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Isn't multiculturalism great...

  • 09-09-2017 7:46pm
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    ...today I brought my daughter to the playground to meet Slovakian friends with their kids. Also met my cousin and his African partner and their little daughter. After that, I went to my Turkish Muslim barber and to her delight he produced a lollipop.

    And I thought, she'll grow up experiencing diversity and cultures that I could only dream of when I was a child in white Catholic Ireland in the late '70s and '80s. And it felt good.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭Sue Pa Key Pa


    Careful Now!

    Of course diversity is great. Nice to hear you had a good day too with your daughter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Hihihi

    And yes, agreed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Without a doubt, YES.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    No it's not. Multiculturalism doesn't work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    No it's not. Multiculturalism doesn't work.

    Well at least today in Conors little pocket it seems to have worked just fine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Just keep her away from those Protestants!

    Only joking folks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Works grand for me anyway. I'm foreign, my missus is foreign, most people in our area are foreign and everyone seems to get on.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    I met someone from Cavan yesterday. It's gone too far, I say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭marcus001


    Whiteness is a sin after all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    No it's not. Multiculturalism doesn't work.

    tenor.gif


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Biggest lickspittle on boardz


    ...today I brought my daughter to the playground to meet Slovakian friends with their kids. Also met my cousin and his African partner and their little daughter. After that, I went to my Turkish Muslim barber and to her delight he produced a lollipop.

    And I thought, she'll grow up experiencing diversity and cultures that I could only dream of when I was a child in white Catholic Ireland in the late '70s and '80s. And it felt good.


    These Benetton ads are getting really obscure...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    No it's not. Multiculturalism doesn't work.

    Of course it does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup



    And I thought, she'll grow up experiencing diversity and cultures that I could only dream of when I was a child in white Catholic Ireland in the late '70s and '80s. And it felt good.

    yep, sure is a welcome change to those insular narrow-minded times


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    It's neither a good or a bad thing it just is what it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭bluewizard


    Well I'm "multicultural" - go ahead, tell me what's your problem with me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    bluewizard wrote: »
    Well I'm "multicultural" - go ahead, tell me what's your problem with me.

    We dislike smurfs who are wizards :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    ...today I brought my daughter to the playground to meet Slovakian friends with their kids. Also met my cousin and his African partner and their little daughter. After that, I went to my Turkish Muslim barber and to her delight he produced a lollipop.

    And I thought, she'll grow up experiencing diversity and cultures that I could only dream of when I was a child in white Catholic Ireland in the late '70s and '80s. And it felt good.


    You met your mates and got a haircut. Nice.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Depends...

    My daughters got to meet a lovely man who kicked his daughters pram out of the lift that we were standing in. His poor wife who had her hijab on was almost sent flying on her arse as she was attempting to get into the lift as well. He shouted some sort of obscenities at her and she stepped back immediately. There was plenty of room for us all in the lift so he had no reason to stop her from getting in.

    I'm not pushed on my daughters being around people like that who have no respect for women.

    Mind you there is a good mix of kids in my daughters school and every year they do an international week where they learn about other countries food, culture and traditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    ...today I brought my daughter to the playground to meet Slovakian friends with their kids. Also met my cousin and his African partner and their little daughter. After that, I went to my Turkish Muslim barber and to her delight he produced a lollipop.

    And I thought, she'll grow up experiencing diversity and cultures that I could only dream of when I was a child in white Catholic Ireland in the late '70s and '80s. And it felt good.

    Why did you only mention the Turkish barbers religion and not everyone else's?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    No it's not. Multiculturalism doesn't work.

    Yes it does. See it's that easy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭marcus001


    It's neither a good or a bad thing it just is what it is.

    Nah, there were too many Irish people around. Ireland is now better because you meet fewer and fewer Irish people in daily life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭bluewizard


    We dislike smurfs who are wizards :pac:
    I'm not a smurf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    ...today I brought my daughter to the playground to meet Slovakian friends with their kids. Also met my cousin and his African partner and their little daughter. After that, I went to my Turkish Muslim barber and to her delight he produced a lollipop.

    And I thought, she'll grow up experiencing diversity and cultures that I could only dream of when I was a child in white Catholic Ireland in the late '70s and '80s. And it felt good.


    Wow what a great person, I mean a non muslim irish barber has never done something like that for a child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭marcus001


    Seeing foreign people gives Conor a fussy feeling in his goolies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    bluewizard wrote: »
    I'm not a smurf.

    Next you'll tell me your not a wizard :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭Benjamin Buttons


    bluewizard wrote: »
    I'm not a smurf.

    Link?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Peregrine wrote: »
    I met someone from Cavan yesterday. It's gone too far, I say.

    That's too much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,292 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    This is only a temporary phase while all the different cultures are melted down. In future the only culture to survive will be Westernised plastic mass manufactured American pop consumerism culture.


    The only way future generations will be able to experience such a thing as multiculturalism is if we don't overindulge in it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,965 ✭✭✭gifted


    ...today I brought my daughter to the playground to meet Slovakian friends with their kids. Also met my cousin and his African partner and their little daughter. After that, I went to my Turkish Muslim barber and to her delight he produced a lollipop.

    And I thought, she'll grow up experiencing diversity and cultures that I could only dream of when I was a child in white Catholic Ireland in the late '70s and '80s. And it felt good.

    When I was a kid in the 70 and 80's I grew up dreaming of chocolate and sweets and days off school and being a soccer player.....never woke up after dreaming of diversity or culture...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Peregrine wrote: »
    I met someone from Cavan yesterday. It's gone too far, I say.

    I've nothing against people from Cavan, but they don't integrate and I've never heard them speak out against The Corrs.

    Edit: Actually, the Corrs are from Louth. Sorry, it's just that they all look the same to me. Anyway, my point still stands.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    If anything the opening post is a load of patronizing nonsense and is exactly the type of ****e that pisses people off about supposed "diversity". Praising someone who happens to be different for doing nothing more than the average born and raised irishman would do i.e be pleasant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    It's neither a good or a bad thing it just is what it is.

    oh its definitely a good thing we've become more sophisticated and cosmopolitan as a nation instead of the backward backwater that we use to be

    now if only we could get rid of the GAA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭marcus001


    If anything the opening post is a load of patronizing nonsense and is exactly the type of ****e that pisses people off about supposed "diversity". Praising someone who happens to be different for doing nothing more than the average born and raised irishman would do i.e be pleasant.

    It's the soft bigotry of low expectations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Hope multiculturalism is working out well also, in the one or two countries where women can't show their ankles

    On the flip side, it's done wonders for progressive Sweden, so successful they're barring men from their Bråvalla music Festival next year.

    It's a good thing, but like everything change is best done slow and steady, not fast and unexpected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    fryup wrote: »
    now if only we could get rid of the GAA

    "Seán Óg Ó hAilpín... his father’s from Fermanagh, his mother’s from Fiji. Neither a hurling stronghold"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭Benjamin Buttons


    fryup wrote: »
    oh its definitely a good thing we've become more sophisticated and cosmopolitan as a nation instead of the backward backwater that we use to be

    now if only we could get rid of the GAA

    NEVER NEVER NEVER


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    RayM wrote: »
    "Seán Óg Ó hAilpín... his father’s from Fermanagh, his mother’s from Fiji. Neither a hurling stronghold"

    ya but the organisation is insular and the sports are muck (imo)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    fryup wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    ya but the organisation is insular and the sports are muck (imo)

    Anytime I've seen uploads of summer camps etc always seen loads of kids of any mix playing/participating in it?



    Hurling is generally regarded as the fastest field game in the world (But yes football is dung)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    fryup wrote: »
    oh its definitely a good thing we've become more sophisticated and cosmopolitan as a nation instead of the backward backwater that we use to be

    now if only we could get rid of the GAA


    The GAA is one of the best things about this country it's actually a version of multiculturalism itself in that it's an example of Irish culture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    This is only a temporary phase while all the different cultures are melted down. In future the only culture to survive will be Westernised plastic mass manufactured American pop consumerism culture

    The one that's massively influenced by African American, Hispanic, European and other cultures?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    fryup wrote: »
    ya but the organisation is insular and the sports are muck (imo)

    I used to dislike the GAA, but then rugby became inexplicably popular in this country, and I found a far more deserving target for my hatred.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Anytime I've seen uploads of summer camps etc always seen loads of kids of any mix playing/participating in it?



    Hurling is generally regarded as the fastest field game in the world (But yes football is dung)

    Football is a much much better sport, more participants, more people watching it's actually managed to get people playing it on an all ireland basis which is something the hurling lads have failed to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    Well at least today in Conors little pocket it seems to have worked just fine.
    Multiculturalism should not be confused with a society that is simply open minded and accepting to its communities or majorities. Multiculturalism is a dangerous component to forcing a culture to change. The idea itself is inherently good and rooted in philosophies that have undisputed reverence to the values of liberty and equality. However, reacting and instigating change must be done from both a situational perspective and an ethical one. Multiculturalism today, employed in Germany, the UK and France has ultimately failed.

    Source


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭marcus001


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    The one that's massively influenced by African American, Hispanic, European and other cultures?

    No, the one that is totally inorganic and manufactured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,292 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    The one that's massively influenced by African American, Hispanic, European and other cultures?

    A more pasteurised version of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    marcus001 wrote: »
    No, the one that is totally inorganic and manufactured.


    Louis Walsh :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    Multiculturalism should not be confused with a society that is simply open minded and accepting to its communities or majorities. Multiculturalism is a dangerous component to forcing a culture to change. The idea itself is inherently good and rooted in philosophies that have undisputed reverence to the values of liberty and equality. However, reacting and instigating change must be done from both a situational perspective and an ethical one. Multiculturalism today, employed in Germany, the UK and France has ultimately failed.

    You must visit these countries to see the dynamic changes that have taken place. Every culture exists because people have been raised with those customs, through history and humanity. There will always be dominant cultures that consciously or unconsciously make others a minority. So we see separate communities spring up, ghettoes created, additional rises in crime, and the eventual persecution of the parent culture of the nation in a web of contradicting morals, opinions and expectations.

    In Denmark/Sweden and several EU countries, women have been raped/harassed in public for not donning certain religious wear. Laws have been changed to accommodate certain militant aspects in particular religions. How can we claim to protect cultures and learn from them if we lose our own?

    What unity in our nation will we will have if we have no national identity? To be in another country is to respect it, and if one is to reside there, one must be aware of the customs. So the same must be said for western civilizations. We cannot forget the past, of Imperialism, but we cannot build our policies both public and foreign on guilt of past colonial aggressions.

    I value my country, my freedom and my fellow citizens, regardless of age, regardless of party and regardless of race. Together we have to come to fair terms with preserving our own culture without destroying the opportunities of others to find a better life. The current multicultural idea of just accepting anyone and everyone with only the hintest reference of learning english is unacceptable. Most people who support multiculturalism are suburban middle class to upper middle class individuals, who attend post secondary and live their lives shielded from the real causes of multiculturalism, who have never experienced real repression.

    For every offence against someone who is different, there is always a similar story occurring in their country where the values they believed were challenged. It is natural to be blinded by rhetoric, but the policies of certain governments will spell the end for our own culture within a decade. Islam will take over.

    Where did you cut and paste that from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I thought this thread was all going to be about little feel good stories, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Academic


    Hope multiculturalism is working out well also, in the one or two countries where women can't show their ankles

    On the flip side, it's done wonders for progressive Sweden, so successful they're barring men from their Bråvalla music Festival next year.

    [...]

    I think it was pretty clear in the original post that he or she is talking about multiculturalism in Ireland.


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