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kk.man · 21-08-2017 02:21PM

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Have 10 Hex here at the moment pretty much almost ready to go.
Debating whether I shift them in the next fortnight or so out of the field. But with prices down am thinking of hlolding them a little longer.They are good growthy type and should carry another 20/30kg LW before having to worry about being over fat.
Am I wasting money if I was to feed them 3/4kg of a 16%nut for 3 weeks let's say starting next week.

I understand your prediment ...it's a crystal ball in short...34k plus kill last week

Muckit · 21-08-2017 02:24PM

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Have 10 Hex...
Am I wasting money if I was to feed them 3/4kg of a 16%nut for 3 weeks let's say starting next week.

The first thing that jumps out at me is you talking about protein. You really don't need to worry about this for finishing cattle as they only require around 12-14%. Grass alone will supply this. Most silage should even test around the 12%.

It's energy value IN a concentrate that u want to be looking at. The energy in grass declines rapidly at this time of year. Most bagstuff won't show the energy value because they don't have to by law. Don't be fooled by flashy advertising and packaging 'Super' this and 'supreme' that don't account for much in terms of nuitrition!!

Stick to straight rolled barley would be my bit of advice. Even if u are paying the same price/tonne as fancy bagstuff you are getting more bang for your buck.

whelan2 · 24-08-2017 10:02AM

11 year old Angus bull. U2 528 kg@ €2.80= 1479

wiggy123 · 24-08-2017 12:50PM

done good Whelan.. looking a angus bull now? haha

whelan2 · 24-08-2017 12:54PM

wiggy123 wrote: »

done good Whelan.. looking a angus bull now? haha

Do ya know of any good ones...... he got no meal. He didn't owe us anything

wiggy123 · 24-08-2017 12:58PM

to true-he did great job for ye's! ah few bulls floating about :-)

patsy_mccabe · 24-08-2017 02:16PM

whelan2 wrote: »

11 year old Angus bull. U2 528 kg@ €2.80= 1479

Canadian breeding? What was his calving figure on ICBF?

whelan2 · 24-08-2017 03:41PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Canadian breeding? What was his calving figure on ICBF?

calving index figure of 20 euro , ye out of lissard mark, has bang breeding on other side

riemann · 24-08-2017 06:01PM

Lads anyone hear what Ballyhaunis are paying base for in spec steers this week?

Dozer1 · 25-08-2017 12:44PM

got the docket back from 1st heifer I've sent to Larry in a few years
307Kgs @ €4.08 inc bonus came into €1256 think she was an R+
pic of her a few pages back, happy enough.

Bought her last May for €790 to breed from but didn't work out, never saw a nut from the day she arrived.

FeelTheBern · 25-08-2017 02:07PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

got the docket back from 1st heifer I've sent to Larry in a few years
307Kgs @ €4.08 inc bonus came into €1256 think she was an R+
pic of her a few pages back, happy enough.

Bought her last May for €790 to breed from but didn't work out, never saw a nut from the day she arrived.

Think I was suggesting she was heading towards the fat side at the time !! - just wondering what her fat score was?

Bass Reeves · 25-08-2017 02:14PM

FeelTheBern wrote: »

Think I was suggesting she was heading towards the fat side at the time !! - just wondering what her fat score was?

She was 4= at worst as she seems to have got the QA unless she was flat prices. 3.9 base +12c QA and 6c for R+

FeelTheBern · 25-08-2017 02:47PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

She was 4+ at worst as she seems to have got the QA unless she was flat prices. 3.9 base +12c QA and 6c for R+

Would she not have been outside QA spec at 4+? Thought 4= would have been max she could have been to get that.

Bass Reeves · 25-08-2017 02:56PM

FeelTheBern wrote: »

Would she not have been outside QA spec at 4+? Thought 4= would have been max she could have been to get that.

Sorry 4= held down the shift key when putting it in

FeelTheBern · 25-08-2017 03:02PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Sorry 4= held down the shift key when putting it in

Sound. Unfortunately I'm only familiar with this after having a 4+ of my own recently ..ðŸ˜¥

Dozer1 · 25-08-2017 04:44PM

r+ 3+ so close enough to too fat 3.90 base

Bass Reeves · 25-08-2017 06:17PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

r+ 3+ so close enough to too fat 3.90 base

I consider that a bit off overfat. She would have carried another month of feeding. However if she was killed a month ago she would have came into the same money if not more. Would she have killed 290 kgs 4-5 weeks ago.

MIKEKC · 25-08-2017 06:23PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Do ya know of any good ones...... he got no meal. He didn't owe us anything

Would you not be hoping that he would leave a profit?

Muckit · 25-08-2017 06:54PM

Stock bull

Dozer1 · 25-08-2017 09:41PM

I wouldn't be used to judging finished cattle she stopped growing up and started fattening pretty quick.

Plan was to sell her live with a younger larger batch as I haven't time to go mart more regularly

darragh_haven · 28-08-2017 01:34PM

Sent 20 bullocks and 8 heifers away this morning. Agent had booked them in and didnt tell us till saturday. Said they were dropping 5 cent if thry aren't in this morning and anothe 5 cent drop next week.
Rang a different hauler and he he couldn't match the price. Sent them away anyway as it looks like the factories are using the decline in sterling to cut the sh1te out of price

Pidae.m · 28-08-2017 06:34PM

darragh_haven wrote: »

Sent 20 bullocks and 8 heifers away this morning. Agent had booked them in and didnt tell us till saturday. Said they were dropping 5 cent if thry aren't in this morning and anothe 5 cent drop next week.
Rang a different hauler and he he couldn't match the price. Sent them away anyway as it looks like the factories are using the decline in sterling to cut the sh1te out of price

He done you a good turn. Ya looking like another cut again this week. Squeaky bum time!

Cavanjack · 28-08-2017 06:52PM

darragh_haven wrote: »

Sent 20 bullocks and 8 heifers away this morning. Agent had booked them in and didnt tell us till saturday. Said they were dropping 5 cent if thry aren't in this morning and anothe 5 cent drop next week.
Rang a different hauler and he he couldn't match the price. Sent them away anyway as it looks like the factories are using the decline in sterling to cut the sh1te out of price

What was base price?

Bass Reeves · 28-08-2017 07:59PM

darragh_haven wrote: »

Sent 20 bullocks and 8 heifers away this morning. Agent had booked them in and didnt tell us till saturday. Said they were dropping 5 cent if thry aren't in this morning and anothe 5 cent drop next week.
Rang a different hauler and he he couldn't match the price. Sent them away anyway as it looks like the factories are using the decline in sterling to cut the sh1te out of price

It has nothing to doo with sterling or at least very little. From the Journal on the week starting the 14/8 we killed 4K cattle more than last year. 45K more to be killed between now and the rest of the year. In reality that 45K extra will go through the system over the next 10 weeks. Factory's will have as much cattle as they like. Only thing that might cause a change is if numbers of over 36 month bullocks are way below last year I do not think this will translate into this years figures.

Danzy · 28-08-2017 08:47PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

It has nothing to doo with sterling or at least very little. From the Journal on the week starting the 14/8 we killed 4K cattle more than last year. 45K more to be killed between now and the rest of the year. In reality that 45K extra will go through the system over the next 10 weeks. Factory's will have as much cattle as they like. Only thing that might cause a change is if numbers of over 36 month bullocks are way below last year I do not think this will translate into this years figures.

They are going to make October finishing the new winter finishing, profit wise.

Bass Reeves · 28-08-2017 08:52PM

Danzy wrote: »

They are going to make October finishing the new winter finishing, profit wise.

October finishing is always more expensive than lads think. If weather si wrong damage to fields and feeding 5+kgs of ration. Even with barley straight it is well over a euro/day on barley alone. If they manage to stack cattle in by insisting on booking them in 2-3 weeks in advance it is a real money pit. For every 10 cattle maybe costing 100+ euro a week including grass cutting up ground and trying to maybe feed silage outside as well.

Danzy · 28-08-2017 09:07PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

October finishing is always more expensive than lads think. If weather si wrong damage to fields and feeding 5+kgs of ration. Even with barley straight it is well over a euro/day on barley alone. If they manage to stack cattle in by insisting on booking them in 2-3 weeks in advance it is a real money pit. For every 10 cattle maybe costing 100+ euro a week including grass cutting up ground and trying to maybe feed silage outside as well.

I have a ban of them for next year and they'll have a reasonably happy target and once they can hit that, they'll get the bolt.

The other half can stick around as usual.

White Clover · 28-08-2017 09:39PM

Whatever about numbers, would it make more sense to talk about throughput in tonnes? After all, all these dairy bred cattle are much lighter.

Muckit · 28-08-2017 09:50PM

White Clover wrote: »

Whatever about numbers, would it make more sense to talk about throughout in tonnes? After all, all these dairy bred cattle are much lighter.

Good man. Like all statistics they can be manipulated to suit the story or mirage certain parties want to portray.

Slaughter numbers on their own mean very little when you think about it.

But it's not about thinking rationally.

darragh_haven · 28-08-2017 10:29PM

I'm doing a job for a factory in Co. Armagh and the owner stated he's £4.05 / kg (approx €4.45) for bullocks. How can he offer this and our own cartels are down to €3.85/kg.

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