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New Smart TV - Do i need an aerial for Saorview

  • 20-06-2013 08:52AM
    #1
    Damon22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ✭


    Guys,

    Probably a silly question which has been answered a hundred times here already!!

    I recently bought an LG 42LN570V Smart TV and presumed that it would have a built in aerial for Saorview but i can't pick anything up on it at the moment. Do i need a separate saorview box for a new tv like this? i purchased a Samsung TV for my mother for christmas and it automatically picks up all saorview channels without an aerial - just presumed it would be the same deal here.

    Anybody have any suggestions?

    Merci!!


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  • #2
    Fresh Pots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭Fresh Pots


    Damon22 wrote: »
    Guys,

    Probably a silly question which has been answered a hundred times here already!!

    I recently bought an LG 42LN570V Smart TV and presumed that it would have a built in aerial for Saorview but i can't pick anything up on it at the moment. Do i need a separate saorview box for a new tv like this? i purchased a Samsung TV for my mother for christmas and it automatically picks up all saorview channels without an aerial - just presumed it would be the same deal here.

    Anybody have any suggestions?

    Merci!!
    Yeah you need to connect it to an aerial, don't think any tvs have an aerial built in.


  • #3
    dubrov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,730 ✭✭✭dubrov


    You generally need an aerial to pick up Saorview. If your mother's TV picks it up without an aerial it must be in a position that picks up a strong signal directly to the coax connection.

    I think this TV also has a satellite tuner built in (not 100% sure though) as well so if you hook it up to a satellite dish (pointing in the same direction as Sky) you'll get all the English channels free as well.


  • #4
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Damon22 wrote: »
    i purchased a Samsung TV for my mother for christmas and it automatically picks up all saorview channels without an aerial

    You always need an aerial of some kind for Saorview or any terrestrial service.

    Your mother's tv must have something stuck in the aerial socket. It isn't picking up anything 'automatically'.


  • #5
    Damon22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ✭Damon22


    Ok guys,

    Appreciate the info. Will have to get myself an aerial on the roof so!

    Cheers!


  • #6
    ardmacha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    Appreciate the info. Will have to get myself an aerial on the roof so!

    You need an aerial, but it depends on where you are whether an aerial on the roof is the only solution. One in the attic or even on top of a cupboard might be sufficient.


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  • #7
    garbanzo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭garbanzo


    Same issue here in Dublin 14. How did it pan out OP.? How did you get connected.

    Cheers.


  • #8
    europhile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭europhile


    Do I need an amplified aerial? Don't know what the difference is between amplified and unamplified?

    Also, I'm in Dublin. Will an aerial with a three mile range pick up the signal or do I need one that has a greater range?

    Thank you.


  • #9
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,370 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    europhile wrote: »
    Do I need an amplified aerial? Don't know what the difference is between amplified and unamplified?

    Also, I'm in Dublin. Will an aerial with a three mile range pick up the signal or do I need one that has a greater range?

    In Dublin a basic roof aerial will do the job, pointing at Three Rock or Kippure. If the signal is good enough installing it in the attic might work also.

    Saorview coverage checker - https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage

    Aerials - http://www.freetv.ie/saorview/tv-aerials/uhf/

    Forget about amplified aerials in Dublin, if you are feeding the signal to a number of TV points later a distribution amplifier can be used to split the signal.


  • #10
    europhile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭europhile


    Many thanks. I wasn't clear. I'm in an apartment and have to get an indoor aerial.


  • #11
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,370 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    europhile wrote: »
    Many thanks. I wasn't clear. I'm in an apartment and have to get an indoor aerial.

    OK, which transmitter is recommended at your location?

    Generally for the 2 transmitters I mentioned you'll probably require a window facing in the direction of that transmitter to get any decent signal. In some cases a amplified aerial may give a weaker signal a small boost but if the received signal isn't good enough an amplifier can't boost what's not there.


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  • #12
    europhile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭europhile


    Many thanks.

    I have a big window facing the Dublin mountains and I'm on the fifth floor.

    SITE INFORMATION
    Site:KIPPURE
    Site On-Air:Yes
    Channels: 54, 58

    AERIAL INFORMATION
    Polarization:H
    Direction to:
    point (degrees)South (180)
    Distance: 22 km


  • #13
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,973 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    If you can see the various antennae on the Dublin Mountains then you have line of sight to Three Rock. Don't worry about the channel numbers, just tell the TV to scan for digital channels and it will find what's available.


  • #14
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,973 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    europhile wrote: »
    Many thanks. I wasn't clear. I'm in an apartment and have to get an indoor aerial.

    Poster The_Cush provided a recommendation for an indoor aerial in another thread this p.m. The ones they sell in the electrical retail shops are rubbish.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=104535067&postcount=16


  • #15
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    Just a personal note on the LG TV tuners. the the tuner is notoriously fussy. I have an Ariva120 box with 81%signal 90%qauality and it picks up saorview no problem. The lg TV brand new finds no signal. Previous TV was an LG and it didn't pick up any signal either. Samsung TV in the kitchen when I plug it in picks it up no proem also.


  • #16
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,094 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Just know Cush and Johnny will know the answer here #BroadbandBlowIn

    South Dublin with LOS to Three Rock. TV in rear bedroom of a rental (aka no LOS from that room. How likely is a small internal antenna receiving anything usable. Due to it being a rental they've a no go on external fixtures.


  • #17
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    ED E wrote: »
    Just know Cush and Johnny will know the answer here #BroadbandBlowIn

    South Dublin with LOS to Three Rock. TV in rear bedroom of a rental (aka no LOS from that room. How likely is a small internal antenna receiving anything usable. Due to it being a rental they've a no go on external fixtures.
    Get a cheapo one from your local Euro store. If it works, great. If not no big loss. Don't be fooled into any "boosted/amplified" yoke that needs power. They are a con and only waste electricity.


  • #18
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,370 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    In certain situations, with a borderline good signal, an amplified aerial might give the signal a boost to the TV but could be susceptible to local interference.

    Would an attic mounted aerial be an option, many years ago pre-DTT, I mounted a small indoor UHF unamplified aerial in an attic (in Tallaght) for reception of Three Rock. Never had a reception problem.


  • #19
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,094 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Cheers folks, time to experiment this weekend.


  • #20
    Thargor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    I must have always been lucky with Saorview reception when living in Galway, Athlone and Bray, I can pick it up with nothing, a piece of copper wire and a co-ax connector in rural Galway, an antenna the size of a cigarette on my pcs dongle, a half broken poundshop aerial on my smart tv in Bray, I never have any bother with it.


  • #21
    FunkyJunky6969
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    Thargor wrote: »
    I must have always been lucky with Saorview reception when living in Galway, Athlone and Bray, I can pick it up with nothing, a piece of copper wire and a co-ax connector in rural Galway, an antenna the size of a cigarette on my pcs dongle, a half broken poundshop aerial on my smart tv in Bray, I never have any bother with it.

    Hi my LG TV is not picking up Saorview
    I have an indoor aerial attached and tried to tune in Saorview but it didn't pick up any channels am I doing anything wrong ?

    I have the location set to Ireland and set to scan through antenna.
    My LG model number is 43UJ635V

    Please any help would I would be very grateful.


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  • #22
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    ED E wrote: »
    Cheers folks, time to experiment this weekend.

    Yoou will probably know given your extensive broadband posting, but the biggest obstacle is getting the aerial as far away as possible from the TV.

    A lot of these amplified aerials have extremely short electrical and RF leads. This makes difficult if you are trying to get the aerial to a window cill which should be the best place regardless of LOS, so you may have to run both an extension lead and the powered aerial junctioned with a back to back and a longer piece of coax cable.


  • #23
    padyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭padyjoe


    FunkyJunky6969 wrote: »
    Hi my LG TV is not picking up Saorview

    I guess you are in or around Marble City. Your aerial has a range up to 15 miles. The transmitter on Mt. Leinster is 23 miles away, so what do you expect?
    Try moving the aerial around while searching for channels or you might have a better luck of getting a (amplified) rabbit ear aerial.
    Simples.


  • #24
    FunkyJunky6969
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    padyjoe wrote: »
    I guess you are in or around Marble City. Your aerial has a range up to 15 miles. The transmitter on Mt. Leinster is 23 miles away, so what do you expect?
    Try moving the aerial around while searching for channels or you might have a better luck of getting a (amplified) rabbit ear aerial.
    Simples.

    Thanks for the feedback. Yes I live near the High st in the City. I do have an amplified rabbit ear indoor Aerial but still didn't work.


  • #25
    padyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭padyjoe


    Ok. I'm not sure what's your settings like, but can give you pointers: go into your menu, bring up the manual tuning of DTV (leave analogue or cable out) and if you set the channel UHF 23, frequency 490000 kHz and bandwidth 8 MHz, you could get RTE2 while moving your aerial. I you find something, you could start an auto search from there.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Leinster


  • #26
    FunkyJunky6969
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    padyjoe wrote: »
    Ok. I'm not sure what's your settings like, but can give you pointers: go into your menu, bring up the manual tuning of DTV (leave analogue or cable out) and if you set the channel UHF 23, frequency 490000 kHz and bandwidth 8 MHz, you could get RTE2 while moving your aerial. I you find something, you could start an auto search from there.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Leinster

    Cheers for that. I think I'm out of luck. I'm not getting any signal. I took 3 pictures of my set up. The TV setting, Aerial placement and aerial range.

    Please take a look and tell me what ya think?


  • #27
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    FunkyJunky6969 wrote: »
    Cheers for that. I think I'm out of luck. I'm not getting any signal. I took 3 pictures of my set up. The TV setting, Aerial placement and aerial range.

    Please take a look and tell me what ya think?

    I presume that aerial is plugged into the electrical wall socket and also into the tv and the variable gain button is either pressed in or turned on to the max ? Clockwise.

    They are like a volume button turn it full. Also you should be able to move the inner aerial too.

    The Rods are for FM and are of no use. HD Compatible made me laugh.

    I can get Mt Leinster with an indoor aerial in Wexford! Distance means nothing.

    23 and 26 is what you are looking for.


  • #28
    FunkyJunky6969
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    STB. wrote: »
    I presume that aerial is plugged into the electrical wall socket and also into the tv and the variable gain button is either pressed in or turned on to the max ? Clockwise.

    They are like a volume button turn it full. Also you should be able to move the inner aerial too.

    The Rods are for FM and are of no use. HD Compatible made me laugh.

    I can get Mt Leinster with an indoor aerial in Wexford! Distance means nothing.

    23 and 26 is what you are looking for.

    Sound, yes I have it plugged into an extension cable and the back of the TVand the gain is turned to the max.

    The TV itself just doesn't seem to pick up any signal strength.


  • #29
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    FunkyJunky6969 wrote: »
    Sound, yes I have it plugged into an extension cable and the back of the TVand the gain is turned to the max.

    The TV itself just doesn't seem to pick up any signal strength.

    Humour me. Try 52 and 56.


  • #30
    FunkyJunky6969
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    STB. wrote: »
    Humour me. Try 52 and 56.

    No signal again bud


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  • #31
    FunkyJunky6969
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunkyJunky6969


    FunkyJunky6969 wrote: »
    No signal again bud

    Do you really think it could be the range of the indoor Aerial.

    You think I would need an outdoor Aerial ?


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