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Ethnic group jailed for slavery.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Apparently not, I'm not a protected minority. According to a member of the gardai I can be instructed to move on if I park a caravan on a public road, they can act if I'm causing an obstruction or nusience. The gardai cannot do a thing in a situation where a herd of travellers pull onto the side of the road. The council needs to apply for an order from the high court. They don't need a high court order to move me.

    Funny how you refer to them as a "herd" - it's almost as if you don't view them as people.

    If a large group of people, whatever their race, parked a load of caravans on a public road, and refused to leave, the law would treat them the same way as they treat Travellers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Apparently not, I'm not a protected minority. According to a member of the gardai I can be instructed to move on if I park a caravan on a public road, they can act if I'm causing an obstruction or nusience. The gardai cannot do a thing in a situation where a herd of travellers pull onto the side of the road. The council needs to apply for an order from the high court. They don't need a high court order to move me.

    Start throwing your dirty nappies and other rubbish around the area....

    Be grand.....


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So that means that just under 80% of the prison population are non-Travellers, then? Less than their population proportion, for sure, but on a numbers basis most of the criminals in the country are non-Traveller Irish.

    Yes you should look up what the term per capita means.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Start throwing your dirty nappies and other rubbish around the area....

    Be grand.....

    I know plenty of settled people that do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,622 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    I have the pleasure of living in close proximity to some travellers. Let me enlighten some to the diverse culture I have witnessed first hand over the years:

    Every January and July at least 2 of the family have the latest reg car/van despite the same people always collecting money in the post office.

    The children especially the young boys (under 10) like to grab the younger girks by the hair and with a closed fist punch them when they cant get their way

    The same boys scour the estate for bikes,scooters,flickers etc left in gardens at night and take them . Ive caught them twice and when i approached their mother i was told they dont know what they are doing as they are only 'childer'

    One unfortunate local landlord rented their house to one of them. House was given back a year later minus the wood floors and kitchen tiles. Was 2 skip loads of rubbish out the back.

    Every communion involves stretched hummers and princess carriages etc. None of these work. Not even tarmac or paving. They do sweet f*ck all, all day everyday

    Not one of them has a wheelie bin. But somehow we have a problem with fly tipping in one of the country lane ways..wonder who that is?

    The local Gardai are always laughing and joking with them too.

    Thats a couple of things...but sure arent they a great bunch of people altogether


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    How are travellers a race? Are they not the same race as the majority of us white/Caucasian.

    Strictly speaking there is no race besides Homo Sapiens. It's just another excuse like religion to be extremely crappy to one another or hide behind "discrimination" to gain an advantage.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Gardai will be blamed shortly by a certain poster when he's finished putting Muslim pedophiles on the same level as former football hooligans. Never mind the scrote breaking the law, shure it's not his fault the police won't enforce the rules.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    I have the pleasure of living in close proximity to some travellers. Let me enlighten some to the diverse culture I have witnessed first hand over the years:

    Every January and July at least 2 of the family have the latest reg car/van despite the same people always collecting money in the post office.

    The children especially the young boys (under 10) like to grab the younger girks by the hair and with a closed fist punch them when they cant get their way

    The same boys scour the estate for bikes,scooters,flickers etc left in gardens at night and take them . Ive caught them twice and when i approached their mother i was told they dont know what they are doing as they are only 'childer'

    One unfortunate local landlord rented their house to one of them. House was given back a year later minus the wood floors and kitchen tiles. Was 2 skip loads of rubbish out the back.

    Every communion involves stretched hummers and princess carriages etc. None of these work. Not even tarmac or paving. They do sweet f*ck all, all day everyday

    Not one of them has a wheelie bin. But somehow we have a problem with fly tipping in one of the country lane ways..wonder who that is?

    The local Gardai are always laughing and joking with them too.

    Thats a couple of things...but sure arent they a great bunch of people altogether

    You monitor them very closely, Jessica


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    I have the pleasure of living in close proximity to some travellers. Let me enlighten some to the diverse culture I have witnessed first hand over the years:

    Every January and July at least 2 of the family have the latest reg car/van despite the same people always collecting money in the post office.

    The children especially the young boys (under 10) like to grab the younger girks by the hair and with a closed fist punch them when they cant get their way

    The same boys scour the estate for bikes,scooters,flickers etc left in gardens at night and take them . Ive caught them twice and when i approached their mother i was told they dont know what they are doing as they are only 'childer'

    One unfortunate local landlord rented their house to one of them. House was given back a year later minus the wood floors and kitchen tiles. Was 2 skip loads of rubbish out the back.

    Every communion involves stretched hummers and princess carriages etc. None of these work. Not even tarmac or paving. They do sweet f*ck all, all day everyday

    Not one of them has a wheelie bin. But somehow we have a problem with fly tipping in one of the country lane ways..wonder who that is?

    The local Gardai are always laughing and joking with them too.

    Thats a couple of things...but sure arent they a great bunch of people altogether

    All because they fear them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Omackeral wrote: »
    The Gardai will be blamed shortly by a certain poster when he's finished putting Muslim pedophiles on the same level as former football hooligans. Never mind the scrote breaking the law, shure it's not his fault the police won't enforce the rules.

    Is that a thinly veiled Hillsborough reference???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    I have the pleasure of living in close proximity to some travellers. Let me enlighten some to the diverse culture I have witnessed first hand over the years:

    I lived around the corner for some Travellers for several years. They were grand. One of them sharpened the blades on my lawnmower once.

    Now I am not for one second trying to say that all Travellers are "grand" - only a total dick would make such a sweeping generalisation about an entire group of people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    snowflaker wrote: »
    They can instruct them also. Its when its refused the high court order is required.
    they won't get involved unless there's trouble i.e. A fight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,622 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    RayM wrote: »
    I lived around the corner for some Travellers for several years. They were grand. One of them sharpened the blades on my lawnmower once.

    Now I am not for one second trying to say that all Travellers are "grand" - only a total dick would make such a sweeping generalisation about an entire group of people.


    I am glad you have a positive experience in dealing with them. Unfortunately mine is the opposite.

    Did i say they were all the same? No. I was stating my experience with those that i see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,622 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    snowflaker wrote: »
    You monitor them very closely, Jessica

    Whos Jessica? Whats your point


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    fatknacker wrote: »
    Why's everyone so annoyed about them having ethnic status? If you dislike them so much then surely you'd be glad they are unlike ye

    They are nothing like most people.

    Most people work, like you know to pay taxes to keep the country afloat.

    Most people don't throw their rubbish,babies nappies, old tyres etc.in any old field

    Most people don't let/encourage their 15/16 year old daughter to get married and have kids at 15 or 16 years of age

    Most people don't block up major roads with vans and cars putting other road users lives at risk as horses and carts run a race in front of them.

    Most people don't rob, steal, scam, extort, put videos on You Tube of themselves illegally fighting etc...

    Most people are decent...


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    snowflaker wrote: »
    Is that a thinly veiled Hillsborough reference???

    No, it's in relation a poster on saying he believes Tommy Robinson is on par with deviant Muslim pedophiles who sexually abused children in Newcastle and that he deserves the same punishments.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    They are nothing like most people.

    Most people work, like you know to pay taxes to keep the country afloat.

    Most people don't throw their rubbish,babies nappies, old tyres etc.in any old field

    Most people don't let/encourage their 15/16 year old daughter to get married and have kids at 15 or 16 years of age

    Most people don't block up major roads with vans and cars putting other road users lives at risk as horses and carts run a race in front of them.

    Most people don't rob, steal, scam, extort, put videos on You Tube of themselves illegally fighting etc...

    Most people are decent...
    ...and most people aren't bigots!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    kbannon wrote: »
    All of them? That must have taken some planning!

    That's a nasty retort.

    A group of travelers raided my elderly father's house and robbed the place.
    The next day my father had bars put into the windows and in essence became a prisoner within his own home.

    The traveler gang were known to the Gardai but nothing could be proven, so they continued with their lives as if nothing happened.
    On the other hand, my father was never the same after the incident and died within a year.
    The man worked for almost 50 years in this country, paying taxes and positively contributing to the community; including many years in volunteerism.

    This is not a unique story, and I'm sure that we will continue to hear about new traveler incidences because our spineless politicians will not address the traveler issue ............... except of course to give them protected status.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Omackeral wrote: »
    No, it's in relation a poster on saying he believes Tommy Robinson is on par with deviant Muslim pedophiles who sexually abused children in Newcastle and that he deserves the same punishments.

    Is Tommy Robinson a football hooligan? I thought he was just an ex con, who peddled easy answers.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RayM wrote: »
    I lived around the corner for some Travellers for several years. They were grand. One of them sharpened the blades on my lawnmower once.

    My best friend is a gay black fella in a wheelchair.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    kbannon wrote: »
    ...and most people aren't bigots!

    Oh the irony.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    If 20% of the prison population is travellers, it doesn't add up then that the gardai are afraid of them or they get away with everything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,369 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    Kivaro wrote: »
    That's a nasty retort.

    A group of travelers raided my elderly father's house and robbed the place.
    The next day my father had bars put into the windows and in essence became a prisoner within his own home.

    The traveler gang were known to the Gardai but nothing could be proven, so they continued with their lives as if nothing happened.
    On the other hand, my father was never the same after the incident and died within a year.
    The man worked for almost 50 years in this country, paying taxes and positively contributing to the community; including many years in volunteerism.

    This is not a unique story, and I'm sure that we will continue to hear about new traveler incidences because our spineless politicians will not address the traveler issue ............... except of course to give them protected status.

    Almost a carbon copy of what happened to my dad.

    Utter scum - never ever ever will i give any of them any respect. They don't deserve respect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Omackeral wrote: »
    My best friend is a gay black fella in a wheelchair.

    you didnt quote that to the other guy that "lived beside travellers"???


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    snowflaker wrote: »
    Is Tommy Robinson a football hooligan? I thought he was just an ex con, who peddled easy answers.

    Yep, he has a conviction for violent disorder I believe. Is that worse than raping kids in your eyes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    Almost a carbon copy of what happened to my dad.

    Utter scum - never ever ever will i give any of them any respect. They don't deserve respect.

    You're not generalising so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Yep, he has a conviction for violent disorder I believe. Is that worse than raping kids in your eyes?

    Did I say it was? Also a conviction for mortgage fraud I do believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    Let them alone! We should respect their unique culture (like beating the sh*t out of the females) and focus on the enrichment they bring to our society; like theft, drugs, marrying your cousin and in the case of the two Kerry travellers, raping and murdering your sister.
    Thank God they have a shorter life expectancy....so they don't have to suffer discrimination from law-abiding tax payers longer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    Kivaro wrote: »
    That's a nasty retort.

    A group of travelers raided my elderly father's house and robbed the place.
    The next day my father had bars put into the windows and in essence became a prisoner within his own home.

    The traveler gang were known to the Gardai but nothing could be proven, so they continued with their lives as if nothing happened.
    On the other hand, my father was never the same after the incident and died within a year.
    The man worked for almost 50 years in this country, paying taxes and positively contributing to the community; including many years in volunteerism.

    This is not a unique story, and I'm sure that we will continue to hear about new traveler incidences because our spineless politicians will not address the traveler issue ............... except of course to give them protected status.

    Took my parents years to get over it, actually if i'm honest they still haven't. Our family home was their castle and they lost a lot of that the day those scumbags broke down that front door. I'll never respect them or their ilk.


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  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    snowflaker wrote: »
    you didnt quote that to the other guy that "lived beside travellers"???

    that's cos he's actually the gay black lad. He's typing from his wheel chair now.


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