Aristotle145 wrote: » Any terrorist attacks in warzawa or Budapest?nope,reason being?no muslims. Even a genius like you should understand that.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » That would never work. If you prosecute a entire group of people who follow a religion, you see more people joining the extremist cause.
FraR wrote: » If there are thousands of Muslim kids at the "risk of radicalisation" then it's probably best not to allow anymore in.
Richard Hillman wrote: » And? We are inching closer to total war. They'll have to pick sides anyway.
Lux23 wrote: » OK, but that didn't answer my question. If there are already Muslims in Europe how does stemming immigration solve the problem? What about the millions already here?
FraR wrote: » It means that we don't make the problem even worse and import any more headbangers.
murpho999 wrote: » Stop trying to make out that I support terrorism. I don't. You don't know anything about me. My point all along is that not all muslim people are terrorists and not all people who are fleeing from countries like Syria are terrorists. Many are actually fleeing ISIS themselves. The ideas promoted here of internment are ridiculous and not possible on the scale that people are talking about here. Arresting thousands of people for being foreign and/or muslim is ridiculous and will not solve anything. It would be huge infringement of human rights leading to thousands of innocent people being locked up. How long do you lock them up for and how do you release them back to society. Who pays for this? Look at what a disaster Guantanamo Bay has been on a tiny scale and also in Northern Ireland. Some shocking posts been here over the last 2 days that would put Donald Trump to shame. Populst, extremist rubbish without any substance or plan.
Gravelly wrote: » Since I suggested no such thing, I'm not sure your reply makes any sense.
Lux23 wrote: » Right. And that would probably go well very well with the European Muslims? Wouldn't it? I am sure they will be dancing in the streets rather than stabbing in them.
Lux23 wrote: » But you would make them out of the current population? So, what difference would it make really?
EagererBeaver wrote: » Absolute bollocks. Fear mongering of the highest order.
Gravelly wrote: » So we should open the borders to more muslims in case we make the ones already here angry enough to kill more of us?
Senor Fancy Pants wrote: » Wait, you think there are zero Muslims in Poland and Hungary?
Senor Fancy Pants wrote: » Im hoping you know thats not what the poster meant. It is reasonable to suggest that selectively closing the borders to the Muslim faith or people from a Muslim country would antagonise the current native Muslim poplulation, in whatever European country it effects. Simple logic.
Senor Fancy Pants wrote: » Im hoping you know thats not what the poster meant.It is reasonable to suggest that selectively closing the borders to the Muslim faith or people from a Muslim country would antagonise the current native Muslim poplulation, in whatever European country it effects. Simple logic.
gitzy16v wrote: » They are already being made out of the current population so what difference would it make really? Its simple no more undocumented migrants,no more migrant terrorists...in one fell swoop a decent percentage of extremists have no access to Europe. Now once that happens tackle the homegrown problem.
mahamageehad wrote: » Poland has about 20,000 muslims, and Hungary has about 25,000 as of 2016. Ireland has about 43,000, slightly more than the 42,000 in Finland. Surprisingly, Bulgaria has over 1 million muslims, about 13.4% of population.Source
Gravelly wrote: » I don't think you support terrorism (well I don't know, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt). My comment is based on the fact that you seem to be considerably more concerned that a potential terrorist may have their feelings hurt that you are about actual people getting killed. You have spent pages and pages of this thread trying to obfuscate, deflect, and derail any discussion on how to prevent further attacks, and what the real cause of the attacks is. You dress it up in a concern for human rights, but it is a poor enough disguise. You post above is another example of it - you know a thousand ways we can't do things because we might upset a terrorist or two, but you show no empathy or concern for those already killed and the many that will be killed over the next few months and years.
murpho999 wrote: » Complete drivel. Of course I have sympathy for the victims. I have not advocating any concern for terrorists, and I'd like you to quote a post where I clearly do. Also I have not posted pages and pages. I don't like the populist, "arrest all muslims", "stop all immigration", "string em up" mob mentality that is promoted by many posters on this thread and I have argued against it. Somebody earlier wanted all 1st and 2nd generation muslim immigrants interned earlier. Just think how ridiculous and impractical that is. That is not supporting or protecting terrorists in any way. Another way needs to be found. I don't know what the answers are. Perhaps trying to understand why they do these things and prevent them from being turned. It's a very difficult problem that will be a major challenge to solve but I feel strongly that shutting down borders, or not rescuing trafficked children stranded in death traps in the Mediterranean sea is not the answer.
Gravelly wrote: » You say that's not what he meant and then you repeat the same thing. "closing the borders to the Muslim faith or people from a Muslim country would antagonise the current native Muslim poplulation" Antagonise in what way? They will kill us faster than they are already? Or they will ring Joe Duffy and complain?
