Saorview Connect

The Cush · 30-09-2017 09:05AM

byte wrote: »

I see they're no longer supplying any Freesat boxes either, which might be part of the reason? Only Humax is listed on the Freesat website for STB's.

It may partially explain the long delay

Manhattan did plan to launch a Freesat Freetime box according to reports about 2 years ago but nothing since. Only 2 Freeview boxes available from them it appears and none of them Freeview Play (HbbTV). Are they exiting the STB market? It would explain the delay.

STB. · 30-09-2017 09:28AM

Is it this one ?

General Features

Full HD HEVC (H.265) and / or MPEG4 (H.264) Decoding

Fullband Capture & Multi-tuner support.

Built-in harddrive options

Small Form Factor

Embedded CAS

Enhanced Media Player with wide range of codec support

SW Update via OAD (Over Air Download - DVB-SSU compliant) or USB

HDMI 1.4 with HDCP 1.2, up to 1080p60 resolution support

ErP Regulation compliant eco-design; Standby < 0.5W

10/100 Fast Ethernet Support

802.11b/g/n or ac Wi-Fi support.

HBB TV

VoD & Catch-up TV applications.

Smart TV portal ready

The Cush · 30-09-2017 10:35AM

STB. wrote: »

Is it this one ?

From the new Vestel range launched at IBC2017 I assume - https://www.hbbtv.org/news-events/ibc-2017-is-finally-here/

DVB-T/T2 - http://vestelinternational.com/en/consumer-electronics/set-top-box/hd-dvb-t-t2/
This is the DVB-S2 version - http://vestel.co.uk/en/consumer-electronics/set-top-box/hd-dvb-s2/

Is there a combi version? They have 1 combi in their 2017 range (p.28)

donegal. · 30-09-2017 11:10AM

the box is being made and distributed by Shomar so it'll be branded as Powerpoint.
They have stock in the country and are taking orders now. But apparently they have to wait for the go ahead from rte before they send them out.
They're launching with no built in hard drive rrp €199 , but a 2nd version will be available in March with a hard drive.

Model – DXD7025SVC

Ean - 5391503413233

Description – Saorview Connect Hybrid STB

STB. · 30-09-2017 12:23PM

So its one of these then

https://www.ekt-digital.com/stb-devices/dxd7025

Fantastic news thats its not Vestel so. Chinesey this time.

Capt'n Midnight · 30-09-2017 01:03PM

STB. wrote: »

So its one of these then

https://www.ekt-digital.com/stb-devices/dxd7025

IF it's that chassis then Dual Tuner, so if watching live TV can only record one thing in the background. (not a biggie but some might assume three inputs means three tuners)

The devil in the detail is what EPG it will it offer on Satellite ? (v. unlikely to offer Freesat)
Will it be SaorSat compatible , as in proper channel numbers ?
No CI slot ?

corm500 · 30-09-2017 01:10PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

IF it's that chassis then Dual Tuner, so if watching live TV can only record one thing in the background. (not a biggie but some might assume three inputs means three tuners)

The devil in the detail is what EPG it will it offer on Satellite ? (v. unlikely to offer Freesat)
Will it be SaorSat compatible , as in proper channel numbers ?
No CI slot ?

I think at €199 base price they will offer Freesat. The only way they can shift serious units of this box at that price is with a Freesat EPG. I hope i'm not wrong.:D

donegal. · 30-09-2017 01:31PM

freesat and saorview ,both with full 7 day guide.
both with series link and remote record.
catch up tv for rte and tg4

corm500 · 30-09-2017 01:38PM

donegal. wrote: »

freesat and saorview ,both with full 7 day guide.
both with series link and remote record.
catch up tv for rte and tg4

That's a box that will sell right there.

galtee boy · 30-09-2017 01:56PM

donegal. wrote: »

freesat and saorview ,both with full 7 day guide.
both with series link and remote record.
catch up tv for rte and tg4

I thought you said the first box costing €199 won't have a hard drive, so how can it have series link, remote record etc ? At €199 without a built in hard drive, it's an extortionist price. By the way, seeing as information about Saorview Connect is up there with the third secret of Fatima, how do you know it will definitely have a Freesat 7 day EPG in it ?

Harry Palmr · 30-09-2017 02:18PM

For 200 quids it better have a HD but as this is Ireland and a product specifically for Ireland maybe that is the price for a "dumb" box.

Tigerandahalf · 30-09-2017 03:01PM

donegal. wrote: »

freesat and saorview ,both with full 7 day guide.
both with series link and remote record.
catch up tv for rte and tg4

If that is indeed the case it will blow all the other paytv providers away who are offering basic packages for about €30 like Sky, Virgin, Vodafone and Eir.

Most people will have external hard drives already so a combo box for €200 is good value.

Sam Russell · 30-09-2017 03:05PM

Of course, if the box has provision for an internal HD it will not be a problem.

donegal. · 30-09-2017 03:31PM

donegal. · 30-09-2017 03:34PM

Tigerandahalf · 30-09-2017 03:45PM

It says it has 3 players on demand.
Rte, tg4 and All4??

Edit: My mistake. It was point no.3 I saw (not 3 players)

It says there that Now/Next only on satellite.

It also says connection to external hard drive not available til mid 2018 (with software update)

Gerry Wicklow · 30-09-2017 03:49PM

Without a Freesat like EPG it's a rip-off IMO at €199

Johnboy1951 · 30-09-2017 04:01PM

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

Without a Freesat like EPG it's a rip-off IMO at €199

.... and no space for an internal HDD it seems

About the tuners ....... how many muxes and transponders can be used concurrently?

It seems maybe only one of each ...... which if so is useless for a modern STB.

donegal. · 30-09-2017 04:38PM

only now and next on freesat is very disappointing

Gerry Wicklow · 30-09-2017 04:42PM

If it's only now/next then it probably won't have any form of autotuning either making it a glorified combo box with closed firmware. You'd get a better enigma box with more functionality for a lot less.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 30-09-2017 04:45PM

From the screenshot it looks like the terrestrial and satellite guides are separate. I wonder will it even be possible to integrate the two.

Harry Palmr · 30-09-2017 04:49PM

Looks like a complete wasted opportunity.

Atlantic Dawn · 30-09-2017 04:50PM

I think it really needs the inbuilt hard drive, they should price it €50 more if that's what it would have take.

Gerry Wicklow · 30-09-2017 04:50PM

Just noticed also "record to ext HDD USB (firmware upgrade 2018)" so they don't even have that much working right! Jeez!!!

Tigerandahalf · 30-09-2017 04:55PM

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

Just noticed also "record to ext HDD USB (firmware upgrade 2018)" so they don't even have that much working right! Jeez!!!

Exactly. So basically you can only view previous viewings if they are on the player.
You won't be able to record tv3 or any of the satellite channels (until the software update)

A dead duck I am afraid.

If the Rte player app gets updated with Chromecast functionality you would have no need for this box.

It is such a shame.

Some people like might the remote record feature but it is of limited use if you can't use it for the satellite channels.

It is noteworthy that the existing saorview app does not show any of the satellite channels.

Has anyone an idea what it would have cost RTE to licence the freesat epg?

Johnboy1951 · 30-09-2017 05:02PM

My initial reaction is that it is a load of junk.

I can buy a combo STB for about €60 which integrates the two tuner lists and records to external USB HDD, which is better than this.

So the €140 is for the streaming/catch up or whatever it manages.

Is there something I am missing that might make this a worthwhile purchase for someone (not me)?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 30-09-2017 05:09PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

My initial reaction is that it is a load of junk.

I can buy a combo STB for about €60 which integrates the two tuner lists and records to external USB HDD, which is better than this.

So the €140 is for the streaming/catch up or whatever it manages.

Is there something I am missing that might make this a worthwhile purchase for someone (not me)?

I don't think you are. In fairness I think the sentiment here was that this box would disappoint.

postsnthing · 30-09-2017 05:24PM

Johnboy1951 wrote:

I can buy a combo STB for about â‚¬60 which integrates the two tuner lists and records to external USB HDD, which is better than this.

Gerry Wicklow wrote:

If it's only now/next then it probably won't have any form of autotuning either making it a glorified combo box with closed firmware. You'd get a better enigma box with more functionality for a lot less.

I have been holding out to see what this connect was going to offer ! Any suggestions as to what the best least expensive option would be ? (Point me to another thread if necessary)

Johnboy1951 · 30-09-2017 05:55PM

postsnthing wrote: »

I have been holding out to see what this connect was going to offer ! Any suggestions as to what the best least expensive option would be ? (Point me to another thread if necessary)

This is one of the cheapest combo boxes and you can have autoupdate if you wish - via broadband apparently.
You can also get a Boards discount.

http://www.freetv.ie/combo-box/

Best & least expensive are mutually exclusive

Tigerandahalf · 30-09-2017 06:04PM

Folks is there a lot involved in getting these enigma type boxes set up with series link for satellite.
A link to steps involved would be great.

Saorview Connect

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