History Quiz!

pedroeibar1 · 27-07-2017 09:06AM

Manach wrote: »

Would it be the tort case of Byrne v Ireland, where the State was held liable for the first time for actions of its personel?

Not the one I had in mind, although the Supreme Court ruling on Byrne was delivered the same year. (Will leave debate on interpretation of Byrne judgement out of it!)

Clue - the award was £300.

Arsemageddon · 27-07-2017 09:50PM

Moore V Ministry of Defence (1972) - human rights case in Northern Ireland regarding internment and the use of the five techniques

pedroeibar1 · 28-07-2017 12:13AM

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Moore V Ministry of Defence (1972) - human rights case in Northern Ireland regarding internment and the use of the five techniques

Correct. The plaintiff was William Moore; he brought an action against the Chief Constable of the RUC (Schillington) and the British Ministry of Defence for wrongful arrest and assault. At that time as a result of the Special Powers Act about 2% of all Catholic males in NI were arrested and held incommunicado and about a quarter of that number were subjected to brutality.
Judge Rory Connaghan ruled that men were detained in “primitive circumstances” which were “deliberate, unlawful and harsh” following their arrest by security forces in the internment scoop of August 1971. Judgment was delivered in Feb. 1972. The amount claimed/awarded (£300) was the maximum County Court award at that time.
Denis Faul was a family friend and a regular visitor – I still have a couple of copies of the book he co-authored, the one with the red cover by Thomas Ryan RHA.

Manach · 15-08-2017 08:52AM

Which (in)famous Englishman is accounted to be the first of his countryman to gaze upon the Pacific Ocean?

bobbyss · 15-08-2017 06:09PM

Drake...?

Manach · 15-08-2017 06:29PM

Indeed it was Drake.

Your turn.

bobbyss · 15-08-2017 06:49PM

OK But I'm not good at this and couldn't answer 99% of the questions.

What's the connection between Patrick Pearse and Hollywood siren Hedy Lemarr?

feargale · 15-08-2017 09:07PM

bobbyss wrote: »

OK But I'm not good at this and couldn't answer 99% of the questions.

What's the connection between Patrick Pearse and Hollywood siren Hedy Lemarr?

Hedy Lamarr was married to the son of the officer who accepted the surrender from Pearse in 1916

bobbyss · 15-08-2017 09:14PM

feargale wrote: »

Hedy Lamarr was married to the son of the officer who accepted the surrender from Pearse in 1916

Yes indeed. In the picture of Pearse surrendering with E O'Farrell partly obscured beside him, he was surrendering to Lowe (?) and stood beside him was his son. His son then went on to become an actor calling himself John Loder who went on to marry the bould Hedy.

feargale · 15-08-2017 11:48PM

In 1952, a number of post boxes were attacked in Scotland in a dispute, including at least one which was damaged in Edinburgh with a home made explosive device. What was in dispute?

Manach · 17-08-2017 08:05AM

Was this part of nationalist campaign to demand back the coronation stone , the scone?, to Scotland?

Peregrinus · 17-08-2017 08:28AM

Manach is close, but I think strictly speaking it was a protest against the use of the cypher "EIIR" on newy-installed postboxes in Scotland, since the new Queen Elizabeth was only the first monarch in Scotland to have that name. (The first Queen Elizabeth was Queen of England, but not of Scotland.)

While the British government later adopted a convention that monarchs would use the higher of whichever regnal numbering was appropriate to Scotland (so if there is ever another King James, for example, he would be expected to be James VIII, not James III), the Scots actually won this particular skirmish; postboxes and other crown property in Scotland are now simply marked with a crown, rather than with the royal cypher.

Manach · 17-08-2017 08:39AM

I bow before the above poster so Periginus is up next to pose a question.

Peregrinus · 17-08-2017 09:00AM

Name two people who claimed the English throne on the basis of descent from a Queen of France.

pinkypinky · 17-08-2017 10:02AM

Richard & John via Eleanor of Aquitaine?

Peregrinus · 18-08-2017 01:57AM

pinkypinky wrote: »

Richard & John via Eleanor of Aquitaine?

Not who I had in mind. Although their mother was Queen of France, they didn't inherit their claim to the English throne on the basis of their descent from her but rather from their father, Henry II.

If it helps, the two people I am thinking of are descended from two different
queens of France. I realise now that my initial question might have suggested that both were descended from the same queen.

Boulevardier · 18-08-2017 03:47PM

Richard III and Henry VII

Peregrinus · 21-08-2017 02:33AM

Richard III was descended from Edward III on both his father's and his mother's side, but in neither case does the line of descent involve a Queen of France.

Henry VII was also descended from Edward III through John of Gaunt. Again, no Queen of France is involved. His paternal grandmother was Catherine of Valois, but she was a French princess, not Queen of France, and in any event she does not figure in his claims to the throne.

The answers I was looking for are:

- James I of England, who was descended from Henry VII through Mary, Queen of Scots (James' mother, Henry's great-granddaughter) who was Queen of France as the wife of Francis II.

- Lady Jane Grey, who was also descended from Henry VII through Mary Tudor (Jane's grandmother, Henry's daughter) who was Queen of France as the wife of Louis XII.

As no-one has got it, I'll throw it open to any one who wants to post a question.

feargale · 21-08-2017 06:15PM

Which prominent German political figure was a direct descendant of Martin Luther?

BowWow · 21-08-2017 07:25PM

Check out posts 1166 and 1177 in this thread

feargale · 22-08-2017 01:33AM

Oops! Meeow!
Ok. Easy one.
What was the most common first name/Christian name of US presidents?

JillyQ · 22-08-2017 01:38AM

It's James

feargale · 22-08-2017 12:45PM

JillyQ wrote: »

It's James

Correct. If USA had elected kings instead of presidents Jimmy Carter would have been King James VI. ( King Jimmy I would have been unseemly. )

JillyQ · 22-08-2017 03:47PM

Here is another easy one name the Irish statesman that who was assassinated on this date

knucklehead6 · 22-08-2017 04:09PM

JillyQ wrote: »

Here is another easy one name the Irish statesman that who was assassinated on this date

Mr Collins.

feargale · 31-08-2017 07:01PM

Which US President had a direct ancestor who was convicted of murder and executed?

Manach · 01-09-2017 11:49PM

At a guess and based from what I remember in a biography of him having some rather troubled family history: Lincoln?

feargale · 02-09-2017 12:36AM

Manach wrote: »

At a guess and based from what I remember in a biography of him having some rather troubled family history: Lincoln?

No. At least, not that I know of.

patsman07 · 06-09-2017 10:58PM

feargale wrote: »

Which US President had a direct ancestor who was convicted of murder and executed?

McKinley?

feargale · 07-09-2017 12:53PM

patsman07 wrote: »

McKinley?

I'm sorry. I have to withdraw this question. I came across something about two weeks ago suggesting that a POTUS had an antecedent who committed murder but I can't follow it up. Thomas Cornell, a 17th century settler, was ancestor of Cleveland, Carter and Nixon. His son Thomas Cornell Jr. was, on the most spurious evidence, convicted of murdering his mother and executed. But Thomas Sr. had a number of sons and I can't establish if Jr. was ancestor of any of the presidents. Jr. did have descendants. Cornell Sr. was also a direct ancestor of Ezra Cornell, founder of Cornell University.
I thought I came across something similar re a Garfield ancestor, but I may be mistaken.
Sorry for the inconvenience. The subject might tempt one of you to research further.

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