ISIS Terrorist Attack in Barcelona

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

That would never work. If you prosecute a entire group of people who follow a religion, you see more people joining the extremist cause.

And?

We are inching closer to total war. They'll have to pick sides anyway.

Richard Hillman wrote: »

And?

We are inching closer to total war. They'll have to pick sides anyway.

Absolute bollocks. Fear mongering of the highest order.

FraR wrote: »

It means that we don't make the problem even worse and import any more headbangers.

But you would make them out of the current population? So, what difference would it make really?

Lux23 wrote: »

OK, but that didn't answer my question. If there are already Muslims in Europe how does stemming immigration solve the problem? What about the millions already here?

Just a notion but maybe applying the law as it stands or even with a bit more scrutiny? Clamping down on hate speech, foreign funding of Mosques, expressions of sympathy for violent Jihadis.

More than that, maybe, and just maybe, with the link between the Muslim communities of Europe and those of the rest of the world (forged by a constant movement of people) broken, those communities could start becoming more like their neighbours and less like their ancestors.

Closing the borders seems a sensible and very necessary step. It may or may not stop or lessen some of the current ongoing terrorist acts against Europe but what it most certainly will do is lessen the danger years down the line. This is when our children and our childrens' children will potentially have to deal with the ridiculous unwanted and failed multiculture social experiment that idiot politicians and the eu in particular) have been forcing down out throats for years now.

I still don't believe it's too late but we need to stop turning the other cheek. Every time we do we end up getting stabbed on the other side. When will our leaders learn that we are getting royally ****ed by trying to be pc. These terrorists hate our very existence. They laugh and exploit our stupidness and weakness.

For the sake of our future generations we need to man up. Pull the drawbridge up and start cracking down with extreme severity on those that are already within the castle gates. It couldn't be any worse that what we are doing now which seems to be the square root of feck all squared.

Gravelly wrote: »

So we should open the borders to more muslims in case we make the ones already here angry enough to kill more of us?

So we should close the borders to Muslims and make the Muslims already here angry enough to kill us?

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Wait, you think there are zero Muslims in Poland and Hungary?

Poland has about 20,000 muslims, and Hungary has about 25,000 as of 2016.
Ireland has about 43,000, slightly more than the 42,000 in Finland.
Surprisingly, Bulgaria has over 1 million muslims, about 13.4% of population.

Source

Gravelly wrote: »

I don't think you support terrorism (well I don't know, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt). My comment is based on the fact that you seem to be considerably more concerned that a potential terrorist may have their feelings hurt that you are about actual people getting killed. You have spent pages and pages of this thread trying to obfuscate, deflect, and derail any discussion on how to prevent further attacks, and what the real cause of the attacks is. You dress it up in a concern for human rights, but it is a poor enough disguise. You post above is another example of it - you know a thousand ways we can't do things because we might upset a terrorist or two, but you show no empathy or concern for those already killed and the many that will be killed over the next few months and years.

Complete drivel. Of course I have sympathy for the victims.

I have not advocating any concern for terrorists, and I'd like you to quote a post where I clearly do.

Also I have not posted pages and pages.

I don't like the populist, "arrest all muslims", "stop all immigration", "string em up" mob mentality that is promoted by many posters on this thread and I have argued against it.

Somebody earlier wanted all 1st and 2nd generation muslim immigrants interned earlier. Just think how ridiculous and impractical that is.

That is not supporting or protecting terrorists in any way.

Another way needs to be found. I don't know what the answers are. Perhaps trying to understand why they do these things and prevent them from being turned.

It's a very difficult problem that will be a major challenge to solve but I feel strongly that shutting down borders, or not rescuing trafficked children stranded in death traps in the Mediterranean sea is not the answer.

murpho999 wrote: »

Complete drivel. Of course I have sympathy for the victims.

I have not advocating any concern for terrorists, and I'd like you to quote a post where I clearly do.

Also I have not posted pages and pages.

I don't like the populist, "arrest all muslims", "stop all immigration", "string em up" mob mentality that is promoted by many posters on this thread and I have argued against it.

Somebody earlier wanted all 1st and 2nd generation muslim immigrants interned earlier. Just think how ridiculous and impractical that is.

That is not supporting or protecting terrorists in any way.

Another way needs to be found. I don't know what the answers are. Perhaps trying to understand why they do these things and prevent them from being turned.

It's a very difficult problem that will be a major challenge to solve but I feel strongly that shutting down borders, or not rescuing trafficked children stranded in death traps in the Mediterranean sea is not the answer.

Perhaps you should read back your posts to jog your memory. What comes across is that your primary, if not sole concern, is for the rights of the terrorists. If that's not what you are aiming for, perhaps make it clearer, because that's certainly how it's coming across to me and others.