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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • #4202
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Anyone else's posts disappear? I posted just after 9 this morning in response to a poster who had 2-3 posts quoting me..all posts gone...?


  • #4203
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Lukker- wrote: »
    I would agree that Floyd is a vastly superior boxer to Paullie, but he's also a legitimate top 10 all time boxer.

    Whatever you say about Paullie, he's not an average boxer. His boxing ability can't be questioned Imo, it's what carried him his entire career, for a man with no power and pillow fists to be a 2 time world champ is a testament to that.

    Paulie was never world class no natter what his record shows..

    That's a separate point, and nothing to do with this spar..

    Paulie prepared and ready dominates Conor in a boxing match.


  • #4204
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Floyd via DQ
    lol - u sure u posted them here?


  • #4205
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    begbysback wrote: »
    lol - u sure u posted them here?

    Yeh...one post in reply to a poster. Both gone as well as the other posts from the poster...


  • #4206
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Anyone else's posts disappear? I posted just after 9 this morning in response to a poster who had 2-3 posts quoting me..all posts gone...?

    The poster was banned and I'd say the mod cleaned up posts he made and ones that quoted him.


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  • #4207
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    walshb wrote: »
    Paulie was never world class no natter what his record shows..

    That's a separate point, and nothing to do with this spar..

    Paulie prepared and ready dominates Conor in a boxing match.

    Why does it have nothing to do with the spar?

    Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, I don't particularly care, it has nothing to do with the spar ..


  • #4208
    mikeybrennan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 869 ✭✭✭mikeybrennan


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    Yes he has...he might not have lost the fight but plenty of disappointing performances from Floyd...couldnt even put away one armed Manny.
    I thought mayweather was poor against corralles.

    I've only seen a few of his fights, thought he was great against canelo


  • #4209
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    Floyd via DQ
    Lukker- wrote: »
    Why does it have nothing to do with the spar?

    Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, I don't particularly care, it has nothing to do with the spar ..

    We haven't seen the spar, so knowledgable boxing fans won't comment on it really...a few seconds here and there smells more of a media hype, so we'll let them at it ;)


  • #4210
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ


    What the **** is that skip/hop at the start...

    Honestly, if McGregor was hiding his actual boxing ability and throwing punches deliberately like this, then he actually can act.

    I did have a little voice in my head that said McGregor could really impress and show some skills. After seeing this (and the edited sparring videos), I'm not so sure.


  • #4211
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Lukker- wrote: »
    Why does it have nothing to do with the spar?

    Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, I don't particularly care, it has nothing to do with the spar ..

    It's always been my view of Paulie as a pro boxer.

    This spar that is getting such ridiculous mileage...what it has to do with Conor being a credible pro, as the fan boys would like it to be, baffles me..

    Aug 26 is his test. A test that he has no say in..


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  • #4212
    Eyes Down Field
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Eyes Down Field


    Floyd via DQ
    After watching McGregor's 12 rounds on the bags, I noticed a few things. Firstly after the first round he was sweating like a priest in a playground. After rounds he was breathing heavily. The way he was hitting the bag was comical, No combinations, no form, no consistent style or stance, he was all over the place. The funniest thing was the last round where you had his fanboys cheering him on, copying TMT "easy work" It was pathetic stuff to watch.

    He didn't do any work in the ring, No work on pads. He didn't go near the speed bag which shows hand speed and accuracy, It was terrible.


  • #4213
    myshirt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Yeah it's very poor. This could be dangerous. The footwork isn't there at all.


  • #4214
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,184 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    It's always been my view of Paulie as a pro boxer.

    This spar that is getting such ridiculous mileage...what it has to do with Conor being a credible pro, as the fan boys would like it to be, baffles me..

    Aug 26 is his test. A test that he has no say in..

    Malinaggi has a strong record in pro boxing. He didnt look too clever against McGregor in their spar. Why can you not accept that?


  • #4215
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Floyd via DQ
    Lukker- wrote: »
    I would agree that Floyd is a vastly superior boxer to Paullie, but he's also a legitimate top 10 all time boxer.

    Whatever you say about Paullie, he's not an average boxer. His boxing ability can't be questioned Imo, it's what carried him his entire career, for a man with no power and pillow fists to be a 2 time world champ is a testament to that.


    No way in hell anybody can make an argument for Paul being an all time top 10, that's ludicrous.

    Just a cursory glance at his record is enough to make that plain

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #4216
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Floyd via DQ
    StringerBell wrote: »
    No way in hell anybody can make an argument for Paul being an all time top 10, that's ludicrous.

    Just a cursory glance at his record is enough to make that plain

    He's saying Floyd is a legitimate top 10, not Paulie.
    He's saying it's unfair to call Paulie average and use Floyd as a benchmark because Floyd is on a totally different level.


  • #4217
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Floyd via DQ
    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Malinaggi has a strong record in pro boxing. He didnt look too clever against McGregor in their spar. Why can you not accept that?

    He doesn't have a strong record though, I don't even the dispute the knockdown but how can you make a claim about how he looked in the spar from a few seconds of edited footage?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #4218
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Floyd via DQ
    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    He's saying Floyd is a legitimate top 10, not Paulie.
    He's saying it's unfair to call Paulie average and use Floyd as a benchmark because Floyd is on a totally different level.

    Ah I must have misread the post I'm on my mobile, apologies!

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #4219
    Morrison J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Floyd via DQ
    Lukker- wrote: »
    Morrison J wrote: »
    That's a legit knockdown more times than not. Smart from McGregor. You can see his accuracy is definitely there.

    People still need to realise the jump from Paulie to Floyd though. It's massive. Paulie is an average boxer who's talked his way into big fights for most of his career. He's now shot to pieces too. Floyd a different animal altogether. Hope this makes the odds shift and Floyd comes shorter.

    I would agree that Floyd is a vastly superior boxer to Paullie, but he's also a legitimate top 10 all time boxer.

    Whatever you say about Paullie, he's not an average boxer. His boxing ability can't be questioned Imo, it's what carried him his entire career, for a man with no power and pillow fists to be a 2 time world champ is a testament to that.
    He has no elite wins on his record. A number of levels below Floyd.

    He's also shot to bits. Never had good head movement as a pro and relied on his legs defensively. Those legs are gone. Not a massive achievement that he caught him clean in 30 seconds of footage.


  • #4220
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Certainly isn't clean but does look a knockdown, although I've seen them ruled a slip/push. Willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm surprised Paulie looked so aggressive and willing to engage. Both looking very amateurish.

    It's convenient Dana posted two spots where he looked well. Again, it doesn't say much about the sparring as a whole. Sparring is sparring though, I've seen world level fighters made to look like novices.

    Props to Conor though, looks at least functional in the ring.

    Still waiting for the prices on Floyd to drift.


  • #4221
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Malinaggi has a strong record in pro boxing. He didnt look too clever against McGregor in their spar. Why can you not accept that?

    Accept what, exactly?

    What has a Mickey Mouse spar got to do with this "fight" in two weeks?

    Until I see an unedited video I cannot make any assessment on how their "spar" went..

    The spar has nothing to do with a single thing that I have ever claimed on the thread. It's a spar that none of us have seen unedited..


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  • #4222
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,037 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Conor via DQ
    Morrison J wrote: »
    He has no elite wins on his record. A number of levels below Floyd.

    He's also shot to bits. Never had good head movement as a pro and relied on his legs defensively. Those legs are gone. Not a massive achievement that he caught him clean in 30 seconds of footage.

    He's still a boxer though and the early stages of this thread suggest conor as a novice would be schooled by amateurs


  • #4223
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Conor certainly doesn't look bad in the spar, brief clips. Something I have said, he's not a dummy as regards boxing. The guy can punch and move and he is a fighter in the general sense.

    The straight left hand he hit Paulie with in Dana's first clip was savage..

    His problem is that he is leagues below what is needed to be a genuine threat to Floyd. So, relative to top class pro boxing he is a dummy. Not literally, I mean in the sense of his level compared to top class.


  • #4224
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    He's still a boxer though and the early stages of this thread suggest conor as a novice would be schooled by amateurs

    Top amateurs here in Ireland would school him..

    You think differently? If so I can only assume you are way overrating Conor, or you have seen next to nothing of Ireland's best amateurs.


  • #4225
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Conor certainly doesn't look bad in the spar. Something I have said, he's not a dummy as regards boxing. The guy can punch and move and he is a fighter.

    The straight left hand he hit Paulie with in Dana's first clip was savage..

    His problem is that he is leagues below what is needed to be a genuine threat to Floyd. So, relative to top class pro boxing he is a dummy. Not literally, I mean in the sense of his level compared to top class.

    The goal posts have moved a long way overnight :D:pac:


  • #4226
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Top amateurs here in Ireland would school him..

    You think differently? If so I can only assume you are way overrating Conor, or you have seen next to nothing of Ireland's best amateurs.

    Do you have footage of these top amateurs knocking down Paulie? Evidence beats theory etc.


  • #4227
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    StringerBell wrote: »
    No way in hell anybody can make an argument for Paul being an all time top 10, that's ludicrous.

    Just a cursory glance at his record is enough to make that plain

    Think the poster meant Floyd being all time top ten..


  • #4228
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Do you have footage of these top amateurs knocking down Paulie? Evidence beats theory etc.

    And what has that got to do with my claim?

    Top Irish amateurs would school Conor..

    You realise I am claiming top Irish amateurs school Conor, not Paulie?


  • #4229
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    The goal posts have moved a long way overnight :D:pac:

    They have not moved..

    He is getting thoroughly beaten on Aug 26

    And he is leagues below what is needed..

    My whole thread has been consistent..

    If things change of course opinions and views can..


  • #4230
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    And wtf has that got to do with my claim?

    Top Irish amateurs would school Conor..

    You realise I am claiming top Irish amateurs school Conor, not Paulie?

    Your claim is baseless. Before you had an advantage in that we had no evidence of Conor vs. Boxers. Now we have proof that he knocked down a recent world champ. For you to say he would be schooled by an amateur looks absurd now.


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  • #4231
    GiftofGab
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    Thinking there's a possibility that this whole Pauli incident is preplanned to sell more PPV. Pauli pulling a tantrum then the video gets released 2 weeks before the fight. Pauli also works for showtime.


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