Israel tells Russia we will attack Iran.

Cheerful Spring · 24-08-2017 2:18pm #1

More crazy news . Israel threatens a regional war if Iran does not remove it's forces from Syria.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Putin, they will act alone if Iran does not leave Syria.

Iran is already well on its way to controlling Iraq, Yemen and to a large extent is already in practice in control of Lebanon," Mr Netanyahu told Mr Putin.

"We cannot forget for a single minute that Iran threatens every day to annihilate Israel," he said. "Israel opposes Iran's continued entrenchment in Syria. We will be sure to defend ourselves with all means against this and any threat."

Looks like the end time/ Bible war could potentially happen?

http://www.smh.com.au/world/threatening-strike-in-syria-israel-tells-russia-iran-is-greater-threat-than-is-20170824-gy36i9.html

A Little Pony · 24-08-2017 2:22pm

You can't trust the Persians. Benjamin is right.

donegaLroad · 24-08-2017 2:25pm

A few years ago Iran started trading their oil for commodities because of sanctions, which meant that they dropped the US dollar for trading oil. Gadaffi did the same in 2011, and Saddam also threatened to drop the dollar in favour of the Euro in 2001.

Cheerful Spring · 24-08-2017 2:26pm

A Little Pony wrote: »

You can't trust the Persians. Benjamin is right.

It's a big news story in Israel.

Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman warned that Israel will not remain a bystander as Iran creates a new reality in the Middle East.

"Iran, through the Revolutionary Guard, is trying to create a new reality around us with Iranian air and naval bases in Syria, with Shiite militias with thousands of mercenaries and precision weapons being produced in Lebanon,” he said. “The State of Israel does not intend to remain a bystander and accept these attempts.”

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Defense-Minister-Avigdor-Liberman-Israel-will-not-be-a-bystander-in-Syria-503324

If Iran tries to establish a base there, Israel will take it out, they have done so in the past.

backspin. · 24-08-2017 2:31pm

donegaLroad wrote: »

Gadaffi did the same in 2011, and Saddam also threatened to drop the dollar in favour of the Euro in 2001.

A sorry end they met too.

I would hate to see a similar mess made of Iran as has been made of Syria, Libya and Iraq.

Cheerful Spring · 24-08-2017 2:31pm

donegaLroad wrote: »

A few years ago Iran started trading their oil for commodities because of sanctions, which meant that they dropped the US dollar for trading oil. Gadaffi did the same in 2011, and Saddam also threatened to drop the dollar in favour of the Euro in 2001.

Israel has been threatening Iran for decades, sooner or later, they are going to fight. They left it too late for it it to be a short quick war. Now Iran is more powerful, it's allied up with Russia, Iraq and Syria and Lebanon.

backspin. · 24-08-2017 2:35pm

I wonder is this the war the monied armament elites have wanted. Plenty of money to be made if the Americans and the Israelis get to start launching high spec weaponry into Iran.

Gatling · 24-08-2017 2:47pm

Iran will struggle against isreal in a conventional war ,
Syria are a spent force military and russia has limited forces who are doing the fighting in Syria ,
Isreal has repeatedly shown they will take on multiple combined larger forces and win decisively ,
Then factor in what america will do along with Saudi and a few others who want iran dealth with

Gringo180 · 24-08-2017 3:10pm

A Little Pony wrote: »

You can't trust the Persians. Benjamin is right.

Sorry remind me again what countries Iran have attacked in recent times? Would you trust Israel, a nation who are violating international law with there illegal settlements in the occupied territories and who have attacked there allies in the past.

Victor · 24-08-2017 3:16pm

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Israel tells Russia we will attack Iran.

The lying ****ers - Ireland isn't planning on attacking anyone.

Gringo180 · 24-08-2017 3:18pm

Gatling wrote: »

Isreal has repeatedly shown they will take on multiple combined larger forces and win decisively ,

Couldn't defeat Hezbollah in 2006 and you think they could take on the Russians. Lol

Cheerful Spring · 24-08-2017 3:19pm

Gatling wrote: »

Iran will struggle against isreal in a conventional war ,
Syria are a spent force military and russia has limited forces who are doing the fighting in Syria ,
Isreal has repeatedly shown they will take on multiple combined larger forces and win decisively ,
Then factor in what america will do along with Saudi and a few others who want iran dealth with

Israel struggled during the 2006 war against Hezbollah and lost many battles. They lost over 180 soldiers in just two months. Hezbollah lost 300 to 350 soldiers. Israel would had time winning a war now, against a Shia army that is battle hardened fighting wars in Syria and Iraq.

We have no idea if Iran is going to keep a military presence in Syria? Russia could pressure Iran to remove it's troops to keep the peace? Or it could do nothing? Isreal is a country willing to go it alone if necessary, we do at least know that much, and this a big deal, if Iran does decide FU Israel we not going anywhere?

Gringo180 · 24-08-2017 3:25pm

Can the mods not move this into the Politics Cafe as that forum is gone to sh1te.

A Little Pony · 24-08-2017 3:28pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

You can't trust the Persians. Benjamin is right.

Sorry remind me again what countries Iran have attacked in recent times? Would you trust Israel, a nation who are violating international law with there illegal settlements in the occupied territories and who have attacked there allies in the past.

I can not go against the Jewish state of Israel. I would be committing dishonor.

Gatling · 24-08-2017 3:29pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Couldn't defeat Hezbollah in 2006 and you think they could take on the Russians. Lol

Yes I do ,didn't have a problem attacking a US naval vessel remember ,

Israel has their own friends russia prefers weak countries that don't have much of a fight ,like east Ukraine and Georgia ,

Galwayguy35 · 24-08-2017 3:34pm

Israel hasn't the firepower to take on Iran on it's own surely?

I know the yanks would back them but I was just wondering who has the biggest military, Iran or Israel.

Gatling · 24-08-2017 3:35pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Can the mods not move this into the Politics Cafe as that forum is gone to sh1te.

Lol typical can't win it ,
let's hide it

Nettle Soup · 24-08-2017 3:38pm

Never mind Netanyahoo!

He is up to this tits in corruption charges at home and is trying to deflect.

Politicians....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/can-benjamin-netanyahu-survive-corruption-investigations-swirling/

Cheerful Spring · 24-08-2017 3:40pm

Gatling wrote: »

Yes I do ,didn't have a problem attacking a US naval vessel remember ,

Israel has their own friends russia prefers weak countries that don't have much of a fight ,like east Ukraine and Georgia ,

The attack was a false flag event. How can you not spot an American flag, during a summer day ? This crap going on for a long time.

Gatling · 24-08-2017 3:40pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Israel hasn't the firepower to take on Iran on it's own surely?

I know the yanks would back them but I was just wondering who has the biggest military, Iran or Israel.

It's not biggest that counts it's the ability of it's forces ,iran suffered high casualties in Syria around 10,000+ deaths and almost double amount on the casualties list against poor trained and poorly equipped rebels ,
Israel has always fought against bigger forces and won

Gatling · 24-08-2017 3:42pm

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

The attack was a false flag event.

It happened and Israel knew what it hit ,

No false flag there unfortunately

BillyBobBS · 24-08-2017 3:47pm

The middle east is a basket case. We could argue all day long about who's fault that is but eventually it will lead to WW3. Maybe in reality it's already started but we just don't realise it yet.

Arsemageddon · 24-08-2017 3:48pm

Israel does not attack any country capable of fighting back.

Netanyahu is a first rate bull sh1ttter.

Cheerful Spring · 24-08-2017 3:51pm

Gatling wrote: »

It happened and Israel knew what it hit ,

No false flag there unfortunately

The survivors all said it was deliberate attack. It was a cover up. When the survivors, were able to identify the origin of the plane, only then did Israel and America agree to say it was a mistake.

Israeli reconnaissance aircraft repeatedly buzzed the Liberty, and a big America flag was waving! Do you think they going to miss a big a American flag? Do you honestly believe they heard no radio transmissions ( with American accents) and they saw no White American males onboard the ship? It was a false flag they wanted to blame the Arabs.

Elmer Blooker · 24-08-2017 3:52pm

Gatling wrote: »

It's not biggest that counts it's the ability of it's forces ,iran suffered high casualties in Syria around 10,000+ deaths and almost double amount on the casualties list against poor trained and poorly equipped rebels ,

Poorly equipped? The endless convoys of Toyotas? The TOW missiles? Who fed the jihadists, supplied them with uniforms, money, etc etc ... I could go on and on.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-begins-weapons-delivery-to-syrian-rebels/2013/09/11/9fcf2ed8-1b0c-11e3-a628-7e6dde8f889d_story.html

Cheerful Spring · 24-08-2017 3:54pm

Gatling wrote: »

It's not biggest that counts it's the ability of it's forces ,iran suffered high casualties in Syria around 10,000+ deaths and almost double amount on the casualties list against poor trained and poorly equipped rebels ,
Israel has always fought against bigger forces and won

US government spent over $500m on fake Al-Qaeda propaganda videos that tracked location of viewers

A former contractor for a UK-based public relations firm says that the Pentagon paid more than half a billion dollars for the production and dissemination of fake Al-Qaeda videos that portrayed the insurgent group in a negative light.

The Bureau of Investigative Journalism reported that the PR firm, Bell Pottinger, worked alongside top US military officials at Camp Victory in Baghdad at the height of the Iraq War. The agency was tasked with crafting TV segments in the style of unbiased Arabic news reports, videos of Al-Qaeda bombings that appeared to be filmed by insurgents, and anti-insurgent commercials – and those who watched the videos could be tracked by US forces.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/us-government-pentagon-fake-al-qaeda-propganda-videos-a7348371.html

Ash.J.Williams · 24-08-2017 3:55pm

They can't stand idley by whilst Iran helps rebuild the their devestated neighbours after years of bomb attacks and wars

Gatling · 24-08-2017 3:57pm

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

A former contractor for a UK-based public relations firm says that the Pentagon paid more than half a billion dollars for the production and dissemination of fake Al-Qaeda videos that portrayed the insurgent group in a negative light.

And ....

Your Face · 24-08-2017 3:58pm

Yet my post still arrived this morning.

Cheerful Spring · 24-08-2017 4:02pm

Gatling wrote: »

And ....

You don't see any problem making fake terrorist videos?
http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/03/the-pentagon-spent-540-million-on-fake-terrorist-videos/

backspin. · 24-08-2017 4:08pm

Trump might like the distraction too.

24-08-2017 4:10pm

backspin. wrote: »

Trump might like the distraction too.

From what? The last "distraction" in NK?

Fred Swanson · 24-08-2017 4:14pm

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Gringo180 · 24-08-2017 4:21pm

Gatling wrote: »

Lol typical can't win it ,
let's hide it

Nothing got to do with the topic. Have you seen how bad that forum has got. Like a ghost town since it was changed.

Gringo180 · 24-08-2017 4:27pm

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Israel will whopp Iran if they wanted to. Far superior armed forces and weapons.

This isnt Iraq were talking about. Any attack on Iran will lead to massive casualties in Israel and on mainland America where the Iranians have plenty of nationals that will want to exact revenge. There will be marshall law in Los Angelos within days if they strike Iran.

Gringo180 · 24-08-2017 4:35pm

silly_move wrote: »

israel could take on any force and win as israel going to war means always having uncle sam at their back

many believe iran , iraq , syria , all this space will be part of israel one day , with the usa making it happen of course

never underestimate how powerful israel is , it has the wealthiest diaspora of any nation on earth by a country mile

Very true the Israeli's have well and truely infiltrated Congress. Think Benjamin Netanyahoo got something like 34 standing ovations when he made his speech there a few years back. Sickening to watch.

nacho libre · 24-08-2017 4:42pm

Gatling wrote: »

Iran will struggle against isreal in a conventional war ,
Syria are a spent force military and russia has limited forces who are doing the fighting in Syria ,
Isreal has repeatedly shown they will take on multiple combined larger forces and win decisively ,
Then factor in what america will do along with Saudi and a few others who want iran dealth with

In some of those wars if it wasn't for American backing they would have lost. Despite Russia's alliance with Syria they privately give their approval for Israel to carry out attacks inside Syria provided no Russian are caught up in it. Russia and Israel have good relations. Russia won't go to war with Israel. Bibi is likely stoking the fire to deflect from his problems domestically.

Gringo180 · 24-08-2017 4:49pm

silly_move wrote: »

gringo , id have a jew over a muslim every time but the unconditional support by both parties towards israel in congress is disturbing and all down to wall st money

Nothing to do with Religion. Its more to do with Israels human rights record. They have more UNresolutions than every other member combined.

Gatling · 24-08-2017 4:51pm

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

You don't see any problem making fake terrorist videos?

So supposedly allegedly according to one person ,
The pentagon supposedly had a private company make video/s to make a Terrorist organisation look bad ,

But why would they need to make a Terrorist organisation look bad ,like read that part back out loud they hired a PR firm to make a Terrorist organisation look bad ,

Comical

The_Valeyard · 24-08-2017 4:54pm

Sometimes I wonder if we are all part of an advanced version of the game 'Civilisation' and Player One has gotten bored and decided to be a d1ck.

Gatling · 24-08-2017 4:56pm

nacho libre wrote: »

Russia won't go to war with Israel. Bibi is likely stoking the fire to deflect from his problems domestically.

Which makes it more likely that Israel would go to war and take out Iran ,
And who will they call first when they go after Iran ,
Uncle Donald or valdi

stevedublin · 24-08-2017 5:01pm

Deleted User wrote: »

From what? The last "distraction" in NK?

from Russia controversy, Charlottesville controversy, low opinion poll ratings, lack of support for his agenda in Congress (even from his own political party, the Republicans).... etc. etc.

I agree with you in saying that the North Korean spat was not a distraction (it was for real imho)

Gringo180 · 24-08-2017 5:02pm

silly_move wrote: »

well israel do get resolutions thrown at them by fairly dubious arab nations , its like shooting fish in a barrell and diverts attention from other things on the arab street

Are you for real? Its actually the polar opposite. Its the U.S and a handful of other tiny nations that veto any sanctions been brought against Israel :pac:

stevedublin · 24-08-2017 5:05pm

Gatling wrote: »

...
And who will they call first when they go after Iran ,
Uncle Donald or valdi

probably both imho
Iran is a big energy exporter and so an economic competitor with Russia (and arguably the US).

wotzgoingon · 24-08-2017 5:08pm

I'm not too up to date on politics and what not but I do know America pays Israel billions of dollars every year. Anyone know why that is?

I reckon the Irish should start asking for a few quid as well.

Ireland: Show me the money.

America: No

Ireland: What! Your giving it to Israel you tight bastards.

Gatling · 24-08-2017 5:44pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I'm not too up to date on politics and what not but I do know America pays Israel billions of dollars every year. Anyone know why that is?

Business , they are essentially paying isreal to keep out of their Defence systems sales

donegaLroad · 24-08-2017 6:06pm

Article from 3 days ago

Iran awaits more crude oil cargoes to officially resume Caspian oil swap deal soon

Tehran (Platts)--21 Aug 2017 933 am EDT/1333 GMT

Iran is set to receive another nine crude oil cargoes as part of a Caspian oil swap deal which is due to officially resume soon, and could also start its planned oil-for-goods deal with Russia by early October, government officials said on Saturday.

recently, several more countries have agreed to participate in swapping goods for oil with Iran, including Russia. This could lead to contagion and result in a dollar crash and the possible end of the petro-dollar.

Already, people in Venezuela have turned to the Bitcoin because of hyperinflation.

Gatling · 24-08-2017 6:58pm

donegaLroad wrote: »

Article from 3 days ago

recently, several more countries have agreed to participate in swapping goods for oil with Iran, including Russia. This could lead to contagion and result in a dollar crash and the possible end of the petro-dollar.

Already, people in Venezuela have turned to the Bitcoin because of hyperinflation.

Venezuela is all it's own making , unfortunately true ,

Iseedeadpixels · 24-08-2017 7:02pm

In before someone blames this on Trump.

Esel · 24-08-2017 7:04pm

Gatling wrote: »

Venezuela is all it's own making , unfortunately true ,

You don't think there is US-caused destabilisation going on there?

SEPT 23 1989 · 24-08-2017 7:26pm

I would like to see it happen just to see what weapons Israel has developed

Israel tells Russia we will attack Iran.

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