Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

funkey_monkey wrote: »

I've only started following this and not really a big McGregor fan.
I'm just wondering what he would have to gain by putting in a good display in the open session - would it not be more to his advantage to play it like he did and appear, well, rubbish?

Don't see him winning anyway. The best punchers in that division at the height of their powers couldn't do it, so I'm not sure why people think that Conor can.

He'd gain PPV buys from people who know nothing about boxing and think he actually has a chance.

Muahahaha wrote: »

Are you still giving these odds weldoninhio? Some how I doubt it :rolleyes:

Just shows the extreme level of goal post shifting on this thread.

Can't remember what the bet was tbh. I don't have 1/4 of a bar in the bank though, not that I'd need it.

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

The disparity between specialisations and MMA is huge.

Lets say for the sake of it Conor competes at aprox 70kg (154lbs) in MMA and that's his natural competitive weight. I think you'd agree with that?

Could he hang with Lucas Lepri under IBJJF or ADCC rules?

Could he hang with Rasul Chunayev in greco-roman wrestling?

Could he hang with Magomed Kurbanaliev in freestyle wrestling?

Could he hand with Jason Nolf in Collegiate wrestling?

Could he hang with John Wayne Parr in Muay Thai?

Could he hang with Sitthichai Sitsongpeenong in Glory kickboxing?

The answer to all of the above is no, he'd be embarrassed, and there's nothing wrong with that, none of them would be able to hang with Conor in an MMA fight.

It's that simple.


I'm sure you wouldn't even argue the above.

So what makes you think he can hang with one of the pound 4 pound greatest of all time boxers in a boxing match?

Umm.

Conor didn't start muay-thai, wrestling, jiujitsu etc properly until he was 17 and even then he didn't properly commit to learning them until he was 20.

He started boxing at 11. He's been boxing for nearly 20 years at this stage.

The reason I give Conor more chance to succeed at boxing is that he's been doing it so long. If he started jiujitsu at 11, I've no idea if his ceiling would have been high enough to reach the level of a Buchecha or not but neither do you because neither of us have a clue how good he could have been.

Johner wrote: »

Been mainly avoiding this thread but just read the last few pages back.

wonderfullife you are either a massive troll or the most deluded person ever. Such nonsense you are posting.

I've never trolled a forum in my life.

I believe Conor will win. I'm open to mea culpa's don't worry - if Floyd wins I'll be the first to this thread at 6am August 27th to say I was badly mistaken as to the disparity between the 2 fighters.

I guarantee if Conor wins you won't be too quick in here with your apology...

normanoffside wrote: »

Apparently he destroys Canelo and Maidana in boxing but not GGG

Stylistically I *fancy* Conor against certain opponents in boxing. I think he dispatches Canelo and Maidana comfortably. Mind you I think GGG will dispatch Canelo comfortably also.

Other opponents I think Conor would lose to include Jacobs and Lemieux. The former because of his height/range and the latter because of his style.

Johner wrote: »

Unreal he thinks McGregor beats Canelo.:pac: McGregor wouldn't make it out of round 1 with Canelo or GGG. Maidana stops him as well.

It's easy to have opinions on fights that will never happen, so how about we stick to this one. What's your expert opinion on Conor v Floyd?

weldoninhio wrote: »

He'd gain PPV buys from people who know nothing about boxing and think he actually has a chance.

The type of people buying this PPV don't care if Conor has a chance or not, the thing still sells over 5 million even if they think Conor is the real-life Rocky...

wonderfullife wrote: »

I haven't seen you compete at a world class level in MMA, show me some footage of you winning world titles and I'll answer you.

Boxing isn't MMA though?!?

Johner wrote: »

I will.

Floyd wins by mid round stoppage. It won't be a one punch KO but he will land far too many clean and crisp shots. The first few rounds I can see Floyd in the feeling out process like he always does. Once he realizes he'll be able to make McGregor miss with relative ease he will pick him off.

I'll be amazed if Conor goes 12 rounds and if he does then fair play to him. He still won't win any rounds though.

That's a reasonable opinion and also reflects how the bookies see the fight going.

If it goes 12 rounds I think Conor wins the decision after getting up on the scorecards early due to a couple of 10-8 rounds.

Not long until we find out anyway

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Conor comfortably beating Canelo is the dumbest thing that's been said on this thread. And there has been some very stupid things said on this thread.

Canelo ends him within 2, in brutal fashion.

You're also predicting a TKO win for Floyd in 2 weeks if I remember correctly?

wonderfullife wrote: »

He didn't shoot because he was rocked so yeah I advise you go re-watch the fight. There was over a minute between the 1-2 landing and Conor shooting and Conor threw 16 punches back in that minute.

He wasn't stumbling around.

The reason he shot for the takedown is because he was swimming in lactic acid and his gas tank completely empty. That was partly due to punching himself out in round 1 (which he dominated) and partly due to his energy being depleted from the intensive course of antibiotics from the Staph infection.

You go try fight someone on antibiotics see how your gas tank is after 2 rounds.

He was done. He gave his back and quit rather than going out on his shield with a KO. Anything else is nonsense.

weldoninhio wrote: »

That punch hit none of the headgear. Laughable.

Do you understand what headgear does? Do you understand what a punch does?

A punch causes someones neck to accelerate in a rotated fashion, thereby causing the brain to rattle around in the head.

Certain things can minimize the amount of wobble of the head - strong neck muscles, for example - and Floyd himself does impressive neck workout routines.

Another thing that stabilizes the neck is headgear. When a punch connects and the neck begins to rotate with the head being jarred backwards, the back of the headgear stabilizes the neck and the head.

What's laughable is you and other posters constantly saying stuff in such declarative, condescending ways despite talking nonsense.

The fact the punch didn't "hit headgear" is irrelevant. The fact the impact on the neck and head was minimized due to the headgear is relevant. Headgear helps protect KO's for that very reason, it protects the chin, the ears and the neck.

This farce grows closer and has that feeling of a Hulk Hogan v Andre the Giant buzz about it. McGregor won't hit him on the head and the reality of this PPV is that it will have the build up of a McDonalds meal deal and will leave a bad taste in the mouth of all that pays for it.

I urge everyone not to line the pockets of these pair of chancers, there's nothing on the line for them.

Mellor wrote: »

The bet was 500-1 that Conor wins in in rounds 3-5.
Two or three poster took you up on the bet. But you disappeared.

I'm assuming you were never serious, but if you were I'd be willing to take your max bet.
And yeah you'd need the money to cover it. Escrowed obviously

Do you've ask Paddy Power for their accounts every time you put a bet down? You know it's not gonna happen, so you are adding caveats so you don't lose your money.

Schwanz wrote: »

This farce grows closer and has that feeling of a Hulk Hogan v Andre the Giant buzz about it. McGregor won't hit him on the head and the reality of this PPV is that it will have the build up of a McDonalds meal deal and will leave a bad taste in the mouth of all that pays for it.

I urge everyone not to line the pockets of these pair of chancers, there's nothing on the line for them.

Go tell Mike Towell there's nothing on the line in a boxing match. Oh wait, you can't because he's dead from head trauma in a boxing match.

There's always your life on the line, regardless of how good or bad you are, when you get into an Octagon or a boxing ring.

Pretty sad begrudgery on display.

wonderfullife wrote: »

Go tell Mike Towell there's nothing on the line in a boxing match. Oh wait, you can't because he's dead from head trauma in a boxing match.

There's always your life on the line, regardless of how good or bad you are, when you get into an Octagon or a boxing ring.

Pretty sad begrudgery on display.

I'd agree with everything you say there but this bout is a movie. No chance of anyone getting hurt.

hbhook wrote: »

Al Bernstein (Showtime) had a funny take on the whole sparring/event thing too..I'll post it later if someone doesn't beat me to it!

here ya go