominate but only lead by two at the break , points from stephan maloney , darragh sexton keelan sexton and dermot coughlan had the bricks leading by 2 at half time

clondegad ditched there running game in the first half and opted to kick long , with little effect , and were always chasing the game tony kelly and brennan the only likley scorers for the outsiders

second half turned out to be a much better game as clondegad ran more and more at the kib defense with shane brennan and eoin donnlan canceling out efforts from ian macinerney and dermot coughlan to leave the game 8-7 in favor of kib with just over 15 remaining

substitutes noel downes and michael o'dwyer played a huge part in the kib win , first a point by odwyer from distance put 3 between the sides , followed quickly by a noel dowes goal , downes hit the post shortly after which would have nailed the coffin closed
clondegad hit the post late on and had a tadgh lynch effort cleared off the line , a last minute podge mcmahon free was tipped over the crossbar and with that went clondegads chances of a first time county final win

kilmurry will face dr crokes in two weeks time in kilarney ,where they have gone close in the past ,big effort needed the next day to jump that hurdle espically from the likes of keelan sexton who has yet to play his best stuff this year for his club

windy shepard henderson · 29-10-2017 07:08PM

great win for naomh eoin in the junior football championship , an injury time goal from michael liddane the difference in there 3-08 to 0-14 win

https://twitter.com/NaomhEoinGAA/status/924691788107079681

windy shepard henderson · 29-10-2017 07:20PM

against the backdrop of the main day of the year in the football calendar bodyke finally get over the line in the junior hurling final in tulla , wining on a scoreline of 2-17 to 0-15 against the mills , its a long over due victory for the small east clare club that have had far too many lean years and near misses in this division they will not be out of place next year in the intermediate championship , well done lads

https://twitter.com/BodykeGaa/status/924653960413241344

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