Wildcard thread 2017/18

km79 · 13-08-2017 2:13pm #1

I'm just setting this up for a friend..........

km79 · 13-08-2017 2:53pm

I'm just going to have a little tinker now
See what it looks like

Tylerdurex · 19-08-2017 11:44pm

Have had a great start with 92 points last week and 46 so far this week with Alonso Danillo Alli Debryune and Mounie all yet to play . I've had pog mik and lu since gw1 , its prob mad but I've went ahead and played the WC anyway , opinions

Foster

Hegazi
Bertrend
Trippier

Pogba
Mane
Mkhitaryan
Eriksen
Loftus cheek

Kane
Lukaku

skippy15 · 19-08-2017 11:59pm

Tylerdurex wrote: »

Have had a great start with 92 points last week and 46 so far this week with Alonso Danillo Alli Debryune and Mounie all yet to play . I've had pog mik and lu since gw1 , its prob mad but I've went ahead and played the WC anyway , opinions

why? makes no sense wildcard is for when you need changes or struggling to field a squad

ElTel · 20-08-2017 12:10am

Tylerdurex wrote: »

Have had a great start with 92 points last week and 46 so far this week with Alonso Danillo Alli Debryune and Mounie all yet to play . I've had pog mik and lu since gw1 , its prob mad but I've went ahead and played the WC anyway , opinions

Foster

Hegazi
Bertrend
Trippier

Pogba
Mane
Mkhitaryan
Eriksen
Loftus cheek

Kane
Lukaku

Save .5M with another saint...Yoshi
You may not want him in the end but Chich (say) may get a double rise. GL
Even if they're fodder I want a look at the 15

iroced · 20-08-2017 12:13am

km79 wrote: »

I'm just setting this up for a friend..........

Think you're late. Kev's already on his 3rd WC of the season

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PARlance · 20-08-2017 12:15am

Tylerdurex wrote: »

Have had a great start with 92 points last week and 46 so far this week with Alonso Danillo Alli Debryune and Mounie all yet to play . I've had pog mik and lu since gw1 , its prob mad but I've went ahead and played the WC anyway , opinions

Foster

Hegazi
Bertrend
Trippier

Pogba
Mane
Mkhitaryan
Eriksen
Loftus cheek

Kane
Lukaku

It is very mad. What's your bench?

Chesty08 · 20-08-2017 12:16am

Think I'm going to WC

Currently

Hennessy Speroni

Danilo Bertrand TAA Kolasinac Long

KDB Salah Mooy RLC Carroll

Kane Aguero Firmino.

Want to change my defence completely.. get Utd, WBA coverage in

Midfield.. Both big hitters out for Utd coverage.

Completely re shaping my structure.

Chesty08 · 20-08-2017 12:21am

Chesty08 wrote: »

Think I'm going to WC

Currently

Hennessy Speroni

Danilo Bertrand TAA Kolasinac Long

KDB Salah Mooy RLC Carroll

Kane Aguero Firmino.

Want to change my defence completely.. get Utd, WBA coverage in

Midfield.. Both big hitters out for Utd coverage.

Completely re shaping my structure.

Most likely go

Speroni to Elliott
TAA to Wimmer
Danilo to Bailly
KDB to Pogba
Salah to Mane
Aguero out tio

ElTel · 20-08-2017 12:26am

Chesty08 wrote: »

Think I'm going to WC

Currently

Hennessy Speroni

Danilo Bertrand TAA Kolasinac Long

KDB Salah Mooy RLC Carroll

Kane Aguero Firmino.

Want to change my defence completely.. get Utd, WBA coverage in

Midfield.. Both big hitters out for Utd coverage.

Completely re shaping my structure.

That squad can wait a week if it's a re-shape. IB, transfer winda over...

Chesty08 · 20-08-2017 12:44am

ElTel wrote: »

That squad can wait a week if it's a re-shape. IB, transfer winda over...

Still under the 100 point mark & OR 2mil

No Utd coverage biggest fault along with the defence

What benefits of waiting a week with no Utd coverage

shineon23 · 20-08-2017 12:59am

Tylerdurex wrote:

Have had a great start with 92 points last week and 46 so far this week with Alonso Danillo Alli Debryune and Mounie all yet to play . I've had pog mik and lu since gw1 , its prob mad but I've went ahead and played the WC anyway , opinions

Ha the fabled early wildcard from a position of strength rather than desperation.

I'd like to have that option some season.

ElTel · 20-08-2017 1:01am

Chesty08 wrote: »

Still under the 100 point mark & OR 2mil

No Utd coverage biggest fault along with the defence

What benefits of waiting a week with no Utd coverage

I'm a hoarder but I'd never put anyone off an early WC.
Nearly 200k WC'ed last week.

Price-wise it was slow last week-perhaps WC this week has a better chance of the double risers. Which 3 will be in?

KevIRL · 20-08-2017 7:43am

iroced wrote: »

Think you're late. Kev's already on his 3rd WC of the season .

I'm all about the free hit this year.

FHFC · 20-08-2017 8:17am

ElTel wrote: »

I'm a hoarder but I'd never put anyone off an early WC.
Nearly 200k WC'ed last week.

Price-wise it was slow last week-perhaps WC this week has a better chance of the double risers. Which 3 will be in?

Are we still talking about the myth of the double riser to make money on Wildcard?

So rare that it shouldn't be a factor in considering Wildcard. And rises seem very slow this year.

Benimar · 20-08-2017 8:28am

FHFC wrote: »

Are we still talking about the myth of the double riser to make money on Wildcard?

So rare that it shouldn't be a factor in considering Wildcard. And rises seem very slow this year.

Agree with your point, but I do think there can be merit in Wildcarding to avoid major loss in value. That was one of my motivations in using the WC after GW3 last season, I was about to lose 0.5 or 0.6 on team value.

It seems in recent times the drops outweigh the risers in early weeks ..considerably.

FHFC · 20-08-2017 9:33am

Benimar wrote: »

Agree with your point, but I do think there can be merit in Wildcarding to avoid major loss in value. That was one of my motivations in using the WC after GW3 last season, I was about to lose 0.5 or 0.6 on team value.

It seems in recent times the drops outweigh the risers in early weeks ..considerably.

Your point is my point.

That is the main value consideration in wildcarding. That and getting players you want long term in before they rise significantly.

I wasn't saying Wildcard had no impact on value, just that the 'chasing 0.2 rises' thing hasn't been a thing since 2013/14, but people still go on about it.

Tylerdurex · 20-08-2017 10:47am

The main reason I did it is to get Kane in , I think Kane is going to explode soon . My subs are Elliott long quaner and rangel

Tylerdurex · 20-08-2017 10:52am

ElTel wrote: »

Save .5M with another saint...Yoshi
You may not want him in the end but Chich (say) may get a double rise. GL
Even if they're fodder I want a look at the 15

Is yoshi a permanent fixture , I brought in chico for now . How do I check potential potential price rises

FHFC · 20-08-2017 8:22pm

Tylerdurex wrote: »

Is yoshi a permanent fixture , I brought in chico for now . How do I check potential potential price rises

Saints meant to be signing a CB which puts Yoshi or Stephens at risk. Saints fans seem to think Yoshi will be dropped.

dahat · 20-08-2017 8:35pm

Why am I here....this won't end well....

Tauriel · 20-08-2017 8:36pm

I've WC and can't decide between Mooy and Jese.

manual_man · 20-08-2017 9:29pm

On WC at the moment (wild card, not toilet) and looking at something like this

Hart(Elliott)
Jones Bavies Schindler (Dunk Mbemba)
Pogba Mkyryan Eriksen KDB (RLC)
Chicharito Firmino Kane

Kane will be backed as captain to end the August hoodoo against Burnley

ScummyMan · 20-08-2017 11:56pm

manual_man wrote: »

On WC at the moment (wild card, not toilet) and looking at something like this

Hart(Elliott)
Jones Bavies Schindler (Dunk Mbemba)
Pogba Mkyryan Eriksen KDB (RLC)
Chicharito Firmino Kane

Kane will be backed as captain to end the August hoodoo against Burnley

Decent looking team. It's brave to WC without Lukaku though.

Also not sure I'd be wildcarding in Jones, he's looked good but you'd have to think Lindelof will start getting minutes, Jones is due to break also.

manual_man · 21-08-2017 12:09am

ScummyMan wrote: »

Decent looking team. It's brave to WC without Lukaku though.

Also not sure I'd be wildcarding in Jones, he's looked good but you'd have to think Lindelof will start getting minutes, Jones is due to break also.

Just want Utd defence really and Jones is the cheap option in. Thankfully there's plenty of decent 5m or less def options if he doesn't work out. I figure i can manage without Lukaku. Kane has more captainable fixtures coming up. And having Pog/Mky covers me if United continue to score well

shineon23 · 21-08-2017 3:35am

FHFC wrote: »

Saints meant to be signing a CB which puts Yoshi or Stephens at risk. Saints fans seem to think Yoshi will be dropped.

I think both Stephens and Yoshida will be at risk to Hoedt.

Even more so in September if the club sits tight over VVD and he recovers from 'injury'

shineon23 · 21-08-2017 3:39am

Will be wildcarding myself next Saturday night I think.

Want to do it this week after a terrible showing so far this weekend but got badly burned with injuries over an international break before and won't take that risk again.

Agree with above, no real advantage for managers looking to bank team value.
In recent years there's been very few double risers over the break and a lull in transfers overall.

21-08-2017 4:07am

shineon23 wrote: »

Will be wildcarding myself next Saturday night I think.

Want to do it this week after a terrible showing so far this weekend but got badly burned with injuries over an international break before and won't take that risk again.

Agree with above, no real advantage for managers looking to bank team value.
In recent years there's been very few double risers over the break and a lull in transfers overall.

I'd originally planned for WC in about GW 9 when window is closed, the first 11's look nailed and the internationals are over but a shocking start has me worried.

shineon23 · 21-08-2017 7:07am

Deleted User wrote:

I'd originally planned for WC in about GW 9 when window is closed, the first 11's look nailed and the internationals are over but a shocking start has me worried.

Just seen highlights of Chelsea Spurs there.
As much as I don't like to take 'bad luck' into account. On another day I could have got a goal and assist from Willian, at least a goal from Kane and Bavies had a decent effort saved.

I'm didn't help my sanity yesterday that a rival has Alonso first sub coming in for him.

No doubt that I need to wildcard to soft myself out but I'll hold for the week.

If Chelsea dont sign a left back/lwb before the window shuts I dont think I'll be able to ignore Alonso with my wildcard. Rival ownership and yesterday's returns convinced me that he's still a great FPL option like last season and I have to stop making decisions based on real life matches

21-08-2017 8:07am

I was sure Chelsea would have signed a replacement by now.

PVA · 21-08-2017 10:15am

While looking at options to get Kane in for GW3 based on underlying stats, the question arises as to when is an early wildcard justified, and when is it knee-jerk? Also, with the introduction of the new 'One Week Wildcard' (Free Hit), does this devalue the benefit of holding on to the wildcard in any way?

Personally, I would change 10+ players now on a wildcard, as we can already make some assumptions which could easily hold true for the coming weeks and months;
- Alonso is a must have
- United DF coverage is needed
- United MF coverage is needed
- Mane is the choice of Liverpool mids, referred to as a 'striker' by Klopp
- Mooy is the pick of the £5.5m mids
- Elliott and Mbemba are the £4m DF/GK enablers (this could change, but safest options for now to maintain value)
- Kane's underlying stats indicate upcoming returns
- Lukaku's underlying stats indicate his run may not continue
- Chicharito has shown good form as 3rd striker enabler
- Vardy potentially out for a month, joining Zaha
- Trippier is back from injury - he was in most GW1 teams before his injury

Bearing in mind that City are still to come this evening, the below would be along the lines of a template wildcard team for GW3 (new players for my team in red)

De Gea (Elliott)
Alonso Trippier Hegazi (Lowe Mbemba)
Eriksen Mane Mkyryan Mooy (RLC)
Chicharito Firmino Kane

Question is - other than the upcoming international break and insurance against a week of multiple injuries/red cards, what is the main benefit to holding on to the first wildcard past August/September?

21-08-2017 10:42am

The benefit of holding as I see it is Sanchez, Hazard and the end of the transfer window.

But most of them can be fitted it with a -4 or -8 if needs be, so wildcard early and wildcard often I say.

Father Hernandez · 21-08-2017 11:00am

PVA wrote: »

While looking at options to get Kane in for GW3 based on underlying stats, the question arises as to when is an early wildcard justified, and when is it knee-jerk? Also, with the introduction of the new 'One Week Wildcard' (Free Hit), does this devalue the benefit of holding on to the wildcard in any way?

Personally, I would change 10+ players now on a wildcard, as we can already make some assumptions which could easily hold true for the coming weeks and months;
- Alonso is a must have
- United DF coverage is needed
- United MF coverage is needed
- Mane is the choice of Liverpool mids, referred to as a 'striker' by Klopp
- Mooy is the pick of the £5.5m mids
- Elliott and Mbemba are the £4m DF/GK enablers (this could change, but safest options for now to maintain value)
- Kane's underlying stats indicate upcoming returns
- Lukaku's underlying stats indicate his run may not continue
- Chicharito has shown good form as 3rd striker enabler
- Vardy potentially out for a month, joining Zaha
- Trippier is back from injury - he was in most GW1 teams before his injury

Bearing in mind that City are still to come this evening, the below would be along the lines of a template wildcard team for GW3 (new players for my team in red)

De Gea (Elliott)
Alonso Trippier Hegazi (Lowe Mbemba)
Eriksen Mane Mkyryan Mooy (RLC)
Chicharito Firmino Kane

Question is - other than the upcoming international break and insurance against a week of multiple injuries/red cards, what is the main benefit to holding on to the first wildcard past August/September?

Brilliant analysis PVA, I think an early WC post GW3 will be happening to myself, my team isn't in ribbons but certainly could do with a little makeover I don't want to do a -12 for or similar.

All in all, we don't know who'll perform well pre season, all speculation so now we've seen 2 GW's we've a better indication of who to pick, who's in form etc so IMO it's best to WC then, get your team set up for mid Sep onwards after a small evaluation of form and then fixtures upcoming for players you want

Chesty08 · 21-08-2017 10:03pm

WC Activated

Hennessy Elliott

Alonso Jones Britos Hegazi Memba

Mikki Ramsey Mane Mooy RLC

Kane Lukaku Chicarito

£0.8m ITB

Brought in Mooy last week and brought in Richarilson to my draft. Might go with Richarilsom as looks very promising

manual_man · 21-08-2017 10:56pm

considering this now:

De Gea Elliott
Alonso Trippier Berty Hegazi Mbemba
Alli Eriksen Mané Mkyryan RLC
Rooney Firmino Chicharito

Risky as in no - quote unquote - "big hitters" up front. Though i wouldn't say my frontline is weak all the same. Gives me a very nice looking first XI. Means my captain choices would often be a little left of centre:

GW3: Eriksen/Alli
GW4: Chicharito
GW5: Eriksen/Alli/Mané
GW6: Rooney
GW7: Rooney/Chicharito

etc.

Tempted

Shanotheslayer · 21-08-2017 10:57pm

No Lukaku or Kane, you're in for a bad time my friend.

21-08-2017 11:07pm

manual_man wrote: »

considering this now:

De Gea Elliott
Alonso Trippier Berty Hegazi Mbemba
Alli Eriksen Mané Mkyryan RLC
Rooney Firmino Chicharito

Risky as in no - quote unquote - "big hitters" up front. Though i wouldn't say my frontline is weak all the same. Gives me a very nice looking first XI. Means my captain choices would often be a little left of centre:

GW3: Eriksen/Alli
GW4: Chicharito
GW5: Eriksen/Alli/Mané
GW6: Rooney
GW7: Rooney/Chicharito

etc.

Tempted

Really liked that team until I got to the strikers but I'm a sucker for a heavy hitting front 3 and it's not going so good for me right now.

I'd drop Berty and get in a 4.5 to rotate with Hegazi as you'll play Alonso and Trippier every week. Trippier is also a current injury concern.

I do actually like your front line bar Rooney. Would you consider Vardy ? I think that midfield is pretty impressive so if at least 2 of your strikers fire then you might not miss the big 2.

Chesty08 · 21-08-2017 11:07pm

manual_man wrote: »

considering this now:

De Gea Elliott
Alonso Trippier Berty Hegazi Mbemba
Alli Eriksen Mané Mkyryan RLC
Rooney Firmino Chicharito

Risky as in no - quote unquote - "big hitters" up front. Though i wouldn't say my frontline is weak all the same. Gives me a very nice looking first XI. Means my captain choices would often be a little left of centre:

GW3: Eriksen/Alli
GW4: Chicharito
GW5: Eriksen/Alli/Mané
GW6: Rooney
GW7: Rooney/Chicharito

etc.

Tempted

No Lukaku or Kane is criminal.. ok if started the season on that gamble.. not if WC

If they fire you'll be in serious bother to fit them in

PVA · 21-08-2017 11:07pm

Wildcard Activated, looking forward to tinkering this week

Rooney has more chance of shagging my granny than getting in my team

km79 · 21-08-2017 11:15pm

manual_man wrote: »

considering this now:

De Gea Elliott
Alonso Trippier Berty Hegazi Mbemba
Alli Eriksen Mané Mkyryan RLC
Rooney Firmino Chicharito

Risky as in no - quote unquote - "big hitters" up front. Though i wouldn't say my frontline is weak all the same. Gives me a very nice looking first XI. Means my captain choices would often be a little left of centre:

GW3: Eriksen/Alli
GW4: Chicharito
GW5: Eriksen/Alli/Mané
GW6: Rooney
GW7: Rooney/Chicharito

etc.

Tempted

Don't do it
With those captaincy options allied with not even owning the likes of Kane and lukaku your season could be over by gw7

manual_man · 21-08-2017 11:15pm

Chesty08 wrote: »

No Lukaku or Kane is criminal.. ok if started the season on that gamble.. not if WC

If they fire you'll be in serious bother to fit them in

Hey, there's not only one way to play this game. Risk involved for sure, but it's certainly not beyond the realms of possibility my gamble could work out. I'd fancy my front 3 to give a very good price to points value. Money saved strengthens elsewhere. Captain choices is certainly the concern but looking at the captain choices i'd have going forward they're certainly not bad overall.

manual_man · 21-08-2017 11:20pm

km79 wrote: »

Don't do it
With those captaincy options allied with not even owning the likes of Kane and lukaku your season could be over by gw7

But don't you have to play the game your own way? TBH i haven't enjoyed the game as much recently - making some decisions based on fear instead of just trusting my gut and going for it. May change my mind yet but i think there's a good chance this will be my squad come Saturday.

22-08-2017 2:30am

manual_man wrote: »

But don't you have to play the game your own way? TBH i haven't enjoyed the game as much recently - making some decisions based on fear instead of just trusting my gut and going for it. May change my mind yet but i think there's a good chance this will be my squad come Saturday.

I really agree with your sentiment. There's probably a lot of people buying blindly due to fear of not going with highly owned players, price rises and falls, following advice blindly and so on.

At least your way you can take responsibility for the outcome try and enjoy it either way.

I can imagine there are a lot of managers (probably about 2.4 million) above me at the minute but are they doing their own thing or just following the masses ? I could not enjoy this game if I just did what I was advised to do or just doing what everyone else is doing.

I do appreciate there is a balance and owning Lukaku might be the safest thing to do but if you can score well without him then why not try.

Who's to say that Chicarito, Vardy and Firmino won't score enough to allow you to go without Lukaku.

manual_man · 22-08-2017 2:39am

Deleted User wrote: »

I really agree with your sentiment. There's probably a lot of people buying blindly due to fear of not going with highly owned players, price rises and falls, following advice blindly and so on.

At least your way you can take responsibility for the outcome try and enjoy it either way.

I can imagine there are a lot of managers (probably about 2.4 million) above me at the minute but are they doing their own thing or just following the masses ? I could not enjoy this game if I just did what I was advised to do or just doing what everyone else is doing.

I do appreciate there is a balance and owning Lukaku might be the safest thing to do but if you can score well without him then why not try.

Who's to say that Chicarito, Vardy and Firmino won't score enough to allow you to go without Lukaku.

I've always believed there's no right way to play this game. So many variables.

As to my proposed squad, i've figured that i can do Kane and a 4.5m mid instead of Rooney + Alli, for now, if i want. Captain Kane for gw3 and gw5 then, as well as playing RLC those gameweeks too. It's definitely an option. Idea would be to get Rooney gw6 anyway. We'll see. Kane looks like dropping so will wait til Sat morning to put him in my WC squad if i decide so

The real mccoy 91 · 22-08-2017 7:46am

Foster
Taa Danilo cresswell Stephens
Ramsey mane de bruyne
Kane gabbi Jesus
Iwobi Walter smith Elliot.

Definitely considering the wildcard now any opinions ?

The real mccoy 91 · 22-08-2017 7:48am

Chesty08 wrote: »

WC Activated

Hennessy Elliott

Alonso Jones Britos Hegazi Memba

Mikki Ramsey Mane Mooy RLC

Kane Lukaku Chicarito

£0.8m ITB

Brought in Mooy last week and brought in Richarilson to my draft. Might go with Richarilsom as looks very promising

I would not be having Hennessy in a wc team

patmac · 22-08-2017 7:52am

PVA wrote: »

Wildcard Activated, looking forward to tinkering this week

Rooney has more chance of shagging my granny than getting in my team

So 50/50 then?

F1ngers · 22-08-2017 9:07am

PVA wrote: »

Rooney has more chance of shagging my granny than getting in my team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMRrNY0pxfM

extra gravy · 22-08-2017 10:11am

Thinking of pulling the trigger

Foster Elliot
Valencia Lowe Maguire Mee Yoshida
Mane Pogba Ramsey Mooy Carroll
Kane Lukaku Chicharito

Will be priced out of this squad after tonight so am tempted.

22-08-2017 10:25am

extra gravy wrote: »

Thinking of pulling the trigger

Foster Elliot
Valencia Lowe Maguire Mee Yoshida
Mane Pogba Ramsey Mooy Carroll
Kane Lukaku Chicharito

Will be priced out of this squad after tonight so am tempted.

Looks good. Think I'd go for Bailly over Valencia leaving me with .5 to play with. That would allow you the likes of Trippier over Maguire if that appealed.

DarraghF197 · 22-08-2017 10:35am

manual_man wrote: »

considering this now:

De Gea Elliott
Alonso Trippier Berty Hegazi Mbemba
Alli Eriksen Mané Mkyryan RLC
Rooney Firmino Chicharito

Risky as in no - quote unquote - "big hitters" up front. Though i wouldn't say my frontline is weak all the same. Gives me a very nice looking first XI. Means my captain choices would often be a little left of centre:

GW3: Eriksen/Alli
GW4: Chicharito
GW5: Eriksen/Alli/Mané
GW6: Rooney
GW7: Rooney/Chicharito

etc.

Tempted

It's a nicely laid out team, but I'd have to agree with others that the lack of capital in the frontline could become a major problem.

The change I would make would be Alli to Mooy and Firmino to Kane (Don't have access to the site, but I think the maths is OK for this!). If Kane drops this week, with Mooy already gone up, it should be just about manageable.

I'd expect Kane to score a lot more points than Alli. Also, the fact that you already have Mane in midfield means that you're very reliant on Liverpool's attacking force over what is a tough set of fixtures. It also will get you on the Mooy price rise train if he continues to perform well.

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