Why is it normal/OK to be obese in Ireland?.

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:35PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

That's brilliant for you, however not everyone is in a position to spend hours planning, shopping and cooking. Cutting out the sugary snacks and drinks goes a long way and takes little or no time just a strong will.

A chicken and vegetable stirfry takes 20 minutes to prepare and cook. Not hard to do.

Nutrition is so important for a growing child.

I detest laziness and taking the easy option.

givyjoe · 29-09-2017 02:36PM

Romantic Rose wrote: »

A chicken and vegetable stirfry takes 20 minutes to prepare and cook. Not hard to do.

Nutrition is so important for a growing child.

I detest laziness and taking the easy option.

So you don't spend hours meticulously shopping for food, planning and preparing meals then..?

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:36PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Nope, other parents.

Of course I am.

Feeding a little child plates of junk on a regular basis is disgusting and will give them poor health in the future.

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AnneFrank · 29-09-2017 02:38PM

think you touched a nerve there Rose !!

Wibbs · 29-09-2017 02:38PM

B0jangles wrote: »

Odd that all of your invented phrases are written in a woman's voice, especially given that the obesity issue is slightly worse among men than it is women.

It is indeed. Personally I would have less sympathy for men who get fat and then own about it. Now I'm not talking about people who are properly obese. IMHO that's more of an actual emotional/psychological illness coming out as weight gain. I mean the guys who are a bit porky, soft around the middle, let themselves go sorta thing. Men have fewer excuses for gaining such weight. We have way more testosterone than women and that hormone builds lean tissue and "burns" fat(in the days when they had eunuchs one of the most obvious signs was weight gain). We have more of that lean tissue and less fatty tissue than women and our hormone profiles don't vary nearly so much during life and we don't get pregnant.

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:38PM

givyjoe wrote: »

So you don't spend hours meticulously shopping for food, planning and preparing meals then..?

When I weaned my children in particular, yes I did. Batched cooked healthy meals, into the freezer and cooked as and when I needed them.

I don't cook 20 minute meals every day. My point is , it doesn't take a long time to chop up veg and cook.

Hitman3000 · 29-09-2017 02:39PM

Romantic Rose wrote:

A chicken and vegetable stirfry takes 20 minutes to prepare and cook. Not hard to do.

You said hours planning and shopping, I responded to that not to cooking times but thanks for the tip.

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:39PM

AnneFrank wrote: »

think you touched a nerve there Rose !!

Does fat have nerves?

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:41PM

Great initiative by the government. Hopefully parents will step up to the plate so to speak and start cooking and eating smarter at home!

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ban-on-high-sugar-fat-and-salt-foods-ahead-for-school-meals-plan-1.3232291%3Fmode=amp

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Hitman3000 · 29-09-2017 02:42PM

Romantic Rose wrote:

Feeding a little child plates of junk on a regular basis is disgusting and will give them poor health in the future.

Do you read anyone here advocating feeding or that they feed a child junk?

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osarusan · 29-09-2017 02:43PM

The 'it's because they eat too much' argument only goes so far though. It is always true but that doesn't mean it's always illuminating.

There are definitely going to be people who underestimate the calories in their food. Some apparently healthy choices are not healthy at all, and people also overestimate the number of calories that get used by activities and exercise. Even when people know that X is healthy and Y is unhealthy, I think that people often don't know just how unhealthy the unhealthy stuff is too.

But there are others that know all that and are overweight anyway, and don't really care much, they like eating and are happy enough. They don't feel they need help for anything. Purely my own observations, but they are almost never hugely overweight...just not bothered shifting the extra pounds.

And there are people who eat as a reaction to something else, and that underlying cause has to be dealt with. There isn't always going to be an underlying cause, but there sometimes will be, and if eating is a symptom of something else, then that something else needs to be focused on. Again, just my own observations, but the more obese people are, the more I can see an underlying cause behind it.

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:43PM

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Do you?

Yes I have great empathy for innocent little children who are weaned onto junk. I am in a position to see what parents put into children's lunch boxes and I think to myself, do you not care about your child and their health.

Nutrition and developing good diet habits early is an integral part of parenting.

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:45PM

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It seems to knacker you so much that you neglect your relationship though.

Very mature. Stick to the topic at hand.

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givyjoe · 29-09-2017 02:47PM

Romantic Rose wrote: »

Very mature. Stick to the topic at hand.

Er, didn't you just reply a few moments ago.. with 'does fat have nerves' ?!

pilly · 29-09-2017 02:47PM

Romantic Rose wrote: »

Yes I have great empathy for innocent little children who are weaned onto junk. I am in a position to see what parents put into children's lunch boxes and I think to myself, do you not care about your child and their health.

Nutrition and developing good diet habits early is an integral part of parenting.

Must be great being perfect is it Rose? Do you actually know how horrible you sound?

If you're in a position to see what parents put into their childrens lunch boxes I presume you're in a school or something in which case you're not doing your job very well as any school my children ever went to did not allow junk food in lunch boxes.

29-09-2017 02:47PM

Wibbs wrote: »

It is indeed. Personally I would have less sympathy for men who get fat and then own about it. Now I'm not talking about people who are properly obese. IMHO that's more of an actual emotional/psychological illness coming out as weight gain. I mean the guys who are a bit porky, soft around the middle, let themselves go sorta thing. Men have fewer excuses for gaining such weight. We have way more testosterone than women and that hormone builds lean tissue and "burns" fat(in the days when they had eunuchs one of the most obvious signs was weight gain). We have more of that lean tissue and less fatty tissue than women and our hormone profiles don't vary nearly so much during life and we don't get pregnant.

Yeah there's too many possible things going on to make generalisations (though I still do make snap judgements :pac: ). I'm a lardarse, I'll do well for a few months then I'm back to struggling to get out of bed and being on the verge of tears when a song I know plays in the background of a TV show. :P Bit of food, no activity, back to square one. I'm well beyond soft around the middle and I know how I'd judge me if I met me. It's a pity but sure I think it's going on a decade since I can blame anyone but myself. :P

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:49PM

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Youre the one pontificating about spending hours meticulously planning, shopping and cooking meals for children.

While failing to mention that all this work has you knackered.

Part of my parcel of being a parent.

If I wanted an easy life, I could go to Iceland, load the freezer up and throw nutritionally dense chicken nuggets and chips at my children every day.

I'd rather not take the easy road.

I care about their health.

givyjoe · 29-09-2017 02:49PM

Romantic Rose wrote: »

Yes I have great empathy for innocent little children who are weaned onto junk. I am in a position to see what parents put into children's lunch boxes and I think to myself, do you not care about your child and their health.

Nutrition and developing good diet habits early is an integral part of parenting.

Are you a teacher..? Do you go around each student and meticulously inspect what is in their lunchbox..?!

Diet and good habits are important. So is teaching your child not to be judgmental and condescending towards others.

Nettle Soup · 29-09-2017 02:52PM

Romantic Rose wrote: »

Of course I am.

Feeding a little child plates of junk on a regular basis is disgusting and will give them poor health in the future.

It's true. The damage caused during childhood is extremely hard to rectify.
Children obese during childhood will likely be obese during adulthood.

It boggles me that most parents choose to ignore the dangers.

SusieBlue · 29-09-2017 02:52PM

Romantic Rose wrote: »

Part of my parcel of being a parent.

If I wanted an easy life, I could go to Iceland, load the freezer up and throw nutritionally dense chicken nuggets and chips at my children every day.

I'd rather not take the easy road.

I care about their health.

What would be your suggestion for someone like my brother, who has autism and will only eat white solid foods, and will gag, vomit and have a meltdown if food of another colour (aka fruit, veg, and any meat besides chicken) goes near his plate?

I take it if you saw his daily diet you'd be straight on to social services?

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:53PM

pilly wrote: »

Must be great being perfect is it Rose? Do you actually know how horrible you sound?

If you're in a position to see what parents put into their childrens lunch boxes I presume you're in a school or something in which case you're not doing your job very well as any school my children ever went to did not allow junk food in lunch boxes.

Not every school is strict about food unfortunately.

I have been in schools that did spot checks on lunch boxes and others who didn't.

How am I horrible, when all I'm pointing out is that I see extremely lazy parents every single day giving their children food that is high in salt and sugar, has zero nutrition.

Children who have rotten teeth and poor health. The poor innocent children. The parents should be ashamed of themselves but they're not.

It has become to common to feed a child so badly.

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AnneFrank · 29-09-2017 02:54PM

osarusan wrote: »

The 'it's because they eat too much' argument only goes so far though. It is always true but that doesn't mean it's always illuminating.

how bizzare.
It's true, accept it.

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:55PM

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Arent you great?

Do you pat yourself on the back and tell yourself how great you are every day?

Of course I do. I'm proud that I care so much about my children and their health that I get up off my fit backside and cook for them.

Nettle Soup · 29-09-2017 02:55PM

I don't understand why Rose is being targeted here. It's unseemly. Can someone explain?
Does the truth hurt?

whoopsadoodles · 29-09-2017 02:56PM

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Arent you great?

Do you pat yourself on the back and tell yourself how great you are every day?

Actually she is pretty great. She shouldn't be though, it should be fairly standard.

Children's health and wellbeing should be parents number one priority but it seems for many that's not the case.

Why is it normal/OK to be obese in Ireland?.

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