Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

XsApollo · 27-08-2017 11:19PM

Conor outboxing Floyd until he gassed ? :-D
One of the greatest boxers ever was out boxed by a 0-0.
I'm no boxing Fan , in fact I havn't stayed up for a boxing fight since Mike Tyson bit off Holyfields ear.
Conor outboxed nobody because Floyd wasn't doing anything.
When Floyd started doing anything it was game over.

Conor should of went in there and just threw hell for leather till he couldn't anymore, would of had a better chance than actually trying to box with Floyd.

Outlaw Pete · 28-08-2017 12:55AM

Floyd via DQ

https://twitter.com/GeorgeForeman/status/901688038622932992

earthwormjack · 28-08-2017 12:57AM

Floyd via DQ

Competitive my arse. It was a stroll after round 3 with Mayweather showing no respect for Conor whatsoever by walking at him in straight lines.

Outlaw Pete · 28-08-2017 01:08AM

Floyd via DQ

McGregor caught him lots during those rounds, it wasn't all one way traffic.

People saying the fight proves that Conor doesn't have power are having a laugh. You can see from the shots Conor was throwing, long before they landed, that they were not going to do much. Why he seemed to under perform in the regard I am not sure.

Not saying McGregor has huge power or anything but just that while he connected with Floyd quite a lot (111 punches - 2nd highest amount of shots any fighter has ever hit Floyd with) he never really hit him with anything of significance..... and that's just as well for Floyd as had they're been power on those shots, they would have hurt him.

Not competitive? Yeah, right.

Will I Am Not · 28-08-2017 01:12AM

Floyd via DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

McGregor caught him lots during those rounds, it wasn't all one way traffic.

People saying the fight proves that Conor doesn't have power are having a laugh. You can see from the shots Conor was throwing, long before they landed, that they were not going to do much. Why he seemed to under perform in the regard I am not sure.

Not saying McGregor has huge power or anything but just that while he connected with Floyd quite a lot (111 punches - 2nd highest amount of shots any fighter has ever hit Floyd with) he never really hit him with anything of significance..... and that's just as well for Floyd as had they're been power on those shots, they would have hurt him.

Not competitive? Yeah, right.

Is this one included in the 111 :pac:

https://twitter.com/yiannimanero/status/901688674018054144

earthwormjack · 28-08-2017 01:13AM

Floyd via DQ

It wasn't competitive. Little tapping shots that ya wouldn't see in a local gym. Floyd didn't give a toss what he was throwing at him after round 2. He kept plodding forward towards McGregor in straight lines. No feints, no shoulder rolls - nothing. It was a breeze for him.

He seemed to underperform because he can't punch. He doesn't seem to punch through an opponent, he kinda punches at them if ya get me.

paleoperson · 28-08-2017 01:29AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Mayweather was bouncing off the ropes at the end, as if he were ready to start a real fight. McGregor looked 80 years old.

bajer101 · 28-08-2017 02:53AM

Was just thinking what would happen if Conor boxed Andy Lee. Would be over very quickly.

Subcomandante Marcos · 28-08-2017 03:03AM

Floyd via DQ

bajer101 wrote: »

Was just thinking what would happen if Conor boxed Andy Lee. Would be over very quickly.

Andy is 6'2" and walks around over 190lbs and weighs 175+ on fight nights and cuts a decent amount of weight to make middle weight these days.

It's not really a fair question to ask. He's a much bigger man.

bajer101 · 28-08-2017 03:08AM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Andy is 6'2" and walks around over 190lbs and weighs 175+ on fight nights and cuts a decent amount of weight to make middle weight these days.

It's not really a fair question to ask. He's a much bigger man.

The point I'm making is that Conor would be knocked the fück out very, very quickly despite the slight weight difference. Different league. Andy would just knock him out for fun.

Rekop dog · 28-08-2017 03:54AM

Floyd via DQ

Slight difference

. Andy is a 6'2 middleweight, of course he would.

bajer101 · 28-08-2017 04:15AM

What? Andy is lighter than Diaz. Height is irrelevant. My point is that Andy would knock him out handy. Very handy.

Mellor · 28-08-2017 04:45AM

Draw

snowflaker wrote: »

Backing himself to win in 9.5 rounds seems he had his game plan all worked out.

There is a reason novice boxers don't fight 10/12 rounders. Floyd and everybody knows this

The fact he had back himself under 9.5 rounds (and didn't know how much he got on) is more damning if his performance than anything else. I'm aware the bet still came in, but there's no way he's planned to cutt it that close. I'd guess Conor survived a few rounds longer than anticipated.

paleoperson · 28-08-2017 05:17AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Mellor wrote: »

The fact he had back himself under 9.5 rounds (and didn't know how much he got on) is more damning if his performance than anything else. I'm aware the bet still came in, but there's no way he's planned to c utt it that close. I'd guess Conor survived a few rounds longer than anticipated.

No the bet never registered. It never went through, there was a problem. It couldn't be made.

People were also raising questions at the ethics/legality of making a specific bet on the scorecard of a fight. I think it should be totally 100% illegal - the only bet a person should be allowed to make is on their own victory because that's the goal of the fight. Any special bet makes a person less focused on winning. I'm sure Mayweather could have KOed him in 2 rounds if necessary, but he would have had to come in so fast and hard and left himself much more open, with a fresh McGregor it would have had some risk to go that hard that soon. So it could be argued specifying any amount of rounds is going to jeopardize the outcome to some degree.

snowflaker · 28-08-2017 08:04AM

Floyd via DQ

Fair play to McGrergor he lasted longer than expected, but anyone saying this fight was competitive is wearing very rose tinted glasses.

As a fight, it was dreadful, so many fouls and very little meaningful engagements.

Hope Conor enjoys his money and spends it wisely and doesn't end up bankrupt in 5 years.

ThinkProgress · 28-08-2017 08:13AM

Floyd via DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

You said you found it hard not to give him credit for the early rounds. So what?

I made other complimentary comments too...

But at the end of the day, they were insignificant in the grand scheme of things. So my praise for him, has to be limited in that respect.

You guys are desperately moving the goalposts... now it's all about how great he did to survive... how he landed a few weak ineffective punches... how he won a few rounds... :pac:

(rounds that were partly gifted to him, so Floyd could let him blow his load early and gas out later - plenty of evidence of Floyd doing this in his previous fights)

If you want to lift my previous quotes from this thread... why don't you go back to my very earliest posts (almost 2 months ago now), where I predicted pretty much everything that happened in this fight?? There were plenty of other posters, who did the same... so I am not trying to blow my own trumpet here. These things were blindingly obvious to us!

I said Conor's power would not transfer over to boxing... many times... I said his punches would not hurt Floyd (if he landed)... Was I wrong??

Those same punches, are dropping bloated wrestlers in the UFC like flies... but this isn't MMA! Floyd just smiled back at him, and walked him down!

I said 40 year old Floyd would drag his tired (29 year old) a$$ into the later rounds, and drown him... that Conor would not live with the pace of old man Floyd! I predicted this would be part of Floyd's strategy... Was I wrong??

I said Conor would become a boxer... that all the bruce lee martial artist guff, was a load of BS... and that's exactly what happened. He transformed himself into a rangy awkward boxer with a big heart, but a very limited skillset... there was nothing even remotely close to bruce lee in there!! lol

Why don't you go and pull out all those quotes...??

You don't have the stones, to admit that many of us called these things correctly....

You are just coming across, as a very bitter MMA fan... and it's a very ugly look!! Try showing a little bit more class... (if that's within your capabilities)

ThinkProgress · 28-08-2017 08:40AM

Floyd via DQ

Blueberry Pods wrote: »

You said Conor wouldn't land a punch on Floyd, you said Conor wouldn't win a round, were you wrong, yes, are you the one movinf the goal posts, yes.

I said, I wouldn't be surprised if Conor failed to land clean punches in this fight... I never said he absolutely wouldn't land any punches... get your facts straight!!!

I had my doubts he could land clean... but I never suggested that it was impossible for him to land a punch!

There is a big difference between those two things!

Yes, I did say it was very unlikely that Conor could win a round... I hold my hands up on that one... I was wrong. (but like I said, he did get more than a little bit of help from Floyd's fight strategy)

But no excuses... wrong is wrong. And I was off the mark on that particular one!

But I got the majority of my assessment on this "fight" correct... as did many other people on this forum. But posters like Pistol Pete, simply don't have the class or stones to acknowledge this... which is a rather sad reflection on them tbh!

Burkie1203 · 28-08-2017 09:13AM

ThinkProgress wrote: »

I see where you're coming from... part of me was anticipating some kind of masterclass too. Particularly as this was his big send-off.

But then another part of me, just knew that Floyd would be cautious. He has always been a slightly frustrating fighter that way... But is that not also part of his genius? He is a clever tactician... and he actually fights within his true abilities.

He was always in total control of the outcome of this fight. It's just that his tactics, were conservative. I guess leopard can't really change it's spots.

He's also not really a naturally offensive fighter. I think there were two fighters out there, trying to figure out what they were doing!! (slight exaggeration)

The one thing about FM was he had no idea what he would be facing in boxing terms. Its not like he could examine footage of past fights to devise a gameplan so he had to create one on the go as the early rounds went by. Once he figured his opponent out he just picked him off at will.

The Maliggnaggi stuff was poor from the McGregor camp too. Maybe its because we are in Ireland but I never saw any footage from the Mayweather training camp. McGregor seems to need to be in the midst of a media frenzy all the time and FM doesn't. FM was eating a burger king and partying with loads of pretry girls during the week before fight night. McGregor was desperately dropping weight.

The leaked video of sparring to prove McGregor can box was against a guy who has an Amir Khan inflicted "L" on his record.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 28-08-2017 09:20AM

Floyd via DQ

Overall I have to say McGregor did better than I thought. Won a round , connected with a couple of decent punches as well.

Mayweather just walked him down though, never really a contest, very one sided. McGregor just didn't have the skills to make it competitive.

Mayweather just far too good, so superior as a boxer and the composure and know how in a ring.

I doubt we ever see McGregor in a boxing ring again(no harm)

Burkie1203 · 28-08-2017 09:30AM

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

I doubt we ever see McGregor in a boxing ring again(no harm)

McGregor's ego says otherwise.

If he wants to be a serious boxer he needs to change his entire coaching setup. Loyalty wont save him from a savage beating if he steps in the boxing ring again. I don't think he would go the proper route to gain the experience either.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 28-08-2017 09:36AM

Floyd via DQ

Burkie1203 wrote: »

McGregor's ego says otherwise.

If he wants to be a serious boxer he needs to change his entire coaching setup. Loyalty wont save him from a savage beating if he steps in the boxing ring again. I don't think he would go the proper route to gain the experience either.

I dont think that's true, he had a chance to fight one of the best of all time a guy he has admired for years and make $100million.

He knows he was out of his depth but still gave it a shot. He landed some punches too but there is no doubt now that he just doesnt have the boxing skills to compete. I think that will keep him from getting in a ring again. Losing to possible the greatest of all time is no shame, to lose to someone like Paulie would break Conor and to be honest personally I couldn't take the build up if that fight ever gets made, I would have to self exclude myself from this place. Sell the TV and laptop and get myself a non smart phone so I didnt have to see any of it!

walshb · 28-08-2017 09:38AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Burkie1203 wrote: »

McGregor's ego says otherwise.

If he wants to be a serious boxer he needs to change his entire coaching setup. Loyalty wont save him from a savage beating if he steps in the boxing ring again. I don't think he would go the proper route to gain the experience either.

Let's put this to bed...Conor is done as being a serious boxer. It's quite clear from what we saw that he will never make a pro boxer of note.

Maravilla33 · 28-08-2017 09:47AM

Floyd via DQ

Just catching up on all of this. Unfortunately, the fight panned out in such a way that both 'sides'can claim I was right, you were wrong or a moral victory. For me it wasn't close and it wasn't a good fight.
Mayweather did what he wanted in there because he felt under no threat.When do you ever see him marching forward, hands held high, taking a few shots, throwing 3-4 and missing half of them? He was happy to take a few shots as it became clear early enough that McGregor does not have the technique or experience to be a big puncher in a boxing ring. We've never seen Mayweather as relaxed or sloppy and from an aesthetic point of view it did not look great.
We did not get to see the defensive wizardry, counter punching or the pinpoint accuracy as he did not need any of that and was able to do what he wanted. He did nothing for the first 2-3 rounds, let McGregor unload to see what he had and threw the odd jab to the body in return. It did just look like an exhibition to him. I'm glad McGregor went nearly 10 rounds and that he won a round or 2 but I think that could have been even more one sided had Mayweather wanted it to be.
To sum it up Floyd won at a canter but didn't look great, McGregor isn't a boxer and I'm glad it's over. Roll on GGG vs Canelo.

benny79 · 28-08-2017 09:51AM

Can I ask a question to the boxing experts. How did Conor only win the first round? I definitely taught he 100% won the second and even the third as Mayweather done absolutely nothing to justify winning them!

This is why I hate boxing.. I watched the Packy fight and I taught the judges were giving Mayweather a good few rounds that Paco was clearly winning. Same with the boxing in the olympics

Ultimate Seduction · 28-08-2017 10:03AM

Congratulations to the people who won soft money Saturday night. Fair play to the lads who predicted it almost to a tee. I think if Conor had decent cardio he would have troubled Floyd, he would have kept slipping an countering Floyd. Floyd wouldn't have come foward like that if Conor wasn't badly gassing either. End of the day he did gas and got an education on boxing conditioning. Fair play tho. Especially to Walsh who seems to have watched the same fight I did.

Burkie1203 · 28-08-2017 10:06AM

benny79 wrote: »

Can I ask a question to the boxing experts. How did Conor only win the first round? I definitely taught he 100% won the second and even the third as Mayweather done absolutely nothing to justify winning them!

This is why I hate boxing.. I watched the Packy fight and I taught the judges were giving Mayweather a good few rounds that Paco was clearly winning. Same with the boxing in the olympics

2nd and 3rd rounds for me would be about landing cleanly. CmcG threw a lot but he wasnt really connecting and his boxing technique was poor. They were very 50-50 rounds. FM was able to roll out of the punch so it was depowered on impact.

Andy Lee also pointed out on newstalk that CmcG had his gloves laced wrong. If thats true then its poor. Like who laced his gloves, his mother ????

After that it was easy picking for FM. Just stay out of trouble and wear CmcG down.

A bit like dublin v tyrone yesterday. Tyrone put 14 men inside their 45. Dubs were happy to drop back and keep the ball for 2 or 3 minutes at a time. Then work the opening to score.

benny79 · 28-08-2017 10:08AM

How much of a difference would gloves laced wrong make?

Burkie1203 · 28-08-2017 10:10AM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Congratulations to the people who won soft money Saturday night. Fair play to the lads who predicted it almost to a tee. I think if Conor had decent cardio he would have troubled Floyd, he would have kept slipping an countering Floyd. Floyd wouldn't have come foward like that if Conor wasn't badly gassing either. End of the day he did gas and got an education on boxing conditioning. Fair play tho. Especially to Walsh who seems to have watched the same fight I did.

FM was never going to lose. Even if CmcG wasnt gassed after 3 or 4 rounds, his technique was poor. His best shot, the uppercut, didnt trouble FM. A lot of the other stuff he landed was depowered.

Burkie1203 · 28-08-2017 10:11AM

benny79 wrote: »

How much of a difference would gloves laced wrong make?

Lee said that they can soften or harden the impact zone of the glove depending on how they are done

Edit
Pacman did a lot more damage to FMs face with 30 punches fewer then CmcG. Look at the photos of post fight pressers

Ultimate Seduction · 28-08-2017 10:14AM

Burkie1203 wrote:

FM was never going to lose. Even if CmcG wasnt gassed after 3 or 4 rounds, his technique was poor. His best shot, the uppercut, didnt trouble FM. A lot of the other stuff he landed was depowered.

His technique wasn't boxing technique but it was effective point scoring and would have troubled Floyd, at least make him work hard if Conor had the conditioning to go with the game plan.

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