Isn't multiculturalism great...

13-09-2017 07:33PM

Brian? wrote: »

You're bending over backwards to be offended.

I derided extreme Catholics, not all Catholics. They're a horror bunch, but they're home grown so they get a pass from those decrying the misogyny of Muslims.

Clearly, some Muslims are complete gowlbags. But let's avoid generalisation shall we.

I'm not offended.

Merely pointing out the hypocrisy of deriding free speech, while using that same free speech to deride Catholics, and equate their beliefs with Muslim beliefs, which are markedly different, together with a marked lack of acknowledgement of other extreme right-wing groups. After all, there aren't too many extreme right wing Catholics in Ireland, and making the same comment about right wing Hindus/Buddhists/Sikhs/Protestants/Evangelicals/Atheists would spark an immediate backlash, if only about any attempt to deny them the right to free speech.

It's as if the all the ills in the Country were exclusively caused by Catholics - which is ridiculous - so I decided to debate the point.

No offense necessary.

Spider Web · 13-09-2017 08:10PM

Malayalam wrote: »

I stopped following this thread when it broke down into the usual divisive ruckus between the one's who damn everything to do with Islam and Muslims, and the one's who smugly dismiss people with any reservations about modern Islam as racists and Islamaphobes.

dav3 wrote: »

Whoa, whoa there sockpuppet, calm yourself. When did this happen?

This is a thread about the OP having a lovely day out with different nationalities and cultures, nothing more.

Well anything is what someone wants it to be when they take it out of context/omit the rest of the substantial paragraph that it's part of.

OnDraught · 13-09-2017 08:43PM

FraR wrote: »

Hearing what's in the news there at the moment, no thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hmrbLIzLZs

That is certainly not in the news here in Sweden where I actually live. In fact none of the ****e the alt right keep spouting about Sweden is a concern for anyone here.

Have a think about why that is.

lazybones32 · 13-09-2017 09:29PM

OnDraught wrote: »

That is certainly not in the news here in Sweden where I actually live. In fact none of the ****e the alt right keep spouting about Sweden is a concern for anyone here.

Have a think about why that is.

Isn't there going to be a female-only festival in Sweden next year? Why's that?

OnDraught · 13-09-2017 09:34PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

Isn't there going to be a female-only festival in Sweden next year? Why's that?

Because men are bastards.

Really Interested · 13-09-2017 09:38PM

OnDraught wrote: »

Because men are bastards.

https://www.google.ie/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/swedish-music-festival-go-women-only-following-string-sexual/amp/

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2016/jul/06/swedish-festival-rapes-migrants-wrong-dangerous

You tell me why!

OnDraught · 13-09-2017 09:40PM

Really Interested wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/swedish-music-festival-go-women-only-following-string-sexual/amp/

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2016/jul/06/swedish-festival-rapes-migrants-wrong-dangerous

You tell me why!

What does that incident have to do with multiculturalism? Most of the suspects are believed to be white Swedes.

Really Interested · 13-09-2017 09:41PM

OnDraught wrote: »

What does that incident have to do with multiculturalism? Most of the suspects are believed to be white Swedes.

Ask Lazybones32

BalcombeSt4 · 13-09-2017 09:42PM

Yes, it is great. Without it the Irish would not have the influence they have in America & Britain and would probably be as poor as East European countries like Romania or Albania.

Plus I like to learn about different cultures brought into to this country.

Sweetemotion · 13-09-2017 09:44PM

OnDraught wrote: »

Because men are bastards.

Sweden in nutshell.

OnDraught · 13-09-2017 10:16PM

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Sweden in nutshell.

No women committed any sexual assaults at the festival.

lazybones32 · 13-09-2017 10:33PM

OnDraught wrote: »

Because men are bastards.

Then you are in the right country...stay there.

Benjamin Buttons · 13-09-2017 10:34PM

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

These Benetton ads are getting really obscure...

Hans Bricks wrote: »

So ... the OP had a dream that he was apart of a United Colors of Benetton advert shot in Kerry ?

Hans, the post above yours was #12 on this thread, so you're a little slow out of the blocks with the old Benetton ad thingy. Never mind, have another go.

OnDraught · 13-09-2017 10:37PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

Then you are in the right country...stay there.

Haha, someday you'll talk to a girl/foreigner/person outside of your bedroom in the big scary world and you'll be ok.

Sweetemotion · 13-09-2017 10:39PM

OnDraught wrote: »

Haha, someday you'll talk to a girl/foreigner/person outside of your bedroom in the big scary world and you'll be ok.

I'm pretty sure he will do just fine. You on the other hand.

OnDraught · 13-09-2017 10:43PM

Sweetemotion wrote: »

I'm pretty sure he will do just fine. You on the other hand.

I'm grand. Just came on here to point out that the nonsense being reported by the altright media regarding Sweden is false.

Sweetemotion · 13-09-2017 10:47PM

OnDraught wrote: »

I'm grand. Just came on here to point out that the nonsense being reported by the altright media regarding Sweden is false.

Sure it is.

14-09-2017 10:23AM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Yes, it is great. Without it the Irish would not have the influence they have in America & Britain

Huh? explain pls.

and would probably be as poor as East European countries like Romania or Albania.

Could you explain this too? [I assume you've decided that Multiculturalism caused this difference....?]

(I'm fairly sure it was entry into the EEC and the heaps of funding/investment that Ireland got from them)

Plus I like to learn about different cultures brought into to this country.

I'm noticing a lot of foreigners and a few "Asian" shops but I'm not seeing much actual culture brought into Ireland. Isn't there a Chinatown in Dublin? Was there a large party for Spring Festival? Or other displays of foreign cultures taking root in Ireland? [Apart from the obvious cultural/religious clothing]

The_Kew_Tour · 14-09-2017 10:25AM

OnDraught wrote: »

I'm grand. Just came on here to point out that the nonsense being reported by the altright media regarding Sweden is false.

Course it is

Hans Bricks · 14-09-2017 10:40AM

Benjamin Buttons wrote: »

Hans, the post above yours was #12 on this thread, so you're a little slow out of the blocks with the old Benetton ad thingy. Never mind, have another go.

I only encounered this thread yesterday evening. Perhaps have a gawk at the time frame between both comments ?

Apologies for my inability to time travel backwards to five days ago before post #12 was made. I didn't realise there was a rat race to get jokes in.

biko · 14-09-2017 10:56AM

OnDraught wrote: »

No women committed any sexual assaults at the festival.

Are you assuming their gender?

jmayo · 14-09-2017 10:56AM

Brian? wrote: »

There's this thing called the internet horse, it has all manner of useful information on it. It's where I read about the crisis in male sex drive in Japan. It was on a little known, niche site called BBC.co.uk. It's foreign, so you may not have heard of it. One doesn't need to be omnipotent to come across these things.
...
And there we go back to the Muslim slagging.

Perish the thought one would slag an ideology and it's believers that currently in some fashion condones and quite often actually fosters the forced marriage of rape victims to their rapist, the stoning of women, the murder of homosexuals, the subjugation and discrimination of women and girls, and in some circles the slaughter of innocent non believers.

I also notice you have no problem slagging off other religions and it's adherents.

OnDraught wrote: »

Because men are bastards.

Now could you remind us when it was first really noticed that men were bastards in Sweden.

I don't ever recall there being female only events when Abba were in their hay day.

Benjamin Buttons · 14-09-2017 11:19AM

Hans Bricks wrote: »

I only encounered this thread yesterday evening. Perhaps have a gawk at the time frame between both comments ?

Apologies for my inability to time travel backwards to five days ago before post #12 was made. I didn't realise there was a rat race to get jokes in.

Rather than travel backwards in time, you could instead read 'forward in time' from the beginning of the thread.
'Rat race' might be a bit strong, though I think you'll agree that there is at times something of a rush at the beginning of some threads to be first in with the most obvious joke or pun. You'll even have posters saying/admitting: 'You got there before me'' or such like.
Never mind, maybe a bit quicker out of the blocks next time eh!

Spider Web · 14-09-2017 11:27AM

Benjamin Buttons wrote: »

Rather than travel backwards in time, you could instead read 'forward in time' from the beginning of the thread.
'Rat race' might be a bit strong, though I think you'll agree that there is at times something of a rush at the beginning of some threads to be first in with the most obvious joke or pun. You'll even have posters saying/admitting: 'You got there before me'' or such like.
Never mind, maybe a bit quicker out of the blocks next time eh!

What's the sneering in aid of? Makes you look a lot worse than a person who had the utter "nerve" to make a similar joke to one that was posted hundreds of posts and a number of days earlier.

biko · 14-09-2017 11:41AM

OnDraught wrote: »

That is certainly not in the news here in Sweden where I actually live. In fact none of the ****e the alt right keep spouting about Sweden is a concern for anyone here.

Have a think about why that is.

Can you explain please why support for the immigration-restrictive Sweden Democrats have risen from only a few percent to now being the second largest party in Sweden?

Tbh, maybe these things are not discussed in the papers or circles you read or move in, but they are certainly discussed.

Benjamin Buttons · 14-09-2017 11:48AM

Spider Web wrote: »

What's the sneering in aid of? Makes you look a lot worse than a person who had the utter "nerve" to make a similar joke to one that was posted hundreds of posts and a number of days earlier.

The 'sneering' started with the hoary old 'Benetton ad' dig.
A dig at the OP and the idea posited in the thread title.
So why was 'Hans' sneering?
You'll have to ask him, though I suspect that he doesn't believe multiculturalism to be a fabarooney idea and thought therefore that a reference to Benetton might be humourous and apposite in the circumstances.
But be assured, he started the sneering.

Shenshen · 14-09-2017 11:51AM

dav3 wrote: »

Whoa, whoa there sockpuppet, calm yourself. When did this happen?

This is a thread about the OP having a lovely day out with different nationalities and cultures, nothing more.

Well, yes, but you know that the moment you type the words multi-cultural, or Immigration, a sizeable (or possibly actually just a very small but loud, I'm not even that sure) number of posters will read "Islam" and "Sharia".

So even though only one person in the OP may possibly be a Muslim, this is what the discussion will center around.

Hector Savage · 14-09-2017 11:56AM

RayM wrote: »

I used to dislike the GAA, but then rugby became inexplicably popular in this country, and I found a far more deserving target for my hatred.

+1.
I'm still not too fond of the GAA football, but Hurling is a fantastic skilled game.
As for multiculturalism - well in theory it should work great, and OPs post shows a nice example.

But I am concerned about the nature of Islam and it's intolerance of any criticism - as mentioned it needs to be slow and gradual rather than sudden.
And will the next generation feel Irish ? - this is the true test of integration.

14-09-2017 12:07PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

+1.
But I am concerned about the nature of Islam and it's intolerance of any criticism - as mentioned it needs to be slow and gradual rather than sudden.
And will the next generation feel Irish ? - this is the true test of integration.

I'm more concerned about the intolerance of non-muslims regarding any criticism of Islam (religion) or Islamic culture..

Hector Savage · 14-09-2017 12:15PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm more concerned about the intolerance of non-muslims regarding any criticism of Islam (religion) or Islamic culture..

Absolutely, this taking offense on behalf of others, ridiculous.

Isn't multiculturalism great...

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