Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

Ultimate Seduction · 28-08-2017 10:20AM

Also the power not transferring to boxing..

I was always of the opinion that Conor has timing and accuracy, he never had KO power, but it seems he has 0 power. The 4 or 5 clean shots that snapped Floyd's head back didn't bother him in the slightest.

Roll on McGregor v Mallinagi...

sonofenoch · 28-08-2017 10:26AM

Conor via DQ

Alot of boxers interviewed seemed to give him alot of credit in there saying he did well Yanks mostly, think I've only seen Bellew and Malinaggi being critical ........maybe they're just happy and relieved their game came out on top and prepared to give him some good will ........I personally think while not embarrassing himself did not do a great job

Ultimate Seduction · 28-08-2017 10:31AM

sonofenoch wrote:

Alot of boxers interviewed seemed to give him alot of credit in there saying he did well Yanks mostly, think I've only seen Bellew and Malinaggi being critical ........maybe they're just happy and relieved their game came out on top and prepared to give him some good will ........I personally think while not embarrassing himself did not do a great job

Everyone expected him to get embarresed

He didn't get embarresed

Therefore he did better than expected so people are giving him credit for it.

Running outta gas that early must be embarrassing though, 3 rounds and he was catching flies. I've no doubt that he does put in the work. The Columbian party's and devils lettuce when he's out of camp definitely isn't helping though.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 28-08-2017 10:31AM

Floyd via DQ

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

His technique wasn't boxing technique but it was effective point scoring and would have troubled Floyd, at least make him work hard if Conor had the conditioning to go with the game plan.

It didn't trouble Floyd, there was nothing that conditioning could have done to help McGregor, he gave it his best shot but doesnt have the necessary skills to fight someone of Floyd's calibre.

sonofenoch · 28-08-2017 10:42AM

Conor via DQ

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

It didn't trouble Floyd, there was nothing that conditioning could have done to help McGregor, he gave it his best shot but doesnt have the necessary skills to fight someone of Floyd's calibre.

He would have gone the distance quite handily without gassing......while never doing enough to win that would have been huge alone

walshb · 28-08-2017 10:42AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

benny79 wrote: »

Can I ask a question to the boxing experts. How did Conor only win the first round? I definitely taught he 100% won the second and even the third as Mayweather done absolutely nothing to justify winning them!

This is why I hate boxing.. I watched the Packy fight and I taught the judges were giving Mayweather a good few rounds that Paco was clearly winning. Same with the boxing in the olympics

One could make a case that Conor won the first 4 rds, maybe even 5...

Problem being that he was on the way out after this, and Floyd knew it..

I know I have been quite critical of Floyd's performance, but Maravilla made a good point that he knew Conor was not going to last, and it allowed Floyd to box and fight in a more free way, not trying to be super accurate or super effective.

I'm glad it's over. It was all hype and no substance. I said that from day 1...

And Floyd is still 49-0 for me.

Ultimate Seduction · 28-08-2017 10:42AM

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote:

It didn't trouble Floyd, there was nothing that conditioning could have done to help McGregor, he gave it his best shot but doesnt have the necessary skills to fight someone of Floyd's calibre.

I don't agree there. I think with better conditioning he at least lasts the distance. There was only 2 rounds in that 10 that Conor wasn't having any success. Floyd said himself, the game plan was to wait untill Conor gassed out then knock him out. That's exactly what happened.

Burkie1203 · 28-08-2017 10:50AM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

I don't agree there. I think with better conditioning he at least lasts the distance. There was only 2 rounds in that 10 that Conor wasn't having any success. Floyd said himself, the game plan was to wait untill Conor gassed out then knock him out. That's exactly what happened.

Scorecards of judges say different. CmcG wasnt having much success at all

Burkie1203 · 28-08-2017 10:53AM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

His technique wasn't boxing technique but it was effective point scoring and would have troubled Floyd, at least make him work hard if Conor had the conditioning to go with the game plan.

This was judged boxing not point scoring. FMs face post fight tells us all we need to know about CmcGs poor technique and how ineffective it was.

The Nal · 28-08-2017 10:54AM

walshb wrote: »

And Floyd is still 49-0 for me.

Hes 50-0. Marciano beat a lot of bums in that 49-0 and fought in one of the most uncompetitive times in heavyweight history.

Sure, Saturday was a bit of an exhibition match but no more valid than some of Marcianos fights.

Mayweather has beaten 22 world champions in those 50 fights.

Burkie1203 · 28-08-2017 10:56AM

walshb wrote: »

One could make a case that Conor won the first 4 rds, maybe even 5....

On what basis? ?

Ultimate Seduction · 28-08-2017 10:57AM

I didn't see the judges scorecards? What were they? Conor won the first 3 rounds, ludicrous if they didn't score it that way.

You could lose every round in a fight and still be very competitive, so having success doesn't have to mean winning rounds.

Maravilla33 · 28-08-2017 10:57AM

Floyd via DQ

Think I will have to give up the internet if Paulie vs McGregor ever happens. I can't do this again....

Burkie1203 · 28-08-2017 11:01AM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

I didn't see the judges scorecards? What were they? Conor won't the first 3 rounds, ludicrous if they didn't score it that way.

You could lose every round in a fight and still be very competitive, so having success doesn't have to mean winning rounds.

89-81, 87- 83, 89-82

Ultimate Seduction · 28-08-2017 11:02AM

Burkie1203 wrote:

This was judged boxing not point scoring. FMs face post fight tells us all we need to know about CmcGs poor technique and how ineffective it was.

You know exactly what I mean by point scoring.

sonofenoch · 28-08-2017 11:04AM

Conor via DQ

Maravilla33 wrote: »

Think I will have to give up the internet if Paulie vs McGregor ever happens. I can't do this again....

A fight with Malinaggi behind closed doors, no money no headgear just a ref and a video camera rolling.......how much does he want it

walshb · 28-08-2017 11:06AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Burkie1203 wrote: »

On what basis? ?

Watch the rds and you will see, no?

I gave him rds 1-3, with three being close..

4 and 5 were more Mayweather, but switching off Sky commentary and taking the rds as the full 3 mins on mute, I wouldn't call giving them to Conor as bad calls..Mayweather was much more active in 4 and 5, but Conor was also active and holding his own..

It might have been a case of giving to Floyd because, well, he was nonexistent in 1 and 2, and just competitive in rd 3..

Anyway, it's irrelevant as regards the outcome, but relevant when breaking down what exactly happened.

Burkie1203 · 28-08-2017 11:15AM

walshb wrote: »

Watch the rds and you will see, no?

I gave him rds 1-3, with three being close..

4 and 5 were more Mayweather, but switching off Sky commentary and taking the rds as the full 3 mins on mute, I wouldn't call giving them to Conor as bad calls..Mayweather was much more active in 4 and 5, but Conor was also active and holding his own..

It might have been a case of giving to Floyd because, well, he was nonexistent in 1 and 2, and just competitive in rd 3..

Anyway, it's irrelevant as regards the outcome, but relevant when breaking down what exactly happened.

But thats not how they judge fights. Ring craft, defensive capabilities all come into it.

CmcG won rd 1.
Rd 2 and 3 were even in my book. CmcG had no technique. Two of the three scorecards reflect that.

From here on FM controlled the fight. All aspects of it. It was played out at his pace.

walshb · 28-08-2017 11:21AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Burkie1203 wrote: »

But thats not how they judge fights. Ring craft, defensive capabilities all come into it.

CmcG won rd 1.
Rd 2 and 3 were even in my book. CmcG had no technique. Two of the three scorecards reflect that.

From here on FM controlled the fight. All aspects of it. It was played out at his pace.

I am well aware how rds are and can be judged...

I stand by my point..rds 4 and 5 being awarded to Conor wouldn't be bad calls..

Burkie1203 · 28-08-2017 11:23AM

walshb wrote: »

I am well aware how rds are and can be judged...

I stand by my point..rds 4 and 5 being awarded to Conor wouldn't be bad calls..

Would have been poor calls. FM was in control. He sussed CmcG out by then.

Ultimate Seduction · 28-08-2017 11:25AM

walshb wrote:

I stand by my point..rds 4 and 5 being awarded to Conor wouldn't be bad calls..

And rounds 1,2 or 3 going to Floyd would be bad calls.

I'm not making an argument that Conor could have won or anything, he was clearly outclassed in the end, but he clearly won 1,2,3 and scraped 4. 5 was even.

walshb · 28-08-2017 11:27AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Would have been poor calls. FM was in control. He sussed CmcG out by then.

May be..

Anyway, it was the beginning of the end for Conor. Fatigue was setting in..

walshb · 28-08-2017 11:28AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

And rounds 1,2 or 3 going to Floyd would be bad calls.

I'm not making an argument that Conor could have won or anything, he was clearly outclassed in the end, but he clearly won 1,2,3 and scraped 4. 5 was even.

Rd 3 was close. I scored to Conor, but giving it Floyd would not have been a bad call.

The Nal · 28-08-2017 11:29AM

Lets be honest it was a very easy fight for Mayweather. Conor did very well, better than expected, but was figured out after 2-3 rounds and then the inevitable set in. Typical Mayweather fight.

Mellor · 28-08-2017 11:32AM

Draw

paleoperson wrote: »

No the bet never registered. It never went through, there was a problem. It couldn't be made.

He said, post fight, that he didn't know how much money his guy got on. Turns out it was the $87k but for all he knew it was the full 400.

28-08-2017 11:33AM

Floyd via DQ

The Nal wrote: »

Hes 50-0. Marciano beat a lot of bums in that 49-0 and fought in one of the most uncompetitive times in heavyweight history.

Sure, Saturday was a bit of an exhibition match but no more valid than some of Marcianos fights.

Mayweather has beaten 22 world champions in those 50 fights.

But how many of the bums weren't boxers?
I'd be of the 49 - 0 view too.

The Nal · 28-08-2017 11:47AM

Augeo wrote: »

But how many of the bums weren't boxers?
I'd be of the 49 - 0 view too.

A good few journeymen and part timers who had as much boxing experience as Conor. Truck drivers who boxed at the weekends.

Like this guy. 62 fights, lost 42 of them. A punchbag. Most of Tysons early opponents were the same. Mayweathers 50 is more "legit" than Marcianos 49.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/12709

Sweet Science · 28-08-2017 11:52AM

Conor on points

His hands must be destroyed . He said he didnt spar in the month leading up to it.

Anybody know how many times he's broke a bone in either hand ?

Naos · 28-08-2017 11:54AM

A good post from r/zoraxdoom on the Mayweather could have beaten Conor at any moment:

This whole 'Conor only won the first 3 rounds because Mayweather let him' thing is such a nonsense argument.

If Mayweather could have starched Conor in the first 3 rounds with no risk, he would have. If any of us get in the ring there with Mayweather we're done in the first minute of Round 1. No question.

He couldn't do that to Conor because Conor showed enough nous, enough skill, and enough awkwardness to force Mayweather to sit back, watch, and figure out a path. Conor posed enough of a threat to earn those 3 rounds from Mayweather.

Likewise, if Mayweather could walk back out there in Round 4 and KO Conor, he would have. Why would he not? Why hold back? He himself said he expected it to be done in Round 6/7, but it took longer than he expected because Conor was a lot better than he expected.

Conor didn't win rounds due to pity from Floyd. Conor didn't make it to Round 10 because Floyd, for the first time in his life, in his final match, after the tickets had been sold and the PPVs bought, decided now is the time for him to put on a show for the fans. Now he will carry his opponent for 6 rounds more than he needed to, just to give the fans something to watch. That's ridiculous. He's KOed former world champions in 5 rounds, and he's gone 12 rounds of boring fighting in the biggest fight of his career at the time. He does what he needs to do to win the boxing match.

The match went to round 10 because Conor was good enough to warrant a 40 year old Floyd needing 10 rounds to stop him. Conor won all the rounds he won (3, 4,5 however you look at it) because he earned the respect of Floyd to the point where Floyd let him have those rounds.
I don't get why people are trying so hard to discredit what he did. He did very well, it was a good fight, and Mayweather won.

Why do people have such a chip on their shoulder about this? Why the negativity? Why the desire to discredit what just happened? I don't get it".

yourdeadwright · 28-08-2017 12:03PM

Floyd via DQ

Not trying to bash the guy but anyone have an idea on why McGregor's cardio is so bad,
Now I mean bad for a athlete at his level , I know its much better than anyone here but for a world level athlete, its the one thing you yourself have control over and it seems to let him down ,
Even in his two fights against Diaz his cardio went, I know they where tuff fights but guys like Bisping, Frankie, Lawler are constantly in tough fights and don't gas,
Could it be all the partying he does when he has long spell between fights ?

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