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So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,557 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Inviere wrote: »
    3 of the 6 :o

    Personally I think Sonic 2 is another class act, perhaps just shaded though by the first. If I recall, Sonic 2 is a tad too long

    That's as bad as me and my Super Mario World exit fiasco :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Shapey Fiend


    I think Sonic 2 would be better with a few minor edits but it's almost right.

    I thought the level design in CD, 3 and S&K got a bit too sprawling and all the repetitive looking screens and lack of distinctive scenery within a level make it hard to know where you are. Shield gimmick added so little as well it rarely matters.

    That's something that most games have gotten better at recently. I'm playing a new retro FPS called Dusk ATM and it's got the whole red, blue, yellow keycards type of setup but they do a good job of making every part of the map memorable so you don't get confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭Inviere


    o1s1n wrote: »
    That's as bad as me and my Super Mario World exit fiasco :D

    Ah I've done the full 6 emeralds in the past, when I was a nipper & used to game all day. I'm happy enough to take the scenic route these days though :D
    I thought the level design in CD, 3 and S&K got a bit too sprawling and all the repetitive looking screens and lack of distinctive scenery within a level make it hard to know where you are.

    Definitely agree with that. Once I clear Sonic 2, I plan on tackling 3...a game I've never finished. I found they broke away from the perfectly sized and balanced three act levels, and tried to fit too much into two acts. Half the time I feel lost in those levels & just want to push on until the end. With the first two games, I enjoyed exploring as you always had a good idea of where you were in the map.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,413 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Anyone that thinks Sonic 1 is better than sonic 2 is utterly bonkers. It's a far better game in my opinion.

    I really like 3 and knuckles as well. Think the level design is great in them. 3 is a little too short. That's the only criticism I have of it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,797 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Oddly, the first thing that struck me about Sonic 3 was the quality of the music, they really did a remarkable job with samples and beats that were quite contemporary.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,324 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Time to share my secret shame, I never liked Sonic, just too quick and repetitive.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Anyone that thinks Sonic 1 is better than sonic 2 is utterly bonkers. It's a far better game in my opinion.

    Am doing a few "tune up" runs in Sonic 2 at the mo, it's an incredible game. Beautiful to look at, sounds amazing, plays amazing, and is polished to a mirror finish. Would I say it's better than 1? After playing it most of yesterday, I'd say it's a better game than 1. It's very similar to 1, only there's more to it. I would say it's a little easier than 1 (up to a point anyway), but on the whole, looking back at it now, it was one of the best games ever made. I do put 1 on a pedestal though, it's brimming with heart, charm, and excellent at every turn.

    I got up to Metropolis Zone yesterday in my first run, and while it's that bit easier than 1, it's every bit as enjoyable. I do however prefer the bonus levels in 1, and I also prefer how those levels come at the END of an Act, rather than in the middle of one as they do in 2. In 2, I feel those bonus levels take you outta the game, whereas in 1, you were finished the stage so they felt more like a small interlude. Other than that, it's a masterpiece of pick up and play brilliance.
    I really like 3 and knuckles as well. Think the level design is great in them. 3 is a little too short. That's the only criticism I have of it.

    From memory, 3 was meant to be a LOT bigger, but time constraints meant it was thrown out. By all accounts, Knuckles & 3 together is the real 3.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,797 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Time to share my secret shame, I never liked Sonic, just too quick and repetitive.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Time to share my secret shame, I never liked Sonic, just too quick and repetitive.

    I always feel people only played through Green Hills Zone when they say this, the mid and later zones are anything but quick, and it's a short game, so any repetition doesn't outstay its welcome imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Bloody annoying bug in the final boss of 2, when you jump to hit him, you not only hit him, but go through him too & die :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,324 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Inviere wrote: »
    I always feel people only played through Green Hills Zone when they say this, the mid and later zones are anything but quick, and it's a short game, so any repetition doesn't outstay its welcome imo.

    It's one of the few games my wife played/plays, so I have seen much more of the series than I've played. I only bothered with half the first game.
    Talking the series generally, I don't like the over fussy backgrounds and I could do without a lot of the music too if that helps.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,413 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Sega had a deal with McDonalds which meant Sonic 3 had to be cut down and released as what we got as Sonic 3. Sonic 3 and Knuckles was the Sonic 3 we should have got.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭Inviere


    I don't like the over fussy backgrounds and I could do without a lot of the music too if that helps.

    Really? I honestly love the artwork and soundtrack!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,324 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Inviere wrote: »
    Really? I honestly love the artwork and soundtrack!

    Yep, really. Like a hyperactive child designed both. But each to their own, different strokes for different folks etcetera.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Cleared Sonic 2 there (Chaos Emeralds notwithstanding :o). Another masterpiece really, visuals, level design, soundtrack, controls, all perfect really. It's a tad too long, with Metropolis Zone have three acts of torture, instead of the usual two...plus I feel Sky Chase Zone is a bit odd, and not a great zone...though a welcome break from Metropolis if I'm honest. That's the first two cleared, and for me, the series ever so slightly begins to go downhill from here. I've never played much of 3, so am half looking forward to it. It's as near as makes no difference to a brand new game for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Shapey Fiend


    You mean you play Metropolis Zone without using teh zips like some sort of scrub?

    Summoning Salt has done a Sonic 2 video today.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    Picked up Metal Slug Anthology on the Wii. No classic controller support (on the Western releases, a least) and playing it on the Wii U, so no Gamecube pad option. These are turning into bigger obstacles than I imagined previously. Went with the NES-like options on the Wiimote and still cannot adjust to shaking the ****ing thing to throw bombs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,557 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I've never played that version, you've to shake the controller to throw grenades?

    Haha! Good luck to you 1ccing the game like that. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    Not even the half of it. End up shaking it too much and burn through half your bombs. Also that d-pad is for ants, like Ninty went "how can we improve on the Gamecube's d-pad without actually fixing the thing?"


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,797 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    It's a terrible conversion, the controls are bonkers.
    It was as if everyone was deliberately trying to eschew what went before and be edgy, like shaking the decking controller.
    Jaysus.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    Odd that it still rates slightly better than the PS2 version. Believe there's serious slowdown issues on that one. Has anyone played the PS4 re-release of the anthology? Any better?


  • Posts: 27,583 ✭✭✭✭ Keenan Plain Reforestation


    Mr.Saturn wrote: »
    Odd that it still rates slightly better than the PS2 version. Believe there's serious slowdown issues on that one. Has anyone played the PS4 re-release of the anthology? Any better?

    PS2 version is king


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Burzum


    Am making my way through Starfox Adventures on the Cube.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,797 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Burzum wrote: »
    Am making my way through Starfox Adventures on the Cube.

    Now there's a game that has aged well.
    Both that and Super mario Sunshine still look great, playing that one on my Gamecube last night and it's still looks amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,557 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Was Starfox Adventures actually any good?

    I never played it but always stayed away as I remember hearing it was pants?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,797 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Was Starfox Adventures actually any good?

    I never played it but always stayed away as I remember hearing it was pants?

    I think it got a beating at the time because it wasn't the Starfox game they wanted and the Super Mario Bros 2 kinda gestation of the title, when it morphed from a different game into a Starfox title.
    It isn't bad, as an action Zelda type game with some really nice visuals, rendering fur for the first time effectively in a game.
    I think it is better in hindsight, fitting more into the Jet Force Gemini action mode tbh, and not too expensive to locate either.
    I wouldn't be the best person to give an accurate opinion, I was torn between many consoles at that time, PS2, Xbox and GC, and it didn't get the time invested into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,557 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    So apparently it started it's life as Dinosaur Planet and was to be an n64 game - I did not know that at all.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,413 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    I think it got a beating at the time because it wasn't the Starfox game they wanted and the Super Mario Bros 2 kinda gestation of the title, when it morphed from a different game into a Starfox title.
    It isn't bad, as an action Zelda type game with some really nice visuals, rendering fur for the first time effectively in a game.
    I think it is better in hindsight, fitting more into the Jet Force Gemini action mode tbh, and not too expensive to locate either.
    I wouldn't be the best person to give an accurate opinion, I was torn between many consoles at that time, PS2, Xbox and GC, and it didn't get the time invested into it.

    It's actually not better in hindsight. It's a competent Zelda clone but also a very boring one that really grows old quick. Time hasn't been kind to it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,797 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    It's actually not better in hindsight. It's a competent Zelda clone but also a very boring one that really grows old quick. Time hasn't been kind to it.

    Sounds like what happened to me!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Shapey Fiend


    My dad threw out all my Japanese Dreamcast stuff a few years back. I thought he was putting them in the attic found them sitting in the rain. :(


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