New development Somerton ,NewCastle Road,Lucan

shaila · 10-10-2017 2:30pm #1

Hi,

Wanted to start this thread to exchange information regarding Somerton Development in NewCastle Road ,Lucan.

Has anyone been issued with the contracts yet for the bookings made on the viewing held on last month Sep 16th.

Billkil86 · 10-10-2017 3:22pm

Was onto the estate agent last week, and was told that they would start issuing the contracts this week.

shaila · 10-10-2017 3:29pm

Thank you @Billkil86 .Hoping they will be issued this week.The last time i called the agent i was told that they were waiting for the builders solicitors.

conf101 · 10-10-2017 3:31pm

Are there showhouses for these yet or are people buying off plans?

Billkil86 · 10-10-2017 3:32pm

Bought off the plans, show houses won't be ready until the start of next year

shaila · 10-10-2017 3:32pm

There are no show houses yet for this development.We were informed by the agents that the show houses will be available early next year.

Houses were booked off the plans

Billkil86 · 10-10-2017 3:34pm

@shaila Hopefully they will be issued this week, I'll let you know when I get it, or more then likely when I don't get it

MasterChief32 · 13-10-2017 7:13pm

Does anyone have any information on the proposed traveller accomodation that is supposed to be located within the Somerton estate? (According to the SDZ). Is this actually going to be going ahead?

shaila · 18-10-2017 1:28pm

@MasterChief32 : Saw the traveller housing mark in the old SDZ plan
but there are no apartment blocks in the planning permission layout.

Billkil86 · 18-10-2017 2:17pm

If you google search "south dublin county council document 5814223" the first result is the planning application report.

On page 26 of this document you can see that the council have agreed to move this to another area.

Sorry it won't let me post links or attachments.

MasterChief32 · 18-10-2017 2:33pm

Yeah i seen that there the other day.
That' good to know anyway.

Cheers

shaila · 18-10-2017 8:50pm

@Billkil86 : Thank you,that was a good piece of information.Followed up with Martina today and she mentioned contracts will be issued shortly ,not sure how shortly though

Are you on the Somerton Avenue or Somerton Green

Billkil86 · 19-10-2017 4:42pm

@shaila: I'm on Somerton Avenue, what about yourself?

shaila · 20-10-2017 7:18pm

@Billkil86 : I'm on Somerton Green.In the document that you mentioned http://www.sdublincoco.ie/viewdocument.aspx?fileid=5814223 under Section 11 Page 27 it states that there are 26 Social housing Units planned ,any idea on which part will they be in?

And on the Management fees found the below info from another thread ,is this going to be the same for Somerton as well ?

Savills has been appointed to act on behalf of the Management Company for St Helens Adamstown,
Co Dublin. As agents, we will be looking after the maintenance of the external common areas on
behalf of each home owner in the development. Our role will include the provision of a number of
services, including;
• Public liability insurance
• Landscaping
• Refuse collection
• Street lighting
• Drainage
• Health and Safety
We have drafted a budget to give prospective purchasers an indication of the service charges that
they will be responsible for each year. The average charge as per the estimated budget is as follows;

Size | Estimated Ave Charge P/A
110m2 | €575
119m2 | €605
139m2 | €670
139m2 | €670
132m2 | €650

Billkil86 · 23-10-2017 12:09pm

@shaila: As far as I can tell from what I have seen online, these social houses are all being grouped together in the northwest of the development, with its own entrance off Adamstown Drive.

The Management Fees for Somerton according to what was handed out in the sales office are:

House Type - Cost
Blackthorn - €540
Holly - €620
Ash - €540
Maple - €610
Oak - €740
Sycamore - €650
Rowan - €570

izzyflusky · 24-10-2017 11:03pm

Does anyone have the price list?

shaila · 26-10-2017 9:42am

@izzyflusky : Below is the price list for the first Phase Launch

House Type Beds Style Sq ft From Prices From
Blackthorn 3 Mid / End Terrace 1249 €320,000
Ash 3 Semi / Detached 1270 €345,000
Rowan 4 Mid Terrace 1356 €375,000
Holly 4 End Terrace 1539 €415,000
Maple 4 Detached 1518 €450,000
Sycamore 4 Detached 1679 €470,000
Oak 5 Detached 2024 €575,000

shaila · 26-10-2017 10:56am

Just on the Contracts rang Martina from Leahy Homes today and she mentioned Contracts will be going out from tomorrow.

Jigg79 · 05-11-2017 11:20pm

Any update on contracts? Did anyone receive any yet? Cheers.

MasterChief32 · 06-11-2017 9:32am

Not yet

Billkil86 · 06-11-2017 11:06am

I was just told that contracts were issued on Friday!!

Update: Solicitor has confirmed that they received the contract today.

shaila · 07-11-2017 11:04pm

Got my contract as well yesterday. Waiting for solicitor appointment to review. Heard from my solicitor that there is no house plan in the contract. Was expecting the house plan and measurements in the contract.

@Billkil86 Did you get chance to review the contract with your solicitor?

Billkil86 · 09-11-2017 11:34am

@shaila: Haven't had the chance yet, ill be hoping to early next week. Have you gotten any other feedback from your solicitor?

shaila · 12-11-2017 10:49pm

@BillKil86 : Which House Type did you book.
@MasterChief32,Jigg79 : Did you book in the first phase,would you mind telling which road and house type.

Came to know that whoever booked in Somerton Grove will be receiving contracts after 1 or 2 weeks .

Billkil86 · 12-11-2017 10:59pm

@shaila: I booked an Ash! Have you met with your solicitor and signed your contract yet?

shaila · 12-11-2017 11:13pm

Went to my solicitor to go through the Contract, the contract is very high-level and has no detail of any particulars of the house. There is a house plan printout (which is not part of the contract) provided for reference which again is not detailed and is just for reference purpose.

The house plan provided is very generic and is not according to the direction of the house that we booked. We also noticed that the house plan printout had 2 windows missing from the approved plan.

We requested our solicitor to get the exact house plan as the house plans for the ASH type are not as per the approved plan from the planning commission. The HWC is in the living room in the current plan which is very disappointing. Have attached the screenshots of Approved plan and the plan which came along with the contract for reference.
House_Plan_Planning_Permission_Approved.JPG

House_plan_Current.jpg

If anyone who booked ASH type is having the same concern we can raise this issue together and get clarifications on why is the HWC in the living room in the current plan.

There is no info on brands of Kitchen Appliances, Washing Machine, Dryer, Radiator & Water heater in the contract. If anyone has enquired about these details or already know it please update the forum.

shaila · 12-11-2017 11:14pm

Billkil86 wrote: »

@shaila: I booked an Ash! Have you met with your solicitor and signed your contract yet?

Not signed yet.We had a couple of questions to be answered.

Billkil86 · 13-11-2017 10:28am

shaila wrote: »

If anyone who booked ASH type is having the same concern we can raise this issue together and get clarifications on why is the HWC in the living room in the current plan.

I am meeting with my solicitor on Thursday and will be sure to raise the same queries.

Nelsona · 13-11-2017 6:17pm

Thanks All, really helpful information here. I am hoping to go with an ash in the next phase to release and have same concern with the boiler in the living room can't understand why would do that. Just wondering do u know what the size and height of attic is as we would like to put extra storage/ Landry room up there:)

Jigg79 · 14-11-2017 4:27pm

Hi @shaila,
Did you get one of the brochures for Somerton when booking? In that, the HWC is at the back of the living room, were you not aware? I do find it a bit strange myself why it is there. It seems to be a little extra room but not fully separated from the living room. See what they say anyway.

I met with my solicitor and went through the contracts and again no measurements were given but I was told this is standard so they can't be held accountable if the measurements are slightly off. Only if the square footage of the floor size is drastically off are they in breach of contract. (They give you 1200 sq ft when they state 1270 sq ft for example)

I passed by recently and it looks like a couple are finished on the outside. Did anyone hear of dates for the showhouses to be ready?

Cheers.

shaila · 14-11-2017 11:55pm

@Jigg79: We decided to book a house after checking the Plans on the Planning Permission site.On the day of booking we were totally disappointed to see the HWC in the living room and tried asking the sales guys but no one had the answer ,they said its the builders decision,after all the long wait we thought we would just go ahead and book one.

The reason i put up this question to the solicitor was to get an answer from the builder for the reason to change .Only the ASH type is changed from the original plan ,the rest are the same.Am worried about the noise in the living area because of the HWC. It will be very disturbing for sure.

shaila · 15-11-2017 12:00am

Nelsona wrote: »

Thanks All, really helpful information here. I am hoping to go with an ash in the next phase to release and have same concern with the boiler in the living room can't understand why would do that. Just wondering do u know what the size and height of attic is as we would like to put extra storage/ Landry room up there:)

Hi Nelsona,

http://www.sdublincoco.ie/viewdocument.aspx?fileid=5814230
check Page 53 in the document ,it provides info on whether attic conversion is possible .For ASH type it is not possible to convert.You can check with the agents directly,i might be wrong as well.

shaila · 18-11-2017 10:42pm

Billkil86 wrote: »

I am meeting with my solicitor on Thursday and will be sure to raise the same queries.

@Billkil86 Hope you met with your solicitor on Thursday. Did you sign the contract? any concerns that we need to be aware of.

We called our solicitor on friday to include some more question,
Location of solar panel on the roof and will it be placed based on maximum sunlight direction.
What kind of noise insulation provided if HWC and pump is going to be in the living room for the Ash type house.

shaila · 18-11-2017 10:59pm

Jigg79 wrote: »

Hi @shaila,

I passed by recently and it looks like a couple are finished on the outside. Did anyone hear of dates for the showhouses to be ready?

Cheers.

Spoke with Leahy agent approximate date for show house Feb 2018 but its not guaranteed.

shaila · 21-11-2017 8:34pm

Any info or inputs on the HWC in the living room ?any thoughts on this will be very helpful

Rob18 · 22-11-2017 11:35am

Hi All,

Just reading through thread on this, very helpful thanks all. Considering buying in the coming phase (Blackthorn or Ash) but have seen a couple of points that concern me in the planning application report.

Dublin South Co. Co. Doc. 5814223

8:11, Page 26: Traveller accommodation
"reached agreement that the traveller accommodation be moved to adjoining Tandy Lane Village Development Area following completion of development in Somerton

8:3:1, Page 20: Possible Fire Station
"It is proposed that site for a possible fire station at Adamstown be transferred into the Tandy Lane Village Development Area"

Does anyone know how closely situated this adjoining development (Tandy Lane Village) will be to Somerton?

Thanks all for your help:)

shaila · 22-11-2017 1:42pm

Rob18 wrote: »

Does anyone know how closely situated this adjoining development (Tandy Lane Village) will be to Somerton?

Hope this helps

I have an old SDZ document with the development map. But its not updated based on the comment from Somerton document.

Attached snapshot of the tandys lane and somerton development
Screen Shot 2017-11-19 at 21.37.26.png

Possible Tandy's lane village centre and fire station will be moved near to that. Marked in blue
Screen Shot 2017-11-22 at 12.39.06.png

shaila · 23-11-2017 3:56pm

Its almost 2 months now from 1st phase launch date.
Anyone else got their contract and signed?

We are waiting for the builder solicitor to come back with answers.

Billkil86 · 30-11-2017 4:06pm

@shaila Did you get an response from the builders solicitor?

shaila · 30-11-2017 6:20pm

Billkil86 wrote: »

@shaila Did you get an response from the builders solicitor?

Hi @Billkil86,
No we have not got a response for the change in plan for HWC.We are waiting to hear back.

Our solicitor mentioned that there was supposed to be a site meeting yesterday and they would have some answer for it but havent heard back yet.

MasterChief32 · 01-12-2017 5:13pm

Our contracts have been signed and sent back to Mcanns.

Does anybody know when Phase B is due to go on the market?

Billkil86 · 01-12-2017 5:51pm

Our contract has been signed and sent back aswell.

As far as I know phase 2 won't be released until the show houses are ready, which is supposed to be February.

shaila · 02-12-2017 11:52pm

@Billkil86 and @MasterChief32 : Congrats on signing your contracts.

Did you get any information from your solicitor regarding the Kitchen suppliers/fitters ,will they allow any kind of changes ?

Any info on when the houses will be completed?

Cableguy · 03-12-2017 1:37am

Hi all,
Id like to welcome myself as someone who is very interested in buying in Somerton but am finding it very hard to do so from plans and looking for some advice. Im wondering if anyone knows what type of houses these are, & another pic.
Looks like they have 3 levels but not sure of the house type!
Is the Blackthorn attic convertible? Would love to know where to get the dimensions! An some houses in the Youtube video look different from the plans when looking at the roof layouts! Also seems there are many house types that have been left out of phase 1 but not sure how many!

Thanks in advance.
B

SomerHo · 04-12-2017 2:02pm

Hi All,
Our contract has been signed on Friday :-)
Cableguy, Looking at the plans it seems that the house on your pic is the Oak type. Not sure about 3rd level, could be an attic.
Yes, the Blackthorn is attic convertible, you can find in some of the documents attached to this thread that the Blackthorn (HT-01) has 20m2 adaptable room for attic.

shaila · 04-12-2017 5:09pm

Congrats @SomerHo

@Cableguy House in the pic is 5 bed semi detached with attic converted (HT08)
Dimensions given in these documents are just for reference, can change based on builders decision.

Link to the document application report dec 2016
http://www.sdublincoco.ie/viewdocument.aspx?fileid=5814223

and link to another document dated june 2016
http://www.sdublincoco.ie/viewdocument.aspx?fileid=5870236

@Rob
Second document has the fire station proposal in Tandy's lane

Cheers

Gorman120392 · 11-12-2017 6:44pm

Hi everyone,

I'm Laura and I have purchased in phase 1 in Somerton too

. I have created a group on facebook which is closed and private for phase 1 buyers only to share updates and any developments please feel free to add the group.

I will only accept buyers from phase 1 to limited questions & conversations

facebook.com/groups/136356063745801/

Many thanks,
Laura

shaila · 16-12-2017 2:00pm

Hi ,
Thanks Laura for starting the FB page.

We received reply from the builders solicitor with regard to the HWC in the living room for the ASH type.

They said the boiler has been moved to the front wall of the house which is part of the kitchen.

Did anyone happen to enquire about this and received similar kind of response?

We have requested for a simple sketch or a layout to know the exact location of the HWC.

Thanks in advance.

Gorman120392 · 16-12-2017 2:55pm

We bought the ash too and had asked the same question about the HWC room seemed like a waste of space in the living room.

Please do share any pics they send on thank you.

izzyflusky · 01-01-2018 12:05pm

Hi,
I was wondering what was the sale like for the first phase. Was there queing up for days like some developments last year?

climber59 · 02-01-2018 3:20pm

I was coming on to ask the exact same thing! I was wondering if there was camping/queuing from the night before for phase one. I thought it had died down but heard a few stories recently about other new developments.

We really have our hearts set on getting a house in Somerton in the next phase so keeping everything crossed.

New development Somerton ,NewCastle Road,Lucan

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