Dairy chit chat II

whelan2 · 28-08-2017 06:33AM

Timmaay wrote: »

Reading your post inspired me to check bonkers also, it's bang on a year since I last moved. It's suggesting energia for me, with bordgas next, I don't see anything about the cap on units? 500e saving for the year, not bad for barely 5mins work! We use 15000kwh a yr here (60:40 split between day and night units), our combined house/farm bill has been 350e last few months, but averages out at 200e across the year. Our well supply which provides all the water here not included in the above, as it supplies a neighbour also so separate meter/bill.

When I signed up to energia the small printcsays 3000 day units and 2000 night units at the special price. Fair play to the girl in bonkers she rang me up to tell me. If you read the email from energia you will see this condition. She suggested the bord gais energy. I will also get tesco clubcard points based on my bill. Handy for Christmas shopping....

mahoney_j · 28-08-2017 07:32AM

kevthegaff wrote: »

What's yer electricity bills? Mine is around 600 a month, 250 house, 350 farm, is that about right?

86 a month for house and 345 for farm both on level pay with Bord gais and I submit a meter reading myself on the first of every month

GrasstoMilk · 28-08-2017 01:43PM

Has anyone used Cefaman dry cow from norbrook? Drying off autumn calvers for the last time ever here

Gawddawggonnit · 28-08-2017 02:06PM

Anyone know where those auto sprayers that spray the underside and sides of trucks etc with disinfectant can be sourced? I presume they have them in abattoirs.

I need two about 4m wide.

cute geoge · 28-08-2017 02:42PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Anyone know where those auto sprayers that spray the underside and sides of trucks etc with disinfectant can be sourced? I presume they have them in abattoirs.

I need two about 4m wide.

I hope you might give me a finder's fee any way this might be what you are afterhttps://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/disinfectant-spray-underbody-and-sides/8495425

simx · 28-08-2017 05:22PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Theres 2 sides to the coin . So.e pwople thinl that there stock is the best and theres no stock that they vould buy thatd be as good as them

Yes I agree there with you, would buy a couple off two lads with v nice herds better than mine no doubt, would make v nice base cows to start breeding off

Gawddawggonnit · 28-08-2017 07:15PM

cute geoge wrote: »

I hope you might give me a finder's fee any way this might be what you are afterhttps://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/disinfectant-spray-underbody-and-sides/8495425

Thanks George.

Any chance you could make a thingy that I could click on? I've spent nearly a half an hour trying to find it!
Technophobe me...

Buford T. Justice XIX · 28-08-2017 07:22PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Thanks George.

Any chance you could make a thingy that I could click on? I've spent nearly a half an hour trying to find it!
Technophobe me...

https://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/disinfectant-spray-underbody-and-sides/8495425

That should work, G.

Gawddawggonnit · 28-08-2017 07:43PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/disinfectant-spray-underbody-and-sides/8495425

That should work, G.

Thanks Chief.

I'm in need of two new ones.

Anyone know a supplier or retailer of these?

Mooooo · 29-08-2017 04:54PM

Many of ye put tracks down between two paddocks for grazing in wet weather, just a few feet wide? Some places seem two there just put up a reel to get cows to back of paddocks, don't bother putting stone down

visatorro · 29-08-2017 05:03PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Many of ye put tracks down between two paddocks for grazing in wet weather, just a few feet wide? Some places seem two there just put up a reel to get cows to back of paddocks, don't bother putting stone down

Did it here a couple of times this spring. You wouldn't notice the difference now. Seen a video of greenfield before I think, there was tracks into most paddocks, and they'd be carrying alot of cows. Looks bad at the time maybe but works. Getting to water troughs can be an issue thou.

White Clover · 29-08-2017 05:07PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Many of ye put tracks down between two paddocks for grazing in wet weather, just a few feet wide? Some places seem two there just put up a reel to get cows to back of paddocks, don't bother putting stone down

When they get mucky they'd be a disaster for spreading mortellaro.

whelan2 · 29-08-2017 06:23PM

Scanned today. 9 cows not in calf, only 1surprise one. Rest were late calvers. 2heifers not in calf abit disappointed with that. 2pb sucklers in calf, one carrying twin bulls for the second year in a row.

Timmaay · 29-08-2017 06:49PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Many of ye put tracks down between two paddocks for grazing in wet weather, just a few feet wide? Some places seem two there just put up a reel to get cows to back of paddocks, don't bother putting stone down

Pigtail stakes getting hard to drive down in afew paddocks here, we could do with a drop of... Soz I'll stop now ha, but yep the above is a very useful tool during wet times, and as was said even though it looks bad at the time it all recovers quick enough once the ground isn't completely saturated. In particular it helps hugely to avoid letting the cows near low parts of the paddock, drains etc, where they'll do alot more serious poaching that take months to recover.

Mooooo · 29-08-2017 06:51PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Pigtail stakes getting hard to drive down in afew paddocks here, we could do with a drop of... Soz I'll stop now ha, but yep the above is a very useful tool during wet times, and as was said even though it looks bad at the time it all recovers quick enough once the ground isn't completely saturated. In particular it helps hugely to avoid letting the cows near low parts of the paddock, drains etc, where they'll do alot more serious poaching that take months to recover.

Didn't write it properly but do lads recommend putting down stub roads or would ye just stick with pigtails etc?

GrasstoMilk · 29-08-2017 07:56PM

What width have ye all got yer cubicles at? 3.77ft?
7ft for singles and 15ft fir doubles?
That's as much width as I can give for them here
Pillars in shed so that's dictating it

Buford T. Justice XIX · 29-08-2017 08:19PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Didn't write it properly but do lads recommend putting down stub roads or would ye just stick with pigtails etc?

I've often wondered if a few trailer loads of sand would be a good investment for a few areas like that. Say, 5' wide and pigtail posts to mark out the roadway.

The sand will be solid when wet and will grow grass again when the area goes back into a normal paddock. And it can be baled/topped as required too with no damage to the mower?

RedPeppers · 29-08-2017 10:19PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Many of ye put tracks down between two paddocks for grazing in wet weather, just a few feet wide? Some places seem two there just put up a reel to get cows to back of paddocks, don't bother putting stone down

I often do this in wet weather and find it works well except if your ground is very soft they will destroy the track. Gradually I'm getting round to putting down stone and 804 on these spur roads. As already mentioned biggest issue I find is access to water but overall works very well

charolais0153 · 29-08-2017 10:25PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I've often wondered if a few trailer loads of sand would be a good investment for a few areas like that. Say, 5' wide and pigtail posts to mark out the roadway.

The sand will be solid when wet and will grow grass again when the area goes back into a normal paddock. And it can be baled/topped as required too with no damage to the mower?

Idk. I thought theyd sink through The sand unless your putting a good few inches of it down?

Waffletraktor · 29-08-2017 10:27PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I've often wondered if a few trailer loads of sand would be a good investment for a few areas like that. Say, 5' wide and pigtail posts to mark out the roadway.

The sand will be solid when wet and will grow grass again when the area goes back into a normal paddock. And it can be baled/topped as required too with no damage to the mower?

Few rolls of astro turf material? Seen it in a few places on greasy patches of tracks

Keepgrowing · 30-08-2017 09:10AM

IFA: IFA Liquid Milk retail protest at Dunnes Stores + Aldi. Meet Dunnes Stores, Kyle Shopping Centre, New Road, Portlaoise, Wed 30 Aug 11 am. #CheapMilkCosts

Water John · 30-08-2017 10:07AM

Yeah Morrisons giving 10p extra for cows grazed for 120 days min per year.
A lot of liquid milk here is now pulled off regular supplies, closing manufacture in the winter months. I'd wonder have the liquid boys, a losing battle? Maybe a differential for all winter milk is the way to go?

Keepgrowing · 30-08-2017 10:19AM

Water John wrote: »

Yeah Morrisons giving 10p extra for cows grazed for 120 days min per year.
A lot of liquid milk here is now pulled off regular supplies, closing manufacture in the winter months. I'd wonder have the liquid boys, a losing battle? Maybe a differential for all winter milk is the way to go?

It's not even that, it's the fact that a fresh staple is being used as a loss leader. That galls me and its sdding to the downward pressure on our produce be it veg meat or milk

It's also leading to mass evacuation of business from our main streets. Nothing only a Pound shops, betting offices and take always on our main streets. O'Connell street our main thoroughfares is a prime example

alps · 30-08-2017 10:28AM

Hey Buford...came across this "Distinguished Officer Of the Law" this weekend...like him ya?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 30-08-2017 11:01AM

alps wrote: »

Hey Buford...came across this "Distinguished Officer Of the Law" this weekend...like him ya?

Jaysus, I need a haircut.

And them boots do nothing for me:D:P

blackdog1 · 30-08-2017 11:16AM

Water John wrote:

Yeah Morrisons giving 10p extra for cows grazed for 120 days min per year. A lot of liquid milk here is now pulled off regular supplies, closing manufacture in the winter months. I'd wonder have the liquid boys, a losing battle? Maybe a differential for all winter milk is the way to go?

I'm not a liquid milk producer but that should be illegal. Liquid herds are subject to higher hygiene standards and routine checks.

Floki · 30-08-2017 12:17PM

blackdog1 wrote: »

I'm not a liquid milk producer but that should be illegal. Liquid herds are subject to higher hygiene standards and routine checks.

Never knew that.
Spring commercial producer here and I've had milk from here go to baileys Virginia even though I don't have a contract and also to a private yogurt producer with Glanbia the middle man and also no contract.

whelan2 · 30-08-2017 01:32PM

Kowtow, did your lad go back to school after? I'm still listening to, " I dont want to go back....."

kowtow · 30-08-2017 01:49PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Kowtow, did your lad go back to school after? I'm still listening to, " I dont want to go back....."

Nope, he's off to Gurteen with a pair of steel capped wellies for every day of the week.

And he turned down some really chunky bribes both from me and his Godparents, so we must commend him on his integrity at least.

Henwin · 30-08-2017 04:05PM

hey, we got a letter yest from kerry co-op, offering a new milk contract for 3 years, 2018, 19 and 20. its over 8 months from march to october.
the price payable is at A=£6.3624 PER KG OF PROTEIN and B=£3.1812 per keg of butterfat less C value of 4cpl which equates to 31 cpl, inclusive of vat.
Interested suppliers can decide between 5%, 10% or a % between 11-20%.
So we are deciding now whether we will sign it or not.
Our solids are fairly poor with protein at 3.23 and fat at 3.88 so we would be lower than 31cpl.
We signed it the last time and we were happy with it as the price went down to 24 cent so we gained roughly 5,000 euro if my calculations are correct.
But now with the price at 33 cent, i am a bit more cautious about this one.
Where do ye guys reckon the price of milk will be over the next 3 years. I suppose its impossible to know. it was nice to have that safety net of 20% of our milk secure but the last couple of months we are losing money on the scheme.
We are thinking of not signing it but will make up our minds in the next few weeks.

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