Werewolf XVI - Star Trek

tritium · 04-09-2017 02:47PM

Oh on the why im assuming people are good. I noted in an earlier post that its impprtantwith Q in play (technically its always important) to identify village as well as wolves. Thats why im trying to make that alignment. If im wrong it will show up over time. Equally if im wrong and Q is in my goodie list then i wont want to inadvertently lynch them

Lord TSC · 04-09-2017 02:49PM

I'm extremely suspicious of PJ right now, due to his claim he's Q, and the fact that he hasn't (that I've seen) downplayed that at all today. It makes no sense for a villager to leave that hanging. The only way you leave it hanging is if you genuinely are Q, and messing about for fun, or are a wolf and want to establish a solid excuse not to get lynched...

Kolido · 04-09-2017 02:51PM

At this point, it's easier to think who might be good rather than bad given the numbers.

04-09-2017 02:52PM

my suspects thus far...

Crosstownk- your reason for not choosing Robyn if you were on the bad team seems a bit forced. Doesn't matter if they are new. If you think you've hit a roled player you go with it. I think you're trying to distance yourself from the munch to make yourself look good.
You then have 2 as good and then throw the starman in as you dunno what to make of him. Could be good, could be bad. Is that the "I told you he was bad" scapegoat?

Patrickstarr- very very jumpy. Trying to get people to believe you are twtbaw? Think you drew the bussed short straw.

Tritium- aside from guffy, you have 2 others on the village side that I'm just not feeling right now. Care to expand on why you picked them?

y0ssar1an22 · 04-09-2017 02:52PM

Kolido wrote: »

At this point, it's easier to think who might be good rather than bad given the numbers.

who do you think is good/bad?

Necro · 04-09-2017 02:52PM

tritium wrote:

Oh on the why im assuming people are good. I noted in an earlier post that its impprtantwith Q in play (technically its always important) to identify village as well as wolves. Thats why im trying to make that alignment. If im wrong it will show up over time. Equally if im wrong and Q is in my goodie list then i wont want to inadvertently lynch them

Personally I'd disagree with this. I don't name goodies on principle generally because I don't want to leave a cluster of targets for wolves to pick off if I'm right.

And, of course, I'm rarely right. So I'd generally put a wolf in amongst the goodies and look like a lunatic later on :pac:

Digital Solitude · 04-09-2017 02:53PM

beakerjoe wrote: »

One could say Trit could be trying to clear on of his fellow borgs.

One could continually cast general doubts on everything, or one could contribute a fresh opinion or viewpoint.

What do you think?

MrsFlushdraw · 04-09-2017 02:58PM

Ectoplasm wrote: »

Afternoon all. Sorry I'm late for duty, I got stuck in a turbolift and my com link was broken. I've been reading the ships log though, strange things are afoot. Sorry to see robyn gone so quickly, that's no craic for a newbie and she was fun.

No super solid suspects but I am a bit suss about all the memes. Its a good way to boost your post count without saying anything (although some are v funny). I thought Barney's plan was interesting and quite villagery but mahama pointed out the obvious flaw in the plan. Weirdly enough that makes me think either one could be Q. On Q I think I'd favour ignoring him for now and focusing on the Borgwolfs 'cause trying to secure wolves is our best defense against a Q-mislynch.

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mahamageehad · 04-09-2017 02:59PM

Quick catch up! I'll be around tonight once my shift finishes to discuss properly.

I actually agree with Trit here. It's very early to call good/bad, but I think it's important. Without reasonings, here's my current feelings, in no particular order and obviously some will have stronger leans than others:

Wolf lean: Strawbs, Kolido, QB, BJ, Vale, Mick
Neutral: everyone else
Village lean: PJ, Drumpot, Patrick, sKeith, Lord, Digi, Barney

I actually think it's interesting to see where the crossover is in goodies and baddies. For e.g. Trit thinks Mick is leaning good, whereas I have him as a possible baddie. It's still early days obv, and some of the above are borderline cases based on a comment or a gut feeling, so liable to change, but that's my current feel. Can discuss any later.

MrsFlushdraw · 04-09-2017 03:02PM

My FFA

1.QB
2.Trit
3.Yoss
4.Digi
6.Ectoplasm
7.Sully
8.BJ
9.Guffy
10.sKeith
11.patrickStarr
13.Necrominus
14.Jayop
15. Micksjaguar
17. Strawbs
18. Valeyard
19. Crosstown
20. Grumpylumpy
21. Drumpot
23. Barney
24. Kolido
25. PJ

Cos I have no clue and I just removed the ones I think are Team Enterprise!

The_Valeyard · 04-09-2017 03:02PM

mahamageehad wrote: »

Quick catch up! I'll be around tonight once my shift finishes to discuss properly.

I actually agree with Trit here. It's very early to call good/bad, but I think it's important. Without reasonings, here's my current feelings, in no particular order and obviously some will have stronger leans than others:

Wolf lean: Strawbs, Kolido, QB, BJ, Vale, Mick
Neutral: everyone else
Village lean: PJ, Drumpot, Patrick, sKeith, Lord, Digi, Barney

I actually think it's interesting to see where the crossover is in goodies and baddies. For e.g. Trit thinks Mick is leaning good, whereas I have him as a possible baddie. It's still early days obv, and some of the above are borderline cases based on a comment or a gut feeling, so liable to change, but that's my current feel. Can discuss any later.

Why am I suss, do tell

Your Captain orders it.

Necro · 04-09-2017 03:03PM

mahamageehad wrote:

Wolf lean: Strawbs, Kolido, QB, BJ, Vale, Mick Neutral: everyone else Village lean: PJ, Drumpot, Patrick, sKeith, Lord, Digi, Barney

I'll be honest I actually agree with most of this. I'd have Strawberry and Kolido in the neutral category though and PJ in the 'wolf lean' part though.

Not giving my opinion on who I think is good though as I already said I don't agree with the method personally

mahamageehad · 04-09-2017 03:06PM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Why am I suss, do tell

Your Captain orders it.

I don't get what you're doing, or how it helps us. If it's not helping, it's hindering, hence slight wolf lean. It might all become clear at a later stage and you may just be a genius villager, but for now I had nothing to put you in my village.

Kolido · 04-09-2017 03:07PM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

who do you think is good/bad?

Considering good atm: Paddy, Lord, Necro, Barney, Trit

considering wolfy: Mick, Strawbs, Flushy, skeith

all others neutral thus far.

MrsFlushdraw · 04-09-2017 03:09PM

Kolido wrote: »

Considering good atm: Paddy, Lord, Necro, Barney, Trit

considering wolfy: Mick, Strawbs, Flushy, skeith

all others neutral thus far.

Glad to see I got on someones list. Was beginning to think I was invisible!

The_Valeyard · 04-09-2017 03:09PM

mahamageehad wrote: »

I don't get what you're doing, or how it helps us. If it's not helping, it's hindering, hence slight wolf lean. It might all become clear at a later stage and you may just be a genius villager, but for now I had nothing to put you in my village.

Piff I'm your Captain.

Treason season has come early this year.

crosstownk · 04-09-2017 03:09PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Is that the "I told you he was bad" scapegoat?

No. It's exactly how I'm thinking of PatrickS.

Like I said, he may be a villager due to the way he's rattling cages but as it's so early in the game he could easily be doing the opposite to try and hide in plain sight.

So the answer to your question is 'no'. I'm not saying he's bad - he has simply drawn my attention and I'm trying to keep an open mind. That's all.

04-09-2017 03:09PM

mahamageehad wrote: »

Quick catch up! I'll be around tonight once my shift finishes to discuss properly.

I actually agree with Trit here. It's very early to call good/bad, but I think it's important. Without reasonings, here's my current feelings, in no particular order and obviously some will have stronger leans than others:

Wolf lean: Strawbs, Kolido, QB, BJ, Vale, Mick
Neutral: everyone else
Village lean: PJ, Drumpot, Patrick, sKeith, Lord, Digi, Barney

I actually think it's interesting to see where the crossover is in goodies and baddies. For e.g. Trit thinks Mick is leaning good, whereas I have him as a possible baddie. It's still early days obv, and some of the above are borderline cases based on a comment or a gut feeling, so liable to change, but that's my current feel. Can discuss any later.

mahamageehad has adapted

mahamageehad · 04-09-2017 03:10PM

Necrominus wrote: »

I'll be honest I actually agree with most of this. I'd have Strawberry and Kolido in the neutral category though and PJ in the 'wolf lean' part though.

Not giving my opinion on who I think is good though as I already said I don't agree with the method personally

Kolido is a borderline case, I felt strongly about him earlier but cooling slightly as the day goes on. I don't see PJ as wolfy, the play doesn't make sense.

Fair enough, it's a new method I'm trying and I think it works pretty well in a game where there's only 1 wolf team. At worst it gets more info out on thread and gives us more chances to spot patterns. Plus, if a few people list someone I've marked as villagery as bad (or vice versa) it gives a nice place to start in searching out posts.

Digital Solitude · 04-09-2017 03:12PM

Necrominus wrote: »

I'll be honest I actually agree with most of this. I'd have Strawberry and Kolido in the neutral category though and PJ in the 'wolf lean' part though.

Not giving my opinion on who I think is good though as I already said I don't agree with the method personally

The wolves know who the villagers are

mahamageehad · 04-09-2017 03:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

mahamageehad has adapted

No idea what this is supposed to mean. Let us into that head of your PJ, how you feeling about the game so far?

beakerjoe · 04-09-2017 03:13PM

Digital Solitude wrote: »

One could continually cast general doubts on everything, or one could contribute a fresh opinion or viewpoint.

What do you think?

I could. Like I looked at you calling 2 other villagers good and feel that could be a wolfy move, cosying up to two vocal posters.

Your not top of my list thus far, but calling someone good doesnt sit well with me.

Necro · 04-09-2017 03:16PM

mahamageehad wrote:

Fair enough, it's a new method I'm trying and I think it works pretty well in a game where there's only 1 wolf team. At worst it gets more info out on thread and gives us more chances to spot patterns. Plus, if a few people list someone I've marked as villagery as bad (or vice versa) it gives a nice place to start in searching out posts.

As I said to Trit already, I'd prefer not labelling a group of people as goodies given that the only people right now who know for sure who's good are the wolves. It just makes me uneasy.

Consider everyone I didn't mention as neutral in my case for data if required later.

So my wolf leans in no particular order: Mick, PJ, BJ, QB, Vale.

Everyone else = neutral

Apart from Necro of course. He's a good egg

My FFA will be comprised of the wolf lean category unless anything changes.
Although Vale won't be in it, because he's my Q suspect right now.

Necro · 04-09-2017 03:17PM

Digital Solitude wrote:

The wolves know who the villagers are

Yep I was writing a post regarding that as you posted. No need for us to give them a more detailed target list.

Kolido · 04-09-2017 03:18PM

Digital Solitude wrote: »

The wolves know who the villagers are

True, the degative to it is we could be giving the wolves a pattern to work with, but I think it good to throw some names out there, see how others feel.

My list is far from concrete, just going on a few dodgy posts and a gut feeling so far.

04-09-2017 03:18PM

mahamageehad wrote: »

No idea what this is supposed to mean. Let us into that head of your PJ, how you feeling about the game so far?

I don't want to push it tbh. I accused you not too long ago and now you have put me in your goodie list.

Ectoplasm · 04-09-2017 03:36PM

Necrominus wrote: »

But neither priest nor seer should come out until after the recruiter is dead, peeked or has converted someone.
Too valuable to lose to the dark side imo.

Just been re-reading posts and this one struck me. I'm not sure about the seer but in terms of the priest, the bit I've bolded struck me. I don't think we could trust a priest reveal after night 3 if a conversion happens. If the wolves nab the priest as their recruit then they will know the roles of the dead and can use that information against the village. The only possible confirmation would be if a seer had also peeked a dead player and what if the seer is dead. Then potentially two wolves claiming village roles. Is my logic wrong here?

Necro · 04-09-2017 03:40PM

Ectoplasm wrote:

Just been re-reading posts and this one struck me. I'm not sure about the seer but in terms of the priest, the bit I've bolded struck me. I don't think we could trust a priest reveal after night 3 if a conversion happens. If the wolves nab the priest as their recruit then they will know the roles of the dead and can use that information against the village. The only possible confirmation would be if a seer had also peeked a dead player and what if the seer is dead. Then potentially two wolves claiming village roles. Is my logic wrong here?

It's a risk for sure. But they come out too early and die without giving us any concrete info. They come out too late and we don't trust them due to conversion.

We need to find that recruiter and negate this possibility. Everything else is second to this imo.

Guffy · 04-09-2017 03:47PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don't want to push it tbh. I accused you not too long ago and now you have put me in your goodie list.

I don't get this. You accused maha? She put you on goodie list and now you dont want to persue your theory because you are on her goodie list?

Did you suggest she was recruited in that post? Why?

beakerjoe · 04-09-2017 03:50PM

Guffy wrote: »

I don't get this. You accused maha? She put you on goodie list and now you dont want to persue your theory because you are on her goodie list?

Did you suggest she was recruited in that post? Why?

Now Im not defending PJ, I think they look ropey, but I can see the theory she has.

If someone put me on their goodie list, it can be seen as a ploy to cosy up to a known goodie (IE, if Mahama is a wolf, PJ may think she is cosying up to her consider Mahama knows PJ is good (or maybe Q).

How do you not get that ?

Werewolf XVI - Star Trek

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