Can't wait for the Super 8's

LeinsterDub · 12-09-2017 10:21am

Same As wrote: »

Not sure if this has been clarified already or not but wrt Dublin in Super 8's, will they have 2x games in Croke Park (1x 'Home' game, and 1x 'Croker' game) and 1 away game?

You would assume so given Dublin don't have a large enough ground. Other counties may be in the same boat if they get there too.

Same As · 12-09-2017 10:29am

LeinsterDub wrote: »

You would assume so given Dublin don't have a large enough ground. Other counties may be in the same boat if they get there too.

Thanks for that, just wasn't sure what the situation was regarding their home games for these fixtures, couldn't see the GAA forcing them to use Parnell Park when there's €€€ to be made.

Hammar · 12-09-2017 10:33am

LeinsterDub wrote: »

You would assume so given Dublin don't have a large enough ground. Other counties may be in the same boat if they get there too.

You can be guaranteed,there will be war over that,next year,especially with the Dubs probably going for 4 in a row. Not the Dubs fault.

LeinsterDub · 12-09-2017 10:38am

Same As wrote: »

Thanks for that, just wasn't sure what the situation was regarding their home games for these fixtures, couldn't see the GAA forcing them to use Parnell Park when there's €€€ to be made.

It's not all about the money. You might have 82,300 people who want to see the game and Parnell Park will only hold 10,000. That's less than the number of seasons tickets holders if I recall correctly.

Same As · 12-09-2017 10:43am

LeinsterDub wrote: »

It's not all about the money. You might have 82,300 people who want to see the game and Parnell Park will only hold 10,000. That's less than the number of seasons tickets holders if I recall correctly.

Didn't realise that PP only holds 10k.

OldMrBrennan83 · 12-09-2017 10:56am

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Same As · 12-09-2017 10:58am

I'm trying to be objective tbh, deciding whether or not the Super 8's bring any better value wrt purchasing a seat.

Shurimgreat · 12-09-2017 11:44am

I thought the Super 8s would liven up the championship, but having seen the dominance of Dublin this year, it will be a case of more of the same. Its a band-aid that does nothing to address bigger issues, such as the majority of counties who have no hope of coming near to winning an AI.

The same kind of significant help and financial aid given to Dublin in the early 2000s and recently now has to be given to the other counties in Leinster to restore some kind of credibility to the joke that is the Leinster Championship.

Watching Dublin win everything every year is boring as f**k for everyone else. I don't think I could stomach another charisma-free Stephen Cluxton speech.

OldMrBrennan83 · 12-09-2017 11:53am

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Shurimgreat · 12-09-2017 11:59am

Patww79 wrote: »

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Just one it would be nice if a single Dublin supporter would hold their hands up and admit they have every possible advantage in terms of population, resources, funding, development funding, close proximity of players for training, etc.

I'd love to believe Dublin produces natural footballers like Kerry does for example. They don't. They take a lot of young footballers, train them to a high level through the use of unlimited resources and coaches, then weed out the average players and turn the remainder into professionals in all but name.

It has produced a one sided championship. The traditional cycles in gaelic football of good teams coming and falling away has been broken by Dublin and the GAA through massive investment in that county.

They've successfully killed off what used to be a competitive sport where a number of counties had a chance of winning an AI. If you want to know how to take the competitiveness out of a sport, you only have to follow what the GAA have done in a relatively short space of time.

OldMrBrennan83 · 12-09-2017 12:03pm

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Shurimgreat · 12-09-2017 12:07pm

Patww79 wrote: »

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A not very mature response but to be expected I suppose.

There is no crying going on. There is a lament though for the sport of gaelic football in general, something the Dublin bandwagoners care little for so long as they are winning everything.

Like I said the GAA have killed the sport. Most neutrals would be interested in reviving it, particularly the Leinster championship. Most Dubliners couldn't give a sh*t though. So long as the bandwagon is rolling. Their response is always the same.

When you mention the evening up of financial resources, Dublin supporters have a fit and say stuff like "yeh will look at your own doorstep first".

Shurimgreat · 12-09-2017 12:15pm

Very hard to compete against this.

Not for the first time the GAA has found itself defending an apparent bias in funding towards Dublin. Figures released in the 2014 financial report show that Dublin received €1.46 million for games development – more than the other 31 counties combined.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/dublin-claiming-the-bulk-of-gaa-s-development-funds-1.2091641

Crash Bang Wall · 12-09-2017 1:16pm

Same As wrote: »

Not sure if this has been clarified already or not but wrt Dublin in Super 8's, will they have 2x games in Croke Park (1x 'Home' game, and 1x 'Croker' game) and 1 away game?

Dublins Home Pitch is Parnell Park, so there should be 1 game there. Its not much smaller, if it is smaller than some County grounds

BonnieSituation · 12-09-2017 1:32pm

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Very hard to compete against this.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/dublin-claiming-the-bulk-of-gaa-s-development-funds-1.2091641

Split us into 31 so

LeinsterDub · 12-09-2017 2:01pm

Shurimgreat wrote: »

It has produced a one sided championship. The traditional cycles in gaelic football of good teams coming and falling away has been broken by Dublin and the GAA through massive investment in that county.

They've successfully killed off what used to be a competitive sport where a number of counties had a chance of winning an AI.

You remember the late 70's and early 80's ? 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1984, 1985, 1986

Same As · 12-09-2017 2:01pm

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

Dublins Home Pitch is Parnell Park, so there should be 1 game there. Its not much smaller, if it is smaller than some County grounds

Apparently the capacity is 13,500 according to Wikipedia, not sure how accurate that is however.

Interesting question, just wondering what is likely to play out for Dublin home games.

LeinsterDub · 12-09-2017 2:03pm

Shurimgreat wrote: »

When you mention the evening up of financial resources

How would you achieve this evening up?

Rockfish · 12-09-2017 2:35pm

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

Dublins Home Pitch is Parnell Park, so there should be 1 game there. Its not much smaller, if it is smaller than some County grounds

Nonsense. Only a very small number of county grounds have smaller capacities and in such cases the home county should have the option of nominating a bigger stadium for their 'home' game.

LeinsterDub · 12-09-2017 3:02pm

Same As wrote: »

Apparently the capacity is 13,500 according to Wikipedia, not sure how accurate that is however.

Interesting question, just wondering what is likely to play out for Dublin home games.

It's out of date it's down to 10 k due to health and safety

Crash Bang Wall · 13-09-2017 10:56am

Dublin GAA should spend some of all that GAA money upgrading it so

LeinsterDub · 13-09-2017 11:00am

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

Dublin GAA should spend some of all that GAA money upgrading it so

Waste of limited money.

Stoner · 13-09-2017 11:06am

Rockfish wrote:

Nonsense. Only a very small number of county grounds have smaller capacities and in such cases the home county should have the option of nominating a bigger stadium for their 'home' game.

I'd nominate Castlebar. Nice big stadium, hot water, good grub.
Have a great record there too.
The 250,000 Mayo people living in Dublin would get together and put us up for the night in their other houses.
Great spot.

Bit short on parking though.

blanch152 · 13-09-2017 11:15am

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

Dublin GAA should spend some of all that GAA money upgrading it so

Why?

The money is currently spent on the juvenile programmes, providing kids from 6 to 16 with the opportunity to play regular organised competition. Participation rates have soared in Dublin.

http://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions

54 competitions at U-12!!! Though there is some overlap. 10 or 11 divisions in both football and hurling at many age groups.

That is where the money goes and it is a much better way of spending money than the way that some other counties spend it on paying managers or building stadiums that will be used twice a year.

Coillte_Bhoy · 13-09-2017 1:32pm

Stoner wrote: »

I'd nominate Castlebar. Nice big stadium, hot water, good grub.
Have a great record there too.
The 250,000 Mayo people living in Dublin would get together and put us up for the night in their other houses.
Great spot.

Bit short on parking though.

One thing not lacking around MacHale Park is parking

Coillte_Bhoy · 13-09-2017 1:34pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Why?

The money is currently spent on the juvenile programmes, providing kids from 6 to 16 with the opportunity to play regular organised competition. Participation rates have soared in Dublin.

http://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions

54 competitions at U-12!!! Though there is some overlap. 10 or 11 divisions in both football and hurling at many age groups.

That is where the money goes and it is a much better way of spending money than the way that some other counties spend it on paying managers or building stadiums that will be used twice a year.

Go on then, what counties divert development coaching grant money into paying managers? Stop talking bs

blanch152 · 13-09-2017 5:32pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Go on then, what counties divert development coaching grant money into paying managers? Stop talking bs

Now where did I say that "counties divert development coaching grant money into paying managers"?

nice_guy80 · 13-09-2017 5:37pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Why?

The money is currently spent on the juvenile programmes, providing kids from 6 to 16 with the opportunity to play regular organised competition. Participation rates have soared in Dublin.

http://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions

54 competitions at U-12!!! Though there is some overlap. 10 or 11 divisions in both football and hurling at many age groups.

That is where the money goes and it is a much better way of spending money than the way that some other counties spend it on paying managers or building stadiums that will be used twice a year.

Dublin got a stadium for free
they just pay a bit of rent when they play there

LeinsterDub · 13-09-2017 10:14pm

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Dublin got a stadium for free
they just pay a bit of rent when they play there

Or in other terms Dublin will be paying for ever long after others have paid their stadium off and it's making a profit

nice_guy80 · 14-09-2017 8:04am

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Or in other terms Dublin will be paying for ever long after others have paid their stadium off and it's making a profit

they'll be a long time paying the 65 million Cork spent on their gaff. any crowd going to a game pays for the rent.

Dublin have not had to fund any major capital project.

they even got the National GAA training centre and gym built for them by the GAA

Can't wait for the Super 8's

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