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Rose of Tralee - RIP?

  • 21-08-2017 10:57am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭


    Is it time to put it out to pasture?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    What about the bums though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    What about the bums though?

    Ffs. They all have lovely bottoms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    It makes a profit, it's on TV in mid week in August, not one cent of licence fee money is needed for it - if you don't like it you neither need to be involved nor watch it.

    hence it can stay for as long as it likes for those who wish to watch it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,573 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    What about the bums though?


    Does it impede your life in some way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Cervantes2


    Just change the channel....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Does it impede your life in some way?

    Depends how big they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,129 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Is it time to put it out to pasture?

    Its like the Eurovision. Lots of people claim to hate it but secretly love it.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Long may it live!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    not one cent of licence fee money is needed for it

    How so?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Oasis1974


    Surely in 2017 this poor excuse for carrot cruncher porn should be taken off the air. Herding women on to a stage and treating them like spastics just typify us Oirish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,316 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    It makes a profit, it's on TV in mid week in August, not one cent of licence fee money is needed for it - if you don't like it you neither need to be involved nor watch it.

    hence it can stay for as long as it likes for those who wish to watch it.

    Impossible. People cant work a remote apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    It'll exist as long as people want it to exist. There are microcosms all over the country of things that are huge to one group and meaningless to everyone else - Rose of Tralee, Ploughing Championships, the Galway Races, Dublin Theatre Festival, Cork Jazz Festival.

    You will find people for whom each of these things are personally a massive event, one of their main events in the calendar, for them the event was a highlight of their upbringing, as much as Xmas or Paddy's Day. While the rest of us have never and will never attend it because we're not interested.

    One of the previous winners was on the radio on Friday talking about what a big event it is for everyone, how everyone grows up watching the festival and dreaming about being there, the great buzz in the lead up to it. And all I could think about what how she clearly lives in a very different world from I.

    And that's how it is. The RoT will continue so long as there are people who watch it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 398 ✭✭DanMurphy


    Never heard of women being 'herded onto a stage' for the Rose.
    They are all volunteers and it's a cut-throat competition to proudly represent their country or city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Oasis1974 wrote: »
    Surely in 2017 this poor excuse for carrot cruncher porn should be taken off the air. Herding women on to a stage and treating them like spastics just typify us Oirish.

    There is really no male interest in it though. Porn or otherwise. It is women who make up the audience, all keen to see who is the 'loveliest' of the 'lovely'.

    It is silly and were it within my power I would ban it. But then the adult in me remembers that other people are different and enjoy different things and I let it go like the harmless foolishness that it is.

    As for it continuing beyond 2017, that is 'all about the Benjamins' as our rapper pals say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    On one hand; a tv 'spectacular' of declining interest, I don't know if it's the national talking point as it once was, esp with the younger generation.
    On the other; it's an excuse for many to come into Tralee and get completely rat-arsed so the pub, restaurant, hotel and b&b owners will be kept happy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    Depends how big they are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    2016 strikes again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    A while back, there was a debate on transgender women entering the contest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭Steve F


    seamus wrote: »
    It'll exist as long as people want it to exist. There are microcosms all over the country of things that are huge to one group and meaningless to everyone else - Rose of Tralee, Ploughing Championships, the Galway Races, Dublin Theatre Festival, Cork Jazz Festival.

    You will find people for whom each of these things are personally a massive event, one of their main events in the calendar, for them the event was a highlight of their upbringing, as much as Xmas or Paddy's Day. While the rest of us have never and will never attend it because we're not interested.

    One of the previous winners was on the radio on Friday talking about what a big event it is for everyone, how everyone grows up watching the festival and dreaming about being there, the great buzz in the lead up to it. And all I could think about what how she clearly lives in a very different world from I.

    And that's how it is. The RoT will continue so long as there are people who watch it.

    That's the "Golden Cleric" award for me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Letting women from outside Ireland enter still seems like an act of desperation to keep it going. It worked for a while but the old fashioned Irishness of the thing doesn't really seem in line with attracting American women or 'feminists' who want to completely change what it is.
    Last week 2016 Sydney Rose Brianna Parkins urged for women from more diverse backgrounds to enter the competition.

    She Tweeted: “I need to hand over the tiara and sash soon. Calling all boss ladies to apply for 2017.

    “Calling all feminists/mixed race/queer/trans ladies to apply for the Rose wherever you live. I would just like to see the Rose reflect modern Irish society at home and abroad.

    “It can be intimidating to
    minorities as they might not have been represented in the past.

    “I’m a hetero white woman with a degree and even I felt I wasn’t “Rose” enough.

    “It makes it a hell of a lot more interesting if you have people with different life stories on stage.”

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/whats-on-news/transgender-women-barred-entering-rose-9742040


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I think it's pretty harmless really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    It still is a very successful events. Tralee has being basically packed every night for the packed week and over the next two night it will probably end up having a very high viewership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    It's the parading of the cailíní that gets me. I don't like women being treated like objects and made to show off their ahem, skills live on TV. But I don't watch it, It is not compulsory to enter and be selected, so I'm grand I suppose.

    I know one of the Roses was gay, but the day we have men or transgender allowed in will be great fun.

    The escorts wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

    It is an anachronism in today's society, much like the Late Late Show with skinny malink.

    But some sad people watch both. I don't and I polish my halo now and then too ha ha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Letting women from outside Ireland enter still seems like an act of desperation to keep it going. It worked for a while but the old fashioned Irishness of the thing doesn't really seem in line with attracting American women or 'feminists' who want to completely change what it is.
    ...

    It became an "International" competition in 1967. So if it was a desperate act to "keep it going", then it seems to have worked.

    The point being made in that piece is that the competition is still largely a lovely girls competition featuring white Irish women of the diddly extraction.

    Whereas it might be appealing to a much wider audience if you had a black girl from Buncrana performing a traditional Morrocan dance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    seamus wrote: »
    ...

    It became an "International" competition in 1967. So if it was a desperate act to "keep it going", then it seems to have worked.

    The point being made in that piece is that the competition is still largely a lovely girls competition featuring white Irish women of the diddly extraction.

    Whereas it might be appealing to a much wider audience if you had a black girl from Buncrana performing a traditional Morrocan dance.

    Or just an ordinary man would probably shake it up too.

    Surprised the shocked and indignant feminists haven't picketed it yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    seamus wrote: »
    ...

    It became an "International" competition in 1967. So if it was a desperate act to "keep it going", then it seems to have worked.

    The point being made in that piece is that the competition is still largely a lovely girls competition featuring white Irish women of the diddly extraction.

    Whereas it might be appealing to a much wider audience if you had a black girl from Buncrana performing a traditional Morrocan dance.

    I thought I remembered news reports from about 15 years ago saying that women from abroad were now welcome. I must be mistaken.

    Having said that it's still not some progressive event. The woman commenting is taking part in a competition for pretty girls between the ages of 18 and 28 who have never been married. Rather than accepting it for what it is is, which is an an old fashioned beauty competition, she wants to turn it into some right on festival for transgenders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    topper75 wrote: »
    There is really no male interest in it though.

    And shur what about tishimselfbegob: Daw-Hee.

    And shur jaysus, aren't they all little crackers, altogether, hah?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,316 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Letting women from outside Ireland enter still seems like an act of desperation to keep it going. It worked for a while but the old fashioned Irishness of the thing doesn't really seem in line with attracting American women or 'feminists' who want to completely change what it is.



    http://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/whats-on-news/transgender-women-barred-entering-rose-9742040

    95% sure everyone involved regrets giving this one any screentime. Utter pain in the hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,349 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Maybe once upon a time when people had a choice of 1 or 2 TV channels then you could complain. But today with gazillions of options it is so easy to avoid it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Cowboys, Ted! They're a bunch of cowboys!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    The Rose of Tralee is a very silly jaded format. I do think it should not be televised in its entirity. The festival itself is good for Tralee but does anyone really need 8 hours of Daithi O'Shea acting the idiot? The festival has also been hijacked by bad modern country acts in recent years. The only respite from Daithi O'Shea is listening to some joker calling himself Lee Matthews singing some woeful stage Irish made up for the event song. Another excuse for the media yet again to promote this awful music. If this is all the festival can provide, then it should be reviewed BIGTIME.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭desbrook


    My attitude to TROT is like my attitude to yellow front doors. I've no interest in painting my front door yellow in fact I think they are yuck. I recognise though that lots of people love their yellow front doors and I'd defend anyones right ro paint their door whatever bloody colour they want.
    Likewise I recognise that TROT gets huge ratings.In fact the only real debate has been more and more people wanting to enter it not boycott it. Live and let live !


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    I think they should be let call dish washing or baking brown bread a special talent. Oh and the mascot chooses what the woman wears


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    Could Tralee not invent some other festival to get the tourists in for a week? , Comicon Tralee , Trallee Traveller national convention or something , this rose thing is an embarrasment .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,504 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Its a pathetic show and while people can do what they want, I think less of anybody who enters it and is happy to parade themselves in such a demeaning and anachronistic fashion.

    The reason all the Father Ted "Lovely girls" jokes still get used even today is because they hit so very, very close to home.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I don't understand anyone sitting through two nights of the same questions over and over. I'd be bored after half an hour. It's all very twee and not something that I see as representative of Ireland today but it makes a few bob out of gullible plastic paddies for tralee so you can see why they continue to milk it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    When the roses mention their boyfriends.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Oasis1974 wrote: »
    carrot cruncher porn.

    You have me there.

    I Googled it and got women sticking carrotts somewhere. What has that got to do with the Rose of Tralee? It's of a similar grade of viewing experience?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    This is the first year I haven't watched it I think. Just couldn't cope with it at all. Switched it on for a minute a while ago and Daithi was wearing a bejewelled sleep mask and a peg on his nose while eating a turnip. I don't think there's any way back from that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Maybe once upon a time when people had a choice of 1 or 2 TV channels then you could complain. But today with gazillions of options it is so easy to avoid it.


    Grazillions


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  • Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭bananabread12


    Only the boggers watch it...

    The Dubs live in the 21st century.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I'm a bogger, and I'm not watching it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    It was time to put it out to pasture 15 years ago. People still watch it though, so as long as there's an audience, it'll keep going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    It should be amalgamated with that other great Kerry festival to form the Goat of Tralee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    do any 'rides' ever enter the competition?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Isnt this the female equivalent of the culchie of the year festival


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Its like the Eurovision. Lots of people claim to hate it but secretly love it.

    I tested this myself last year by watching the show both nights. I was cringing throughout and at the end, felt that the announcement of the winner was not worth all that went before. So I genuinely just dislike it.

    That being said, clearly many people do like it so I don't care about it being televised. I can ignore it.
    seamus wrote: »
    One of the previous winners was on the radio on Friday talking about what a big event it is for everyone, how everyone grows up watching the festival and dreaming about being there, the great buzz in the lead up to it. And all I could think about what how she clearly lives in a very different world from I.

    I wanted to be on it under the age of about eleven and indeed we all did watch it as childers and get excited about it. Then we all grew up and realised how awful it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    It makes a profit, it's on TV in mid week in August, not one cent of licence fee money is needed for it - if you don't like it you neither need to be involved nor watch it.

    hence it can stay for as long as it likes for those who wish to watch it.

    Well said bull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Oasis1974 wrote: »
    Surely in 2017 this poor excuse for carrot cruncher porn should be taken off the air. Herding women on to a stage and treating them like spastics just typify us Oirish.


    Yeah shame on us oirish. We should go all classy like the British and find a bunch of skanks with nose jobs and botox and put on a version of celebrity big brother!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    I think peoples problem with the Rose of Tralee is the fact it looks like a quaint & innocent TV escapee from 1970s rural Ireland. The whole format and premise of the show is so 1970s ...

    The RTE 6 O'Clock Angelus is another one that slipped through the time vortex, and no amount of "updating" can disguise its dusty old origins from a bygone era.

    Colleen's at the crossroads sitting on a wall while father Jack passes by on the back of a tractor on the way to Balinnaspittle to see if anything's moving in da field ;-)

    More turf there now Gobnait.


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