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High Noon with George Hook.

kneemos

A full ten minutes to get to the Muslims,and now it's Rugby.Not much has changed.

Sounds in good form anyway.

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PeterTheNinth

super_furry wrote: »

And there are STILL people arguing here that he didn't blame rape victims for being raped.

You know, when you are pretty much the only person on the radio who is prepared to say anything controversial or ask the difficult questions, it is going to happen that you occasionally mis-speak. He has already apologised for using the word blame, but because he is not an avid liberal like everybody at that station, the knives are out for him.

Obvious Otter

RustyNut wrote: »

Why did he use the word blame then?

What he said was: "Is there no blame to the person who puts themselves in danger?". That is not a statement from Hook nor is he blaming the the victim for being raped. That is a question. That's the whole point of these shows to ask questions and dig deeper into these issues.

If you don't like what he says just turn him off. Why should the rest of us have to deal with this censorship of free speech becuase some people are wildly offended by a question?

super_furry

Obvious Otter wrote: »

George Hook didn't blame the victim.

Really? You're going to make me do this again.....

George Hook said this live on the radio: "Is there no blame now to the person who puts themselves in danger?"

Then he said this by way of apology: "I made comments about rape on the program which are totally inappropriate and unacceptable, and I should never have made them......."It was wrong of me to suggest that any blame could be attributed to those victims or that they bear any responsibility in the crimes committed against them."

And there are STILL people arguing here that he didn't blame rape victims for being raped.

PeterTheNinth

God all these people should be ashamed of themselves.. One says something grandiose and self righteous in criticism of George Hook on Twitter, then another one of the w*nkers retweets it on, then another, and then they all get in to a conversation about how great they both f**king are... Absolute t0ssers.. And these are the same people who would speak about kids bullying each other on social media.

RustyNut

Obvious Otter wrote: »

George Hook didn't blame the victim.

Why did he use the word blame then?

The Specialist

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I'll take censorship any day over hate speech

Ridiculous statement - you are content to be dictated to as to what you can or can't think/verbalise only to prevent people with views that offend you from speaking their opinion? Sounds like a boring world to me.

[Deleted User]

The Specialist wrote:

Free speech is free speech, whether you find the content inspiring or insipid. There are no if's or buts - free speech can't exist with limitations of moral censorship.

I'll take censorship any day over hate speech

Obvious Otter

super_furry wrote: »

Good to see that Irish radio and the Irish audience holds itself to higher standards.

We don't have standards. We're at the mercy of snowflake faux outrage and the pc mob who want to sterilise debate on all issues.

If anything it shows the insecurity of these people. Why should society pander to their every need? George Hook didn't blame the victim.

RustyNut

LordSutch wrote: »

That's for sure.

Hook had a whole lifetime of experiences to call upon in his ramblings, many of which were not confined to this little island, hence he brought in something that nobody else has on the airwaves here. He certainly has an amazing memory of old films, actors & actresses, politicians from the 40s, 50s, 60s, a great knowledge about many things from many spheres, from WWI to WWII, from Greta garbo to Marilyn Monroe, from Kennedy to Churchill, from Cuba & Casto, to the Moon landings, to anything & everything he had an opinion on ...

Not always PC, but at least he was outspoken & entertaining.

He'll be missed.

Its a pity his attitude to women were also from the 40s, 50s, 60s.....

LordSutch wrote: »

He'll be missed.

By some.

super_furry

Basal wrote: »

This country is gone crazy. Far right Christian Presenters on American talk stations say things every day like homosexuals should be put to death and no-one bats an eyelid

Good to see that Irish radio and the Irish audience holds itself to higher standards.

The Specialist

Sleeper12 wrote: »

You aspire to that?
I'm all for free speech but not hate speech

Free speech is free speech, whether you find the content inspiring or insipid. There are no if's or buts - free speech can't exist with limitations of moral censorship.

[Deleted User]

Basal wrote:

This country is gone crazy. Far right Christian Presenters on American talk stations say things every day like homosexuals should be put to death and no-one bats an eyelid

You aspire to that?
I'm all for free speech but not hate speech

LordSutch

Pinkman wrote: »

I expect his resignation tomorrow. I wonder will he do one more show and read it out at the end? The usual faked emotion he does with his voice might actually be real this time. In a way it'll be a shame to see him go. Always entertaining and unique on Irish radio.

That's for sure.

Hook had a whole lifetime of experiences to call upon in his ramblings, many of which were not confined to this little island, hence he brought in something that nobody else has on the airwaves here. He certainly has an amazing memory of old films, actors & actresses, politicians from the 40s, 50s, 60s, a great knowledge about many things from many spheres, from WWI to WWII, from Greta garbo to Marilyn Monroe, from Kennedy to Churchill, from Cuba & Casto, to the Moon landings, to anything & everything he had an opinion on ...

Not always PC, but at least he was outspoken & entertaining.

He'll be missed.

The Specialist

Basal wrote: »

This country is gone crazy. Far right Christian Presenters on American talk stations say things every day like homosexuals should be put to death and no-one bats an eyelid

It's not an issue exclusive to Ireland, it's affecting the whole world. We have a generation of soft minded ****ing idiots coming up.

Royal Legend

Basal wrote: »

This country is gone crazy. Far right Christian Presenters on American talk stations say things every day like homosexuals should be put to death and no-one bats an eyelid

There is one on newstalk saying much the same about a particular person or persons for the last two mornings, no outrage about that though :mad:

Basal

This country is gone crazy. Far right Christian Presenters on American talk stations say things every day like homosexuals should be put to death and no-one bats an eyelid

Royal Legend

Deedsie wrote: »

It was a stupid thing to say and a horrible thing to think or believe.

Ive been a fan of George for a good few years but as a cyclist ill not be upset if he gets **** canned. Sick of him demonising cyclists every week. I obey every rule of the road and stop at every light, never cycle on a footpath.

So it will be nice to no longer have to hear him nonsensically roar about "bloody cyclists"

Enjoy your retirement George. Careful on the roads chief

And do you no see other cyclists acting like dickheads? He is not aiming it at you, but at the clowns who do not obey rules of the road. get over yourself

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

It feels like nothing short of bullying at this stage. The man is in his mid seventies. He made a mistake. He has apologised for his mistake. Time to move on from it.

Talking on air for hours week in week out on an opinion show you are bound to say something wrong from time to time. Who hasn't made a mistake. The important thing is to learn from mistakes.

The way he is being ganged up on now by so many people is particularly nasty and ugly. I don't like it at all at all.

PeterTheNinth

There's a complete hyporcisy behind all of their on air staff. I dont for one second believe that Dil would live beside a halting site, or that Chris Donoghue (who always gives out about rent) really believes in social housing. Oh and I actually did an inventory of the PCs when I was in Newstalk over ten years ago and I found a copy of One Night In Paris on the hard drive of one of their presenters, which is sort of contradictory to his on air personality as he is so pious and self righteous you would think that it wouldn't be possible for him to masturbate.

Hypocrites the lot of them.

Royal Legend

constitutionus wrote: »

the more i think about the 20 letter signatories the more i cant help thinking "who the fuk do they think they are?"

its none of their damn business what he says on his show. his fuk ups are between him and management, not a bunch of jumped up prima donnas with wounded sensitivities .

that sort of thing is generally reserved for cases of gross misconduct amongst staff. where people who genuinely feel powerless feel the need to group together in order to approach managment. sexual assault , violence, bullying and the like

not bleeding witchunts by PC borg units upset by a bloody broadcast expressing an opinion in a half arsed fashion.

its probably the most sinister aspect of this affair to come to light so far.

The 20 should have the balls to publicly come out and state who they are

Political correctness has gone mad in this country, a 70 year old man is porbably going to get the sack over a comment that he has apologised for

what i would like to know is how is it another presenter on the same station has for the last two days wished someone dead and yet there is nothing about it? whats more Hook was commenting on something that happened outside of Ireland whereas this other person was hoping someone here in Ireland would be shot, in fact i am not sure if it was the same person over the two days or to different people. So Newstalk kick people for having an opinion, but inciting someone to be shot is ok. Go figure.

P.S. the same person started commenting on the Garda Commisioner earlier in the week and also on who should and should not be the next GC, yet this person has been involved in the McCabe scandal and not in a good way, how the **** is he not booted out of newstalk??????

Pinkman

Newstalk management made an enormous mistake by not suspending Hook. By letting him swan back on the air yesterday they just inflamed the situation and infuriated people further. As a result of this ineptitude they have no choice but to sack him. I expect his resignation tomorrow. I wonder will he do one more show and read it out at the end? The usual faked emotion he does with his voice might actually be real this time. In a way it'll be a shame to see him go. Always entertaining and unique on Irish radio.

The Specialist

The reaction to his remarks is nothing short of shameful, generation snowflake in full swing. They are the loudest for equal rights for everybody, but say something that doesn't fit their agenda, or woe betide you "trigger" them , and you are suddenly the devil incarnate. It's ****ing patethic.

Jobs OXO

Faugheen wrote: »

He'll be replaced by Sarah McInerney if anyone. Get Hook out, bring a woman in. Two birds, one stone as far as they're concerned.

She was hopelessly out of her depth when she was on Drive and ended up being relegated to a slot with 1,000 listeners.

PeterTheNinth

Maximiliano Weak Guava wrote: »

Would Jonathan Healy not be favourite to get the slot at least in the short term?

I'd say he was front row centre trying to sneak his old job back. But the guy seems completely oblivious to how hated he is. He's set up a communication company recently..... The guy should be ATTENDING a communications company not setting one up.

constitutionus

redlead wrote: »

There's some load of weasels working at newstalk. Effectively asking for a colleague to be sacked just because he said something that you disagree with.

There's a serious issue in Irish media now whereby everyone is expected to have the same social view and if you disagree with that then you should be silenced.

Hopefully ratings plummet if he's replaced by a Chris Donoghue type (chief weasel).

the more i think about the 20 letter signatories the more i cant help thinking "who the fuk do they think they are?"

its none of their damn business what he says on his show. his fuk ups are between him and management, not a bunch of jumped up prima donnas with wounded sensitivities .

that sort of thing is generally reserved for cases of gross misconduct amongst staff. where people who genuinely feel powerless feel the need to group together in order to approach managment. sexual assault , violence, bullying and the like

not bleeding witchunts by PC borg units upset by a bloody broadcast expressing an opinion in a half arsed fashion.

its probably the most sinister aspect of this affair to come to light so far.

Faugheen

redlead wrote: »

There's some load of weasels working at newstalk. Effectively asking for a colleague to be sacked just because he said something that you disagree with.

There's a serious issue in Irish media now whereby everyone is expected to have the same social view and if you disagree with that then you should be silenced.

Hopefully ratings plummet if he's replaced by a Chris Donoghue type (chief weasel).

He'll be replaced by Sarah McInerney if anyone. Get Hook out, bring a woman in. Two birds, one stone as far as they're concerned.

Lickin2me

Nobody allowed say anything anymore without been examined. The whole episode blown out proportion. Hook i find funny and talks a lot sense at times. But these days all the pc gob****es nothing else to do but rant and moan on social media. For the record im allergic to muslims make me sick.

Ash.J.Williams

pauliebdub wrote: »

I doubt it, but I suspect that he's not well liked within the station, I think the whole thing has been blown out of proportion.

It was mentioned way back in this thread that hook was begged not to retire a while back... That would surely make him a marked man by jealous colleagues

pauliebdub

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

I'd say he is a broken man after hearing that 20 of his colleagues want him to leave.

I doubt it, but I suspect that he's not well liked within the station, I think the whole thing has been blown out of proportion.

redlead

There's some load of weasels working at newstalk. Effectively asking for a colleague to be sacked just because he said something that you disagree with.

There's a serious issue in Irish media now whereby everyone is expected to have the same social view and if you disagree with that then you should be silenced.

Hopefully ratings plummet if he's replaced by a Chris Donoghue type (chief weasel).