Sweet Science wrote: » There's a lot of fights out there for him cause he is willing to fight at different weight classes
funkey_monkey wrote: » I've only started following this and not really a big McGregor fan. I'm just wondering what he would have to gain by putting in a good display in the open session - would it not be more to his advantage to play it like he did and appear, well, rubbish? Don't see him winning anyway. The best punchers in that division at the height of their powers couldn't do it, so I'm not sure why people think that Conor can.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » 8 ounce, no headgear.............. spark out. Nevada Commision will say no though. Ah well, 10s it is.
Muahahaha wrote: » Are you still giving these odds weldoninhio? Some how I doubt it :rolleyes: Just shows the extreme level of goal post shifting on this thread.
Gamebred wrote: » Walshb I was fishing when it was a rumoured bout 6 months ago and caught a heap in here, I give him close to zero chance, I gave Canelo no hope or Manny no hope and neither them made a fight of it for any of them 24 rounds, I guarantee Conor will give him fits early that neither of them could achieve, I think a moral victory is within reach for Conor here if he doesnt get lit up and goes 12 rounds I'd be very impressed tbh but I dont think you'd give him a bit of credit for that.
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » The disparity between specialisations and MMA is huge. Lets say for the sake of it Conor competes at aprox 70kg (154lbs) in MMA and that's his natural competitive weight. I think you'd agree with that? Could he hang with Lucas Lepri under IBJJF or ADCC rules? Could he hang with Rasul Chunayev in greco-roman wrestling? Could he hang with Magomed Kurbanaliev in freestyle wrestling? Could he hand with Jason Nolf in Collegiate wrestling? Could he hang with John Wayne Parr in Muay Thai? Could he hang with Sitthichai Sitsongpeenong in Glory kickboxing? The answer to all of the above is no, he'd be embarrassed, and there's nothing wrong with that, none of them would be able to hang with Conor in an MMA fight. It's that simple. I'm sure you wouldn't even argue the above. So what makes you think he can hang with one of the pound 4 pound greatest of all time boxers in a boxing match?
Johner wrote: » Been mainly avoiding this thread but just read the last few pages back. wonderfullife you are either a massive troll or the most deluded person ever. Such nonsense you are posting.
normanoffside wrote: » Apparently he destroys Canelo and Maidana in boxing but not GGG
Johner wrote: » Unreal he thinks McGregor beats Canelo.:pac: McGregor wouldn't make it out of round 1 with Canelo or GGG. Maidana stops him as well.
weldoninhio wrote: » He'd gain PPV buys from people who know nothing about boxing and think he actually has a chance.
wonderfullife wrote: » I don't *know* anything. Floyd might get in there and do a Brad Pitt and flatten Conor with the first punch. None of us *know* anything when it comes to predicting sports, we all just give our informed opinions and predictions. Conor has a granite chin, he's never been dropped by a kick, a punch, an elbow, a knee. Rocked? Sure, once in his whole career but he ate that 1-2 clean and stood up to it. If someone refuses to change their opinion after being presented with evidence, then they're fools. If I see evidence of Conor being demolished by Floyd, I will change my opinion on Conor's boxing ability.
wonderfullife wrote: » I haven't seen you compete at a world class level in MMA, show me some footage of you winning world titles and I'll answer you.
weldoninhio wrote: » Rocked once and ate it?? I must have imagined him panicking, shooting and quitting against Diaz!!!
wonderfullife wrote: » I believe Conor will win. I'm open to mea culpa's don't worry - if Floyd wins I'll be the first to this thread at 6am August 27th to say I was badly mistaken as to the disparity between the 2 fighters.I guarantee if Conor wins you won't be too quick in here with your apology... It's easy to have opinions on fights that will never happen, so how about we stick to this one. What's your expert opinion on Conor v Floyd?
Johner wrote: » I will. Floyd wins by mid round stoppage. It won't be a one punch KO but he will land far too many clean and crisp shots. The first few rounds I can see Floyd in the feeling out process like he always does. Once he realizes he'll be able to make McGregor miss with relative ease he will pick him off. I'll be amazed if Conor goes 12 rounds and if he does then fair play to him. He still won't win any rounds though.
wonderfullife wrote: » Conor is exceptionally talented, a phenomenal athlete, great ring IQ, is very cerebral in his setups and traps and is basically a very accurate puncher. Before you let Walshb convince you it was a "micky mouse spar", just a quick reminder that Joe Cortez was in the middle of the ring and they went a full 12-rounds in front of an audience. It was a proper fight, albeit one in headgear and 16oz gloves. The fact that Conor looked fresh as a daisy in the 11th and 12th shows he wasn't troubled by Paulie's jab to the body in the earlier rounds. If Paulie was destroying him to the body, Conor wouldn't have had that spring in his step so late.
Too Tough To Die wrote: » Conor comfortably beating Canelo is the dumbest thing that's been said on this thread. And there has been some very stupid things said on this thread. Canelo ends him within 2, in brutal fashion.
wonderfullife wrote: » Umm. Conor didn't start muay-thai, wrestling, jiujitsu etc properly until he was 17 and even then he didn't properly commit to learning them until he was 20.He started boxing at 11. He's been boxing for nearly 20 years at this stage. The reason I give Conor more chance to succeed at boxing is that he's been doing it so long. If he started jiujitsu at 11, I've no idea if his ceiling would have been high enough to reach the level of a Buchecha or not but neither do you because neither of us have a clue how good he could have been.
wonderfullife wrote: » He didn't shoot because he was rocked so yeah I advise you go re-watch the fight. There was over a minute between the 1-2 landing and Conor shooting and Conor threw 16 punches back in that minute. He wasn't stumbling around. The reason he shot for the takedown is because he was swimming in lactic acid and his gas tank completely empty. That was partly due to punching himself out in round 1 (which he dominated) and partly due to his energy being depleted from the intensive course of antibiotics from the Staph infection. You go try fight someone on antibiotics see how your gas tank is after 2 rounds.
weldoninhio wrote: » Can't remember what the bet was tbh. I don't have 1/4 of a bar in the bank though, not that I'd need it.
weldoninhio wrote: » That punch hit none of the headgear. Laughable.
Gintonious wrote: » Just rewatched it there myself, he was on wobbly legs big time after that 1-2, he was flatfooted as well a long time before it when he was getting tired. He did strike back a fair bit but he was done at that stage.
Mellor wrote: » The bet was 500-1 that Conor wins in in rounds 3-5. Two or three poster took you up on the bet. But you disappeared. I'm assuming you were never serious, but if you were I'd be willing to take your max bet. And yeah you'd need the money to cover it. Escrowed obviously
wonderfullife wrote: » The punch didn't cause him to be done at all. That's just a fact. I've been on similar antibiotics to Conor before and could barely get out of bed so I've no idea how or why he even showed up to fight Nate, let alone last 2 hard rounds. Fair play to him though for trying.
Schwanz wrote: » This farce grows closer and has that feeling of a Hulk Hogan v Andre the Giant buzz about it. McGregor won't hit him on the head and the reality of this PPV is that it will have the build up of a McDonalds meal deal and will leave a bad taste in the mouth of all that pays for it. I urge everyone not to line the pockets of these pair of chancers, there's nothing on the line for them.
weldoninhio wrote: » Do you've ask Paddy Power for their accounts every time you put a bet down? You know it's not gonna happen, so you are adding caveats so you don't lose your money.
wonderfullife wrote: » Go tell Mike Towell there's nothing on the line in a boxing match. Oh wait, you can't because he's dead from head trauma in a boxing match. There's always your life on the line, regardless of how good or bad you are, when you get into an Octagon or a boxing ring. Pretty sad begrudgery on display.
hbhook wrote: » Al Bernstein (Showtime) had a funny take on the whole sparring/event thing too..I'll post it later if someone doesn't beat me to it!
Schwanz wrote: » I'd agree with everything you say there but this bout is a movie. No chance of anyone getting hurt.
wonderfullife wrote: » Do you understand what headgear does? Do you understand what a punch does? A punch causes someones neck to accelerate in a rotated fashion, thereby causing the brain to rattle around in the head. Certain things can minimize the amount of wobble of the head - strong neck muscles, for example - and Floyd himself does impressive neck workout routines. Another thing that stabilizes the neck is headgear. When a punch connects and the neck begins to rotate with the head being jarred backwards, the back of the headgear stabilizes the neck and the head.What's laughable is you and other posters constantly saying stuff in such declarative, condescending ways despite talking nonsense. The fact the punch didn't "hit headgear" is irrelevant. The fact the impact on the neck and head was minimized due to the headgear is relevant. Headgear helps protect KO's for that very reason, it protects the chin, the ears and the neck.
