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Rose of Tralee - RIP?

The Young Wan

Is it time to put it out to pasture?

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Pac1Man

What about the bums though?

The_Valeyard

Pac1Man wrote: »

What about the bums though?

Ffs. They all have lovely bottoms.

CeilingFly

It makes a profit, it's on TV in mid week in August, not one cent of licence fee money is needed for it - if you don't like it you neither need to be involved nor watch it.

hence it can stay for as long as it likes for those who wish to watch it.

ohnonotgmail

Pac1Man wrote: »

What about the bums though?

Does it impede your life in some way?

Cervantes2

Just change the channel....

Pac1Man

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Does it impede your life in some way?

Depends how big they are.

Annasopra

The Young Wan wrote: »

Is it time to put it out to pasture?

Its like the Eurovision. Lots of people claim to hate it but secretly love it.

branie2

Long may it live!

Yamanoto

CeilingFly wrote: »

not one cent of licence fee money is needed for it

How so?

Oasis1974

Surely in 2017 this poor excuse for carrot cruncher porn should be taken off the air. Herding women on to a stage and treating them like spastics just typify us Oirish.

pjohnson

CeilingFly wrote: »

It makes a profit, it's on TV in mid week in August, not one cent of licence fee money is needed for it - if you don't like it you neither need to be involved nor watch it.

hence it can stay for as long as it likes for those who wish to watch it.

Impossible. People cant work a remote apparently.

seamus

It'll exist as long as people want it to exist. There are microcosms all over the country of things that are huge to one group and meaningless to everyone else - Rose of Tralee, Ploughing Championships, the Galway Races, Dublin Theatre Festival, Cork Jazz Festival.

You will find people for whom each of these things are personally a massive event, one of their main events in the calendar, for them the event was a highlight of their upbringing, as much as Xmas or Paddy's Day. While the rest of us have never and will never attend it because we're not interested.

One of the previous winners was on the radio on Friday talking about what a big event it is for everyone, how everyone grows up watching the festival and dreaming about being there, the great buzz in the lead up to it. And all I could think about what how she clearly lives in a very different world from I.

And that's how it is. The RoT will continue so long as there are people who watch it.

DanMurphy

Never heard of women being 'herded onto a stage' for the Rose.
They are all volunteers and it's a cut-throat competition to proudly represent their country or city.

topper75

Oasis1974 wrote: »

Surely in 2017 this poor excuse for carrot cruncher porn should be taken off the air. Herding women on to a stage and treating them like spastics just typify us Oirish.

There is really no male interest in it though. Porn or otherwise. It is women who make up the audience, all keen to see who is the 'loveliest' of the 'lovely'.

It is silly and were it within my power I would ban it. But then the adult in me remembers that other people are different and enjoy different things and I let it go like the harmless foolishness that it is.

As for it continuing beyond 2017, that is 'all about the Benjamins' as our rapper pals say.

whisky_galore

On one hand; a tv 'spectacular' of declining interest, I don't know if it's the national talking point as it once was, esp with the younger generation.
On the other; it's an excuse for many to come into Tralee and get completely rat-arsed so the pub, restaurant, hotel and b&b owners will be kept happy.

me_irl

Pac1Man wrote: »

Depends how big they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qDgCmzh5ao

Your Face

2016 strikes again

branie2

A while back, there was a debate on transgender women entering the contest.

Steve F

seamus wrote: »

It'll exist as long as people want it to exist. There are microcosms all over the country of things that are huge to one group and meaningless to everyone else - Rose of Tralee, Ploughing Championships, the Galway Races, Dublin Theatre Festival, Cork Jazz Festival.

You will find people for whom each of these things are personally a massive event, one of their main events in the calendar, for them the event was a highlight of their upbringing, as much as Xmas or Paddy's Day. While the rest of us have never and will never attend it because we're not interested.

One of the previous winners was on the radio on Friday talking about what a big event it is for everyone, how everyone grows up watching the festival and dreaming about being there, the great buzz in the lead up to it. And all I could think about what how she clearly lives in a very different world from I.

And that's how it is. The RoT will continue so long as there are people who watch it.

That's the "Golden Cleric" award for me

Irish Guitarist

Letting women from outside Ireland enter still seems like an act of desperation to keep it going. It worked for a while but the old fashioned Irishness of the thing doesn't really seem in line with attracting American women or 'feminists' who want to completely change what it is.

Last week 2016 Sydney Rose Brianna Parkins urged for women from more diverse backgrounds to enter the competition.

She Tweeted: “I need to hand over the tiara and sash soon. Calling all boss ladies to apply for 2017.

“Calling all feminists/mixed race/queer/trans ladies to apply for the Rose wherever you live. I would just like to see the Rose reflect modern Irish society at home and abroad.

“It can be intimidating to
minorities as they might not have been represented in the past.

“I’m a hetero white woman with a degree and even I felt I wasn’t “Rose” enough.

“It makes it a hell of a lot more interesting if you have people with different life stories on stage.”

http://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/whats-on-news/transgender-women-barred-entering-rose-9742040

Arghus

I think it's pretty harmless really.

freshpopcorn

It still is a very successful events. Tralee has being basically packed every night for the packed week and over the next two night it will probably end up having a very high viewership.

Spanish Eyes

It's the parading of the cailíní that gets me. I don't like women being treated like objects and made to show off their ahem, skills live on TV. But I don't watch it, It is not compulsory to enter and be selected, so I'm grand I suppose.

I know one of the Roses was gay, but the day we have men or transgender allowed in will be great fun.

The escorts wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

It is an anachronism in today's society, much like the Late Late Show with skinny malink.

But some sad people watch both. I don't and I polish my halo now and then too ha ha.

seamus

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Letting women from outside Ireland enter still seems like an act of desperation to keep it going. It worked for a while but the old fashioned Irishness of the thing doesn't really seem in line with attracting American women or 'feminists' who want to completely change what it is.

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It became an "International" competition in 1967. So if it was a desperate act to "keep it going", then it seems to have worked.

The point being made in that piece is that the competition is still largely a lovely girls competition featuring white Irish women of the diddly extraction.

Whereas it might be appealing to a much wider audience if you had a black girl from Buncrana performing a traditional Morrocan dance.

Spanish Eyes

seamus wrote: »

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It became an "International" competition in 1967. So if it was a desperate act to "keep it going", then it seems to have worked.

The point being made in that piece is that the competition is still largely a lovely girls competition featuring white Irish women of the diddly extraction.

Whereas it might be appealing to a much wider audience if you had a black girl from Buncrana performing a traditional Morrocan dance.

Or just an ordinary man would probably shake it up too.

Surprised the shocked and indignant feminists haven't picketed it yet.

Irish Guitarist

seamus wrote: »

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It became an "International" competition in 1967. So if it was a desperate act to "keep it going", then it seems to have worked.

The point being made in that piece is that the competition is still largely a lovely girls competition featuring white Irish women of the diddly extraction.

Whereas it might be appealing to a much wider audience if you had a black girl from Buncrana performing a traditional Morrocan dance.

I thought I remembered news reports from about 15 years ago saying that women from abroad were now welcome. I must be mistaken.

Having said that it's still not some progressive event. The woman commenting is taking part in a competition for pretty girls between the ages of 18 and 28 who have never been married. Rather than accepting it for what it is is, which is an an old fashioned beauty competition, she wants to turn it into some right on festival for transgenders.

Pat Mustard

topper75 wrote: »

There is really no male interest in it though.

And shur what about tishimselfbegob: Daw-Hee.

And shur jaysus, aren't they all little crackers, altogether, hah?

pjohnson

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Letting women from outside Ireland enter still seems like an act of desperation to keep it going. It worked for a while but the old fashioned Irishness of the thing doesn't really seem in line with attracting American women or 'feminists' who want to completely change what it is.

http://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/whats-on-news/transgender-women-barred-entering-rose-9742040

95% sure everyone involved regrets giving this one any screentime. Utter pain in the hole.

namloc1980

Maybe once upon a time when people had a choice of 1 or 2 TV channels then you could complain. But today with gazillions of options it is so easy to avoid it.

branie2

Cowboys, Ted! They're a bunch of cowboys!