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dxhound2005 · 20-09-2017 06:13PM

Blanco100 wrote: »

How many jobs are there in Mayo?

Investment, playing population, every game at croker are points people always use to point to a dubs advantage.

The massive advantage to me is that they have everything in close proximity to them. Those that work can be at training in the evenings probably 20 minutes from home. And comfortably in their own bed at night.

The amount of lads travelling 200km round trips and more 3 nights a week to train with club/county is the real divider. The fact that alot of county players from all provinces work in Dublin makes it harder for them to have a balanced life.

Louth players don't have far to travel, so they enjoy the same advantage as Dublin. Hasn't produced the same results for some reason. How do all the players get jobs which free them up for evening training, when so much of the economy is concentrated outside the 9 to 5 window?

Ol' Donie · 20-09-2017 06:20PM

I'm sorry, poor old Jimmy RIP, but jesus this is boring radio. Even the guys talking seem to be bored.

yosser hughes · 20-09-2017 06:25PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

I'm sorry, poor old Jimmy RIP, but jesus this is boring radio. Even the guys talking seem to be bored.

I agree. RIP and all that but I wasn't a fan of Jimmy Magee and I don't really get the lionising of certain people.
I'll be switching off now. I can't listen to Joe anyway

Jayesdiem · 20-09-2017 07:10PM

Blasphemy lads. Jimmy was in a different class.

Lt Dan · 20-09-2017 07:31PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Wednesday Night Rugby.

Three words I f*ckin hate.*

*obviously I don't hate them but rugby talk on the radio just bores me to tears.

Have they got homoerotic yet?. Gerry Thorny always gets hot and bothered

foxtrot101 · 20-09-2017 07:37PM

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Blasphemy lads. Jimmy was in a different class.

As a boxing and cycling commentator, yes . As a football commentator he was head wrecking though.

JoeA3 · 20-09-2017 07:46PM

foxtrot101 wrote: »

As a boxing and cycling commentator, yes . As a football commentator he was head wrecking though.

Except on this occasion perhaps?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_syaDEXPn3Q

foxtrot101 · 20-09-2017 07:54PM

I'll give you that one alright, that was different class, but when he was the main international team commentator his flights of fancy would drive you mad.

Ursus Horribilis · 20-09-2017 08:08PM

At least we never knew what Jimmy's thoughts on the politics of the day were.

PeterTheNinth · 20-09-2017 08:31PM

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

At least we never knew what Jimmy's thoughts on the politics of the day were.

Tonight on the football show... A white male coach, accused of inappropriate behaviour, and racism.

Or as Joe Molloy calls it....

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foxtrot101 · 20-09-2017 08:37PM

Yes, and that story would have been covered by OTB at any stage over the past decade. I think it would have been covered better before, but it would of been covered.

ballsymchugh · 20-09-2017 08:40PM

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

At least we never knew what Jimmy's thoughts on the politics of the day were.

famously, Jimmy had no time for nonsense. he told a story about how daft it was that when commentating on a fight, they were only allowed to mention the colour of the shorts to identify them and not the colour of their skin.

PeterTheNinth · 20-09-2017 09:10PM

ballsymchugh wrote: »

famously, Jimmy had no time for nonsense. .

Now that you mention it, I can across this bizarre video a while back (when there was talk about a Collins vs Benn rematch)...

http://www.rte.ie/archives/2016/0512/787992-steve-collins-and-nigel-benn-fight/

Benn arrives 90 minutes late for the press conference for the fight, and Colm Murray and Jimmy Magee take are not too happy.

Hard to believe that both Jimmy and Colm are both dead, and Nigel Benn is still looking for a fight.

Tell me how · 20-09-2017 09:13PM

Jayesdiem wrote:

Tangentially the misunderstanding reminds me of Kathryn Thomas asking the "Great Irish Public" to vote (on some show), merely parroting the term "Great British Public" which we often hear on Great Britain TV. Nobody thought to tell Kathryn that our country is not known as 'Great Ireland' and in Britain the term is not a descriptor, but a name.

How do you know she wasn't using it as a descriptor?

Jayesdiem · 20-09-2017 09:38PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Jayesdiem wrote:

Tangentially the misunderstanding reminds me of Kathryn Thomas asking the "Great Irish Public" to vote (on some show), merely parroting the term "Great British Public" which we often hear on Great Britain TV. Nobody thought to tell Kathryn that our country is not known as 'Great Ireland' and in Britain the term is not a descriptor, but a name.

How do you know she wasn't using it as a descriptor?

Because I do.

And because it's just one of those terms that is used so often, people start to misunderstand the real meaning.

Why didn't she say brilliant/excellent/fabulous Irish public then?

Tell me how · 20-09-2017 09:58PM

Jayesdiem wrote:

Because I do.

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought as much.

dxhound2005 · 20-09-2017 10:01PM

I always understood it to refer to a great number, as in that other phrase The Great Unwashed.

And it is certainly not confined to references to the British public. A quick Google finds references to the Great American Public and The Great Australian Public.

Jayesdiem · 20-09-2017 10:18PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I always understood it to refer to a great number, as in that other phrase The Great Unwashed.

And it is certainly not confined to references to the British public. A quick Google finds references to the Great American Public and The Great Australian Public.

In Britain's case, historically I assume it refers literally to its "greatness". Might be wrong on that though. My Google brings up no such references relating to America and Australia. Lads, I still reckon Kathrine Thomas was using it in ignorance. "Great Irish Public"? Maybe she didn't capitalise the word 'great'. Can anyone confirm or deny this speculation?

Jayesdiem · 20-09-2017 10:19PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Jayesdiem wrote:

Because I do.

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought as much.

Told you how as it were

dxhound2005 · 20-09-2017 10:30PM

Jayesdiem wrote: »

In Britain's case, historically I assume it refers literally to its "greatness". Might be wrong on that though. My Google brings up no such references relating to America and Australia. Lads, I still reckon Kathrine Thomas was using it in ignorance. "Great Irish Public"? Maybe she didn't capitalise the word 'great'. Can anyone confirm or deny this speculation?

Put the exact phrase The Great Australian Public into Google Advanced Search.

Tell me how · 20-09-2017 10:37PM

Jayesdiem wrote:

Told you how as it were

One version anyway.

Ol' Donie · 20-09-2017 10:37PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Put the exact phrase The Great Australian Public into Google Advanced Search.

What's so good about them?

(I'm joking, of course, albeit in a non humourous way. However, I will say that as a rule I never google anything I'm told to on Boards.)

dxhound2005 · 20-09-2017 10:46PM

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/heres-the-proof-australians-prefer-the-facts-20140526-zrof1.html

Among many revelations, the study – carried out by the ANU’s Dr Suzette Searle – found that 71 per cent of respondents trusted scientists, but only 15 per cent trusted the politicians responsible for science, 14 per cent trusted shock jocks and 11 per cent trusted religious leaders. If nothing else, this suggests that a healthy scepticism is alive and kicking in the great Australian public.

foxtrot101 · 21-09-2017 03:32AM

dominatinMC wrote: »

I thought OTB didn't release their JNLR numbers. And it's not just the "tone of this thread", a lot of my friends have abandoned the show, and work colleagues frequently have a moan about OTB these days too. Maybe the JNLRs are still holding up (not sure how they're even measured) but there's no escaping the fact that the show isn't what it used to be.

Sorry, I missed this last night. Their JNLR's weren't known for a couple years, but someone posted them on this thread after the last round of a results came out. It was either 50,000, or 52,000...I can't remember which. That's more or less where they were when they took over.

Nobody was more surprised then me, I was sure there would be a big drop off. I'm no fan of the current line up and hardly listen to it anymore. Woody and Dan McDonnell brought a lot more to the show than Kevin Kilbane does.

Jayesdiem · 21-09-2017 06:33AM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/heres-the-proof-australians-prefer-the-facts-20140526-zrof1.html

Among many revelations, the study – carried out by the ANU’s Dr Suzette Searle – found that 71 per cent of respondents trusted scientists, but only 15 per cent trusted the politicians responsible for science, 14 per cent trusted shock jocks and 11 per cent trusted religious leaders. If nothing else, this suggests that a healthy scepticism is alive and kicking in the great Australian public.

That's all very well hound but how can you prove whoever wrote this is not doing a Kathrine Thomas on it and misusing 'great'? The small 'g' and the relative lack of examples on line certainly support that assertion.

dxhound2005 · 21-09-2017 07:17AM

My point of reference would be the phrase The Great Unwashed. Your interpretation would mean that the unwashed are lovely fantastic people. I understand it to mean a great number. There are plenty of references to the phrase in Australia.

https://shop.abc.net.au/products/human-nature-jukebox-and-gimmie-some-lovin-jukebox-ll-collectors-edition-2cd

Human Nature have earned their place as one of the world’s finest pop vocal groups of the modern era. Human Nature arrived into the lives of the great Australian public in 1996. Since then they have become known around the globe for their distinctive harmonies and stellar live shows. Human Nature have ridden a wave to the top of the charts, initially at home, and have subsequently won fans all over the planet.

Jayesdiem · 21-09-2017 10:33AM

No you're misunderstanding me. Great has a few meanings obviously. It's fairly obvious that in the cases of 'Great Britain' and 'the great unwashed' it means different things.

pc7 · 21-09-2017 11:16AM

Does it matter what Katherine says! Way off topic here.

Raoul · 21-09-2017 11:47AM

Joe was wrecking my head last night. He is one of these people that really make sure to pronounce the "h" in Thomas even though it shouldn't be. I know that sounds pedantic but it is because he can be such an insufferable arsehole that it really grated on me.

dominatinMC · 21-09-2017 12:45PM

Raoul wrote: »

Joe was wrecking my head last night. He is one of these people that really make sure to pronounce the "h" in Thomas even though it shouldn't be. I know that sounds pedantic but it is because he can be such an insufferable arsehole that it really grated on me.

Joe in a nut shell.

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