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Buer · 12-09-2017 04:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

We used a childminder at first and to be honest the creche brought them on a lot more. When they are older will potentially look into something like that or afterschool as an alternative. At the moment the creche is the best option, but it's incredibly expensive. Amazing the Government doesn't bring in some kind of tax relief for childcare costs.

I would like for the kids to be in a creche, ideally. It would benefit them socially and their development in terms of speaking and interaction, no doubt. We're relatively happy with the childminder situation currently but they'll avail of montessori from this time next year so I'll be happy enough for them to go into that for a couple of years before school starts.

There's a serious lack of creche availability where we are too which lets them bump up the cost quite handily. They won't offer a discount for 4 day weeks either, gotta pay the full week.

I don't think there's an ideal situation for childminding aside from simply having enough cash to pick and choose whatever set up you want.

Yeah_Right · 12-09-2017 04:54PM

Buer wrote: »

I will always struggle to comprehend as to why people insist on mortgaging their lives away and causing themselves a life of untold stress for the sake of not being 10 miles further away.

I agree. For us it was important to have a decent sized sunny backyard and a large area for entertaining. We got that in Swords and are still close to some great spots for going out. Swords express is close by for going into town and the DART line is nearby for trips to the south side. We'll have the mortgage gone in 10 years.

irishbucsfan · 12-09-2017 04:56PM

He said it was a staff issue.

The best possible comment he could have made!

awec · 12-09-2017 05:40PM

Buer wrote: »

I will always struggle to comprehend as to why people insist on mortgaging their lives away and causing themselves a life of untold stress for the sake of not being 10 miles further away.

I'd move further away if public transport wasn't hopeless. Our entire lives are based in south Dublin, if we could get there via public transport for cheap, quickly and regularly I'd be happy enough to move further away.

Not the case unfortunately.

kuang1 · 12-09-2017 05:40PM

Buer wrote: »

Au pair isn't an option for a lot of people given the WRC ruling on minimum wage. It's not as cost effective as it once was and you give up your home to have someone living with you which is not appealing whatsoever.

Very few families I know have paid that any heed. Still no problem securing aupairs. €100 a week seems to be the average that they get paid in my part of the world (waterford). Presumably a little more in Dublin.

kuang1 · 12-09-2017 05:45PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We have a spare room and space wouldn't really be an issue. But I really wouldn't like to have a stranger living in the house. I like my privacy far too much.

Also, I'm an absolute dreamboat so would be desperate frustrating for the young wan.

Re: privacy point; absolutely. Totally understand how a lot of people would rather pay more than have a stranger live in-house AND be solely responsible for kids for x hours a week.

Re:dreamboat point; I got nuthin.

molloyjh · 12-09-2017 06:01PM

awec wrote: »

I'd move further away if public transport wasn't hopeless. Our entire lives are based in south Dublin, if we could get there via public transport for cheap, quickly and regularly I'd be happy enough to move further away.

Not the case unfortunately.

Yeah public transport is an issue. I used to live out near the airport. To get to Citywest on public transport would have required going into town to go back out. Obviously there's the option of driving but that's not always an option for various reasons. Routing almost everything through the city centre is so daft.

Stheno · 12-09-2017 06:11PM

molloyjh wrote: »

Yeah public transport is an issue. I used to live out near the airport. To get to Citywest on public transport would have required going into town to go back out. Obviously there's the option of driving but that's not always an option for various reasons. Routing almost everything through the city centre is so daft.

I'd a colleague who did this commute well over two hours each way

@ Yeah_Right the Swords Express is a fab service worth the extra cost compared to Dublin Bus and they do taxsaver tickets

Do you mind me asking what part of Swords you bought in?

mfceiling · 12-09-2017 06:17PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We have a spare room and space wouldn't really be an issue. But I really wouldn't like to have a stranger living in the house. I like my privacy far too much.

Also, I'm an absolute dreamboat so would be desperate frustrating for the young wan.

100% with you on this Venjur. We need our own space so another person wouldn't fit in here.

Most of my "well to do"neighbours have au pairs. One lady had her mam staying over one weekend. Came down to breakfast on the Sunday morning to be greeted by a gorgeous young Brazilian girl in yellow hotpants and a bra top!! Told her daughter to get her out of the house asap!!

I'm happy enough with my childminder. A 30 something, gorgeous Brazilian girl who turned up today in a leather mini skirt and wellies!! She's a great girl mind you and we wouldn't swop her for the world.

thomond2006 · 12-09-2017 06:41PM

mfceiling wrote: »

100% with you on this Venjur. We need our own space so another person wouldn't fit in here.

Most of my "well to do"neighbours have au pairs. One lady had her mam staying over one weekend. Came down to breakfast on the Sunday morning to be greeted by a gorgeous young Brazilian girl in yellow hotpants and a bra top!! Told her daughter to get her out of the house asap!!

I'm happy enough with my childminder. A 30 something, gorgeous Brazilian girl who turned up today in a leather mini skirt and wellies!! She's a great girl mind you and we wouldn't swop her for the world.

Photos or this is FAKE NEWS.

mfceiling · 12-09-2017 06:53PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Photos or this is FAKE NEWS.

I'd love to Thomond but my missus would string me up for taking photos of her. To be fair she has a boyfriend and he might object to me asking if I could take a few pics of her - purely for research purposes.

Stheno · 12-09-2017 07:14PM

mfceiling wrote: »

I'd love to Thomond but my missus would string me up for taking photos of her. To be fair she has a boyfriend and he might object to me asking if I could take a few pics of her - purely for research purposes.

Is that the child minder whose bf won some signed rugby stuff and gave it to you?

Buer · 12-09-2017 07:36PM

awec wrote:

I'd move further away if public transport wasn't hopeless. Our entire lives are based in south Dublin, if we could get there via public transport for cheap, quickly and regularly I'd be happy enough to move further away.

With the Luas cross city and the train, you can get across the city and county from north to your current vicinity fairly handily.

Dublin will never have a tube style system in terms of frequency or reach. There are some solid options available for many areas though to go from north to south.

awec · 12-09-2017 07:55PM

Buer wrote: »

With the Luas cross city and the train, you can get across the city and county from north to your current vicinity fairly handily.

Dublin will never have a tube style system in terms of frequency or reach. There are some solid options available for many areas though to go from north to south.

The Luas covers a fraction of Dublin.

The train is even worse.

Buer · 12-09-2017 08:24PM

awec wrote: »

The Luas covers a fraction of Dublin.

The train is even worse.

If you want to get all over Dublin, you need to drive regardless of where you live. Dublin is not a city that can be navigated on public transport daily with any level of quality unless you don't have to go outside a 5 square km area regardless of where you are.

If you want to go just from north Dublin to south Dublin, the train and Dart is absolutely fine unless you want a tube level of frequency which is unrealistic.

The Castleknock, Carpenterstown, Coolmine area is well served by both bus and rail, for example. Good areas that have buses that go to a number of areas as well as trains every 15-20 minutes at peak times and once an hour during quiet periods.

mfceiling · 12-09-2017 08:30PM

Stheno wrote: »

Is that the child minder whose bf won some signed rugby stuff and gave it to you?

No...she left to start her own business after being with us for 6 years. The previous girl was with us for 4 years. Neither were lookers so I deserve a bit of eye candy now!!

Yeah_Right · 12-09-2017 11:13PM

Stheno wrote: »

I'd a colleague who did this commute well over two hours each way

@ Yeah_Right the Swords Express is a fab service worth the extra cost compared to Dublin Bus and they do taxsaver tickets

Do you mind me asking what part of Swords you bought in?

It's a new development called Longview (I think). I got sick of house hunting, told the missus what I required and then let her pick. We move in end of the year.

Looking forward to living out there.

Stheno · 13-09-2017 12:02AM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

It's a new development called Longview (I think). I got sick of house hunting, told the missus what I required and then let her pick. We move in end of the year.

Looking forward to living out there.

Ah you are 'Down the road from me, given Iive there its a nice area, I'm here nearly mine years and have few complaints

swiwi_ · 13-09-2017 09:34AM

Neil3030 wrote: »

I live in a two-bedroom penthouse apartment overlooking the black forest. There's a tram 50-feet from my front door taking me into the centre of town in ~12 mins. I pay EUR400 per month rent.

Amateur stuff there Neil.

If you want to do this properly, and even give Heisenberg trouble laundering so much dosh...then WORK in Switzerland and LIVE in Germany.

You'll be putting down that deposit on an Edwardian manor in D4 in no time...

stephen_n · 13-09-2017 03:04PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Are governments capable of doing anything about it though?

Use or lose it on land banks would stimulate the market very quickly.

13-09-2017 06:58PM

There's a very tall person outside Clay farm in a red jacket... Will I go over and say hi to awec?

Stheno · 13-09-2017 07:05PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There's a very tall person outside Clay farm in a red jacket... Will I go over and say hi to awec?

Only if they are so thin they make the famine statues on the quays look well nourished

13-09-2017 07:10PM

Stheno wrote: »

Only if they are so thin they make the famine statues on the quays look well nourished

That's what tipped me off in the first place!

Neil3030 · 14-09-2017 05:05PM

This could be the greatest football chant of all time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcPK5Nrymjc

Lyrics:
Romeluuuuu
Lukakuuuuu
He's our Belgian scoring genius
With a 24-inch penis
Scoring all the gooooals
Bell-end to his tooooes

(to the tune of Made of Stone by Stone Roses)

irishbucsfan · 15-09-2017 09:16AM

George Hook suspended

Buer · 15-09-2017 09:22AM

Silly old George. He hasn't a rashers, to be honest and has no place in modern broadcasting. I'd put a significant portion of blame at Newstalk's doorstep on this. Everyone who has heard Hook in the last 5 years knows he has become completely outdated and has actually started to dig his heels in and become beligerent about his more right wing, headstrong views in recent times. When they reshuffled the schedule they should have shuffled him off the stage.

I don't believe for a second that Hook's apology is actually genuine, though. I believe he's sorry he has put himself in this situation and nothing more. He regrets that but I don't think he understands properly what he said that was offensive. He has previous on the matter too.

I'm not particularly left wing, personally, and I do think there has been something of a witch hunt on this. People say worse every day but you cannot say this sort of thing when you're in a position of responsibility and have a large audience. He has to go. I almost feel sorry for him as I believe Hook is someone that needs this sort of interaction and involvement to keep himself going.

Bazzo · 15-09-2017 09:52AM

That's been a long time coming. He stopped being anything more than a **** stirrer years ago.

molloyjh · 15-09-2017 10:12AM

Buer wrote: »

Silly old George. He hasn't a rashers, to be honest and has no place in modern broadcasting. I'd put a significant portion of blame at Newstalk's doorstep on this. Everyone who has heard Hook in the last 5 years knows he has become completely outdated and has actually started to dig his heels in and become beligerent about his more right wing, headstrong views in recent times. When they reshuffled the schedule they should have shuffled him off the stage.

I don't believe for a second that Hook's apology is actually genuine, though. I believe he's sorry he has put himself in this situation and nothing more. He regrets that but I don't think he understands properly what he said that was offensive. He has previous on the matter too.

I'm not particularly left wing, personally, and I do think there has been something of a witch hunt on this. People say worse every day but you cannot say this sort of thing when you're in a position of responsibility and have a large audience. He has to go. I almost feel sorry for him as I believe Hook is someone that needs this sort of interaction and involvement to keep himself going.

I saw a few comments online along the lines of it being possible to feel sorry for the guy and the mountain of crap he has brought down on himself but at the same time be offended at what he said. That sounds about right to me. He did bring it on himself, but the level of hatred shown towards him over it has been somewhat OTT. And as a guy who has a history of depression it could have a profound impact on him.

We can be rightly offended and upset by his comments without losing our humanity towards him as well.

Buer · 15-09-2017 10:12AM

Bazzo wrote: »

That's been a long time coming. He stopped being anything more than a **** stirrer years ago.

I don't think he's a sh*t stirrer. I think he's a 76 year old man from a completely different generation and era that has little understanding or awareness of modern social structures. I think he was something more of a sh*t stirrer when it came to rugby punditry but mostly believed what he was saying in that role too.

I would wager that we all know people that are of his generation (and younger) that hold similar views to the ones he has voiced. Some people are simply set in their way and aren't able/willing to adjust as society does. Some of us will be the same when we reach our twilight years.

For that reason, I do feel pity for him. He's someone's husband, father and grandfather. They have to see him absolutely torn apart over comments he made without a second thought that he saw as entirely innocent.

As I said above, I hold Newstalk significantly responsible for him being in a position to make those comments publicly to begin with.

Bazzo · 15-09-2017 10:19AM

Buer wrote: »

I don't think he's a sh*t stirrer. I think he's a 76 year old man from a completely different generation and era that has little understanding or awareness of modern social structures. I think he was something more of a sh*t stirrer when it came to rugby punditry but mostly believed what he was saying in that role too.

I would wager that we all know people that are of his generation (and younger) that hold similar views to the ones he has voiced. Some people are simply set in their way and aren't able/willing to adjust as society does. Some of us will be the same when we reach our twilight years.

For that reason, I do feel pity for him. He's someone's husband, father and grandfather. They have to see him absolutely torn apart over comments he made without a second thought that he saw as entirely innocent.

As I said above, I hold Newstalk significantly responsible for him being in a position to make those comments publicly to begin with.

His opinions have shifted further and further and become more and more incendiary as the years have gone on. I used to listen to him occasionally on newstalk a good few years ago and had no problem with the show, these days the whole thing is designed to provoke a reaction. I try not to listen to it now but on the few times I've had the misfortune he's had things like his tea party regular on spouting the absolute bull**** from that particular basket case and you hear Hook agreeing with large parts of it.

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