Dairy chit chat II

freedominacup · 02-10-2017 08:03PM

stanflt wrote: »

Parlour wasn't big enough tbh- more units going in for next spring

Sold some high ebi cows that I didn't like tbh and low and behold their ebi plummeted like hell

March was the only busy month tbh and we haven't been busy since

Took on another farm that will prob eventually be turned to a milking platform- build numbers organically and then convert them to dairy stock

Organic growth and no borrowing

Ho bull beef financed us to get back into cows. They are good convertors of quality forage. No need for ad lib conc rations. 380-400kg carcasses at 18-20 months. They'll be easy to shift May/June '19.

kowtow · 02-10-2017 08:28PM

freedominacup wrote: »

Ho bull beef financed us to get back into cows. They are good convertors of quality forage. No need for ad lib conc rations. 380-400kg carcasses at 18-20 months. They'll be easy to shift May/June '19.

I've a lot of spare milk between now and the year end if I don't dry off early.

Thinking of feeding a bunch of autumn bull calves into the new year and then putting them out at the new out-farm in the new season.

Only bugger is we are tight on nitrates already here, but I don't suppose a dozen bull calves is going to make things or break them.

Mooooo · 02-10-2017 09:07PM

kowtow wrote: »

I've a lot of spare milk between now and the year end if I don't dry off early.

Thinking of feeding a bunch of autumn bull calves into the new year and then putting them out at the new out-farm in the new season.

Only bugger is we are tight on nitrates already here, but I don't suppose a dozen bull calves is going to make things or break them.

Have you applied for a derogation? Ups limit to 250 from 170.

visatorro · 02-10-2017 09:38PM

4-24 fr, 3-94pr, 4-80 lact, 144 scc urea 20.14 litres 3kg 16% nut. No silage fed yet. No autumn calvers yet.

Had one collection at 3-98 pr. Never had over four before.

farmer lad · 02-10-2017 11:48PM

What kinda money are calved and incalf heifers making lately?
Any one know what kinda money heifers in Lisduff made Saturday?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 03-10-2017 08:35AM

NZ dairy farmers could be fined for using Palm Kernel as a supplement.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/97398319/Dairy-farmers-chase-palm-kernel-to-tide-themselves-over-wet-weather

whelan2 · 03-10-2017 09:45AM

farmer lad wrote: »

What kinda money are calved and incalf heifers making lately?
Any one know what kinda money heifers in Lisduff made Saturday?

Bought 10 fresh calved 2nd and 3rd calvers for 1450 each a couple of weeks ago, are you buying or selling?

yosemitesam1 · 03-10-2017 09:53AM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

NZ dairy farmers could be fined for using Palm Kernel as a supplement.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/97398319/Dairy-farmers-chase-palm-kernel-to-tide-themselves-over-wet-weather

The same could potentially be done to fat supplements like megafat here if enough started using it

K.G. · 03-10-2017 10:08AM

any of you have any problems feeding a coarse feed through 75mm pipe in batch feeders in the parlour.any other problems

George Sunsnow · 03-10-2017 01:33PM

K.G. wrote: »

any of you have any problems feeding a coarse feed through 75mm pipe in batch feeders in the parlour.any other problems

No problem feeding it but the main concern was the mix
Too much of one ingredient going down the chute as opposed to another

K.G. · 03-10-2017 01:36PM

George Sunsnow wrote: »

No problem feeding it but the main concern was the mix
Too much of one ingredient going down the chute as opposed to another

Vmac are supplying the bin and they say.they have a.special cap on the bin to keep the ration evenly mixed going in the bin

kowtow · 03-10-2017 03:18PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Have you applied for a derogation? Ups limit to 250 from 170.

Isn't the derogation closing date May?

Timmaay · 03-10-2017 03:30PM

kowtow wrote: »

Isn't the derogation closing date May?

End of March I think, for that year, not for the previous year!

Mooooo · 03-10-2017 03:34PM

K.G. wrote: »

Vmac are supplying the bin and they say.they have a.special cap on the bin to keep the ration evenly mixed going in the bin

Crowleys have that for when meal enters the bin, would it separate again going out? Haven't fed meal in parlour feeders yet, distant memories of dad belting the old bin to get meal out every milking, that was years ago tho with a corrugated bin

kowtow · 03-10-2017 07:31PM

Timmaay wrote: »

End of March I think, for that year, not for the previous year!

So too late to get derogation for this year in any case!

Floki · 03-10-2017 08:28PM

kowtow wrote: »

So too late to get derogation for this year in any case!

I'm nearly sure it's November of the year your applying for.

I'm going about it at the moment with my Teagasc advisor for this year anyway.

Timmaay · 03-10-2017 08:57PM

Floki wrote: »

I'm nearly sure it's November of the year your applying for.

I'm going about it at the moment with my Teagasc advisor for this year anyway.

Well I'm nearly sure it's the end of March lol (unless there is an extension, which there was until mid April this year due to a backlog. What your prb thinking about is exporting slurry or dung to get you back under 170kg, that can be done until the 31st of Dec, so if say kowtow is proper stuck and well over his 170 now, but has a neighbour willing to take his slurry that is his only option to stay compliant this year.

Floki · 03-10-2017 09:31PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Well I'm nearly sure it's the end of March lol (unless there is an extension, which there was until mid April this year due to a backlog. What your prb thinking about is exporting slurry or dung to get you back under 170kg, that can be done until the 31st of Dec, so if say kowtow is proper stuck and well over his 170 now, but has a neighbour willing to take his slurry that is his only option to stay compliant this year.

I may have a talk again so!

RedPeppers · 03-10-2017 11:52PM

Floki wrote: »

kowtow wrote: »

So too late to get derogation for this year in any case!

I'm nearly sure it's November of the year your applying for.

I'm going about it at the moment with my Teagasc advisor for this year anyway.

Deadline end of March iirc apply here every year came in at 235kg last year

whelan2 · 04-10-2017 08:08AM

Got cyrpto here yesterday, normally have cows calving in paddock but crap weather meant they were inside. Lost one , 2 a bit wobbly, rest of calves will get halocur when born.

Mooooo · 04-10-2017 08:28AM

whelan2 wrote: »

Got cyrpto here yesterday, normally have cows calving in paddock but crap weather meant they were inside. Lost one , 2 a bit wobbly, rest of calves will get halocur when born.

Have you many left for the autumn? Sorry to hear that if anything adds heart breaking work it's that fcuking thing. My little calf drank the biestings but can't stand, half throwing herself about the place.

whelan2 · 04-10-2017 08:31AM

Was on top of my head yesterday morning, oh away and welding man came to fix up sheds before cows came in, so didnt get to check calves until later than normal, was too late for one calf. 8 left to calve .

Mooooo · 04-10-2017 09:03AM

Cows coughing a fair bit no snotty noses tho. Don't vaccincate for Ibr, did for worms 30 June, would it possible worms again? Generally only do them once a year during lactation and maybe when dry again if i use Albex for fluke as well

Mooooo · 04-10-2017 09:12AM

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blackdog1 · 04-10-2017 09:23AM

whelan2 wrote:

Got cyrpto here yesterday, normally have cows calving in paddock but crap weather meant they were inside. Lost one , 2 a bit wobbly, rest of calves will get halocur when born.

I'd source parafor as quick as possible if I were you Whelan. That and vitalife. You should be able to save the 2 wobbly ones. I was on halacour and calves hot crypto at about 18 days. Haven't had a problem since I switched to parafor.

whelan2 · 04-10-2017 10:53AM

blackdog1 wrote: »

I'd source parafor as quick as possible if I were you Whelan. That and vitalife. You should be able to save the 2 wobbly ones. I was on halacour and calves hot crypto at about 18 days. Haven't had a problem since I switched to parafor.

Do I get parafor from the vet,what is vitalife. Using effydral tablets, norodine injection and halocur at the minute

awaywithyou · 04-10-2017 11:44AM

whelan2 wrote: »

Do I get parafor from the vet,what is vitalife. Using effydral tablets, norodine injection and halocur at the minute

Vet should have parafor.... Excellent product for treating crypto

visatorro · 04-10-2017 11:49AM

whelan2 wrote: »

Do I get parafor from the vet,what is vitalife. Using effydral tablets, norodine injection and halocur at the minute

Vitalife is an electrolyte. I was giving some yoghurt aswell instead of milk if they weren't feeding. You get big tubs in lidl or aldi. Got that off here last spring.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 04-10-2017 12:40PM

awaywithyou wrote: »

Vet should have parafor.... Excellent product for treating crypto

It's good alright but it's a pain in the ass to use. It has to be dissolved first before being given and when there are a good few calves to do, it does get annoying giving a few mls to each calf. Halocur is just squirt and move on.

whelan2 · 04-10-2017 12:42PM

I put them all out of the shed into calving paddock.

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