High Noon with George Hook.

super_furry · 12-09-2017 09:51PM

Basal wrote: »

This country is gone crazy. Far right Christian Presenters on American talk stations say things every day like homosexuals should be put to death and no-one bats an eyelid

Good to see that Irish radio and the Irish audience holds itself to higher standards.

RustyNut · 12-09-2017 09:51PM

LordSutch wrote: »

That's for sure.

Hook had a whole lifetime of experiences to call upon in his ramblings, many of which were not confined to this little island, hence he brought in something that nobody else has on the airwaves here. He certainly has an amazing memory of old films, actors & actresses, politicians from the 40s, 50s, 60s, a great knowledge about many things from many spheres, from WWI to WWII, from Greta garbo to Marilyn Monroe, from Kennedy to Churchill, from Cuba & Casto, to the Moon landings, to anything & everything he had an opinion on ...

Not always PC, but at least he was outspoken & entertaining.

He'll be missed.

Its a pity his attitude to women were also from the 40s, 50s, 60s.....

LordSutch wrote: »

He'll be missed.

By some.

Obvious Otter · 12-09-2017 09:56PM

super_furry wrote: »

Good to see that Irish radio and the Irish audience holds itself to higher standards.

We don't have standards. We're at the mercy of snowflake faux outrage and the pc mob who want to sterilise debate on all issues.

If anything it shows the insecurity of these people. Why should society pander to their every need? George Hook didn't blame the victim.

Sleeper12 · 12-09-2017 09:56PM

The Specialist wrote:

Free speech is free speech, whether you find the content inspiring or insipid. There are no if's or buts - free speech can't exist with limitations of moral censorship.

I'll take censorship any day over hate speech

The Specialist · 12-09-2017 09:59PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I'll take censorship any day over hate speech

Ridiculous statement - you are content to be dictated to as to what you can or can't think/verbalise only to prevent people with views that offend you from speaking their opinion? Sounds like a boring world to me.

RustyNut · 12-09-2017 10:00PM

Obvious Otter wrote: »

George Hook didn't blame the victim.

Why did he use the word blame then?

PeterTheNinth · 12-09-2017 10:03PM

God all these people should be ashamed of themselves.. One says something grandiose and self righteous in criticism of George Hook on Twitter, then another one of the w*nkers retweets it on, then another, and then they all get in to a conversation about how great they both f**king are... Absolute t0ssers.. And these are the same people who would speak about kids bullying each other on social media.

super_furry · 12-09-2017 10:03PM

Obvious Otter wrote: »

George Hook didn't blame the victim.

Really? You're going to make me do this again.....

George Hook said this live on the radio: "Is there no blame now to the person who puts themselves in danger?"

Then he said this by way of apology: "I made comments about rape on the program which are totally inappropriate and unacceptable, and I should never have made them......."It was wrong of me to suggest that any blame could be attributed to those victims or that they bear any responsibility in the crimes committed against them."

And there are STILL people arguing here that he didn't blame rape victims for being raped.

Obvious Otter · 12-09-2017 10:06PM

RustyNut wrote: »

Why did he use the word blame then?

What he said was: "Is there no blame to the person who puts themselves in danger?". That is not a statement from Hook nor is he blaming the the victim for being raped. That is a question. That's the whole point of these shows to ask questions and dig deeper into these issues.

If you don't like what he says just turn him off. Why should the rest of us have to deal with this censorship of free speech becuase some people are wildly offended by a question?

PeterTheNinth · 12-09-2017 10:06PM

super_furry wrote: »

And there are STILL people arguing here that he didn't blame rape victims for being raped.

You know, when you are pretty much the only person on the radio who is prepared to say anything controversial or ask the difficult questions, it is going to happen that you occasionally mis-speak. He has already apologised for using the word blame, but because he is not an avid liberal like everybody at that station, the knives are out for him.

SEPT 23 1989 · 12-09-2017 10:07PM

mark my words Ivan will be next the chief sniveller will make sure of it

Obvious Otter · 12-09-2017 10:08PM

super_furry wrote: »

Really? You're going to make me do this again.....

George Hook said this live on the radio: "Is there no blame now to the person who puts themselves in danger?"

Then he said this by way of apology: "I made comments about rape on the program which are totally inappropriate and unacceptable, and I should never have made them......."It was wrong of me to suggest that any blame could be attributed to those victims or that they bear any responsibility in the crimes committed against them."

And there are STILL people arguing here that he didn't blame rape victims for being raped.

A question isn't a statement. He's apologising because people have took his question as blaming the victim, which it was not. How many times does this have to be explained?

Calhoun · 12-09-2017 10:08PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

It was a charity gig. She was in the studio on behalf of the charity

So what it doesn't excuse it, if you are going to make a stand on something out of principle you do so.

To show up plug a gig you playing regardless of where the funds are going and then leaving is basically a publicity stunt and the meaning behind it is lost.

Calhoun · 12-09-2017 10:11PM

The Specialist wrote: »

Ridiculous statement - you are content to be dictated to as to what you can or can't think/verbalise only to prevent people with views that offend you from speaking their opinion? Sounds like a boring world to me.

Its pretty much how the radical left operate, or what ever you want to call them but allot these days believe in censorship and control of thought.

RustyNut · 12-09-2017 10:12PM

Obvious Otter wrote: »

What he said was:

.

"It was wrong of me to suggest that any blame could be attributed to those victims or that bear any responsibility in the crimes committed against them .

super_furry · 12-09-2017 10:13PM

Obvious Otter wrote: »

A question isn't a statement. He's apologising because people have took his question as blaming the victim, which it was not. How many times does this have to be explained?

"It was wrong of me to suggest that any blame could be attributed to those victims."

reg114 · 12-09-2017 10:24PM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

You know, when you are pretty much the only person on the radio who is prepared to say anything controversial or ask the difficult questions, it is going to happen that you occasionally mis-speak. He has already apologised for using the word blame, but because he is not an avid liberal like everybody at that station, the knives are out for him.

"Mis-speak " ... ? No Hook knew exactly what he was expounding. In fact Hook is a very articulate orator always reminding me of an old school priest semonising from the pulpit. Hook did not mis-speak, Hook has form regarding women ,in fact listen to Coopers audio from a tv interview Hook did a couple of years ago where he tore strips off the woman presenter. Hook is old school in a dangerous way, because he embodies an antiquated agenda and emboldens those insecure enough to want to see the status quo maintained. That status quo sees zero women presenting on 98fm, fm 104 , Today fm, 4FM, Q102 and Nova from 7 am to 7 pm... Not a single woman.. Now there is something radically wrong here.

Sleeper12 · 12-09-2017 10:24PM

super_furry wrote:

Really? You're going to make me do this again.....

I gave up day's ago trying to explain. Hook himself admitted he blamed yet some insist they know hooks mind better than the man himself. The mind truly boggles

constitutionus · 12-09-2017 10:27PM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

God all these people should be ashamed of themselves.. One says something grandiose and self righteous in criticism of George Hook on Twitter, then another one of the w*nkers retweets it on, then another, and then they all get in to a conversation about how great they both f**king are... Absolute t0ssers.. And these are the same people who would speak about kids bullying each other on social media.

the only fuking idiots using twitter in this country ARE the media or those trying to break into it.

the rest of us are only au fait with it thanks to trump.

Sleeper12 · 12-09-2017 10:28PM

Obvious Otter wrote:

A question isn't a statement. He's apologising because people have took his question as blaming the victim, which it was not. How many times does this have to be explained?

A rhetorical question is a statement. The man himself has said that he blamed. I've no doubt he didn't mean to blame but he did and he accepts that. I've no doubt his daughters pointed out what he said

hotmail.com · 12-09-2017 10:31PM

PeterTheNinth wrote:

You know, when you are pretty much the only person on the radio who is prepared to say anything controversial or ask the difficult questions, it is going to happen that you occasionally mis-speak. He has already apologised for using the word blame, but because he is not an avid liberal like everybody at that station, the knives are out for him.

He's not some heroic journalist by suggesting that women are partly to blame for being raped. Is this the sort of controversy that gets you off?

He isn't even a good representative of the Conservative wing in Ireland which should have a say in the media.

rightgirl · 12-09-2017 10:35PM

it would be so awesome if they get tome dunne to replace hook if he goes,

Del.Monte · 12-09-2017 10:36PM

LordSutch wrote: »

That's for sure.

Hook had a whole lifetime of experiences to call upon in his ramblings, many of which were not confined to this little island, hence he brought in something that nobody else has on the airwaves here. He certainly has an amazing memory of old films, actors & actresses, politicians from the 40s, 50s, 60s, a great knowledge about many things from many spheres, from WWI to WWII, from Greta garbo to Marilyn Monroe, from Kennedy to Churchill, from Cuba & Casto, to the Moon landings, to anything & everything he had an opinion on ...

Not always PC, but at least he was outspoken & entertaining.

He'll be missed.

I forgive Hook for this faux pas, but last week he let himself down even more seriously when he didn't know where Belize was! As a fellow Anglophile I was appalled.

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jimmyw · 12-09-2017 11:00PM

Faugheen wrote: »

He'll be replaced by Sarah McInerney if anyone. Get Hook out, bring a woman in. Two birds, one stone as far as they're concerned.

You may well be right, god help us, I wont be listening anyway if so.

Cannon_fodder · 12-09-2017 11:05PM

Bye George, way past your sell by date, should've quit while you were slightly ahead on the 5-7pm show. True Dinosaur.

sligojoek · 12-09-2017 11:11PM

Ia there no blame to be attributed to a drunk person walking home against the traffic? The driver they meet might be sober and avoid them. They might be drunk as well and hit them by mistake. They might be a psycho who always wanted to knock someone down and see this as their opportunity. I'd be advising my sons and daughters to get a lift or a taxi home or not get that drunk in the first place.

The Rape of Lucretia · 12-09-2017 11:30PM

Scandalous if GH is forced from his job and shocking that there are so many snowflakes in Newstalk that are 'offended'. Really is lowest common denominator stuff, and a bad situation for free and intelligent discussion in this country.

The only silver lining, and in a way I would like if it happened, would be that if here were dismissed, he could come out openly and discuss the whole mess. The country could have a proper debate on mob mentality and political correctness gone absolutely off the charts, to the detriment of free expression and debate. He could state that his 'apology' was a stock one that he was hounded into in an attempt to hang on to his job, but that in reality it was nonsense, he believes what he says, is entitled to say it, and other should be adult enough to be able to hear it without going off the deep end.

I despair for this country sometimes. Really.

sligojoek · 12-09-2017 11:36PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Scandalous if GH is forced from his job and shocking that there are some many snowflakes in Newstalk that are 'offended'. Really is lowest common denominator stuff, and a bad situation for free and intelligent discussion in this country.

The only silver lining, and in a way I would like if it happened, would be that if here were dismissed, he could come out openly and discuss the whole mess. The country could have a proper debate on mob mentality and political correctness gone absolutely off the charts, to the detriment of free expression and debate. He could state that his 'apology' was a stock one that he was hounded into in an attempt to hang on to his job, but that in reality it was nonsense, he believes what he says, is entitled to say it, and other should be adult enough to be able to hear it without going off the depend.

I despair for this country sometimes. Really.

I hope it's not on the Ray Darcy show or the LLS

Basal · 12-09-2017 11:37PM

reg114 wrote: »

"Mis-speak " ... ? No Hook knew exactly what he was expounding. In fact Hook is a very articulate orator always reminding me of an old school priest semonising from the pulpit. Hook did not mis-speak, Hook has form regarding women ,in fact listen to Coopers audio from a tv interview Hook did a couple of years ago where he tore strips off the woman presenter. Hook is old school in a dangerous way, because he embodies an antiquated agenda and emboldens those insecure enough to want to see the status quo maintained. That status quo sees zero women presenting on 98fm, fm 104 , Today fm, 4FM, Q102 and Nova from 7 am to 7 pm... Not a single woman.. Now there is something radically wrong here.

The reason for the lack of women presenters is simple, they don't pull in the numbers, I mean most stations have tried, Today fm had 3 women on their daytime schedule when they launched so did Newstalk but they didn't interest the listeners.

Mancomb Seepgood · 12-09-2017 11:39PM

The Specialist wrote: »

Free speech is free speech, whether you find the content inspiring or insipid. There are no if's or buts - free speech can't exist with limitations of moral censorship.

The right of every citizen to freedom of speech does not equal the right to a prime slot on a national radio station.Free speech also has consequences-namely,the right of people who disagree with you to exercise their own right to freedom of speech.Something those who harp on about "generation snowflake" tend to forget.

I used to genuinely enjoy listening to George-he used to be genial and good fun,but he jumped the shark a long time ago.It's a shame things had to end this way but Newstalk are every bit as responsible for this as he is-introducing the worst aspects of American talk radio.

High Noon with George Hook.

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