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VW emissions software update - disaster

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  • #392
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    I was thinking of buying a second hand VW Passat (2013/14) from the UK. Luckily I stumbled across this thread before that happened. Quick question for any one that can answer it;
    Would it still be worth buying if the car has not had the fix?
    Or should I just steer clear altogether?

    Would appreciate as many answers as possible.


  • #393
    benny79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭benny79


    If it was me I wouldn't buy a VW and won't be buying one again. Although I love my Passat but it hasnt got the update done and I won't be getting it done. If its not broke....


  • #394
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,299 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »
    I was thinking of buying a second hand VW Passat (2013/14) from the UK. Luckily I stumbled across this thread before that happened. Quick question for any one that can answer it;
    Would it still be worth buying if the car has not had the fix?
    Or should I just steer clear altogether?

    Would appreciate as many answers as possible.

    In the same boat and decided to avoid the B7 Passat diesel altogether. Too may question marks and pitfalls. Pity as they are an excellent car, have a petrol B7 and love it.


  • #395
    Toyotafanboi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    Stallingrad wrote: »
    In the same boat and decided to avoid the B7 Passat diesel altogether. Too may question marks and pitfalls. Pity as they are an excellent car, have a petrol B7 and love it.

    What would those question marks and pitfalls be?


  • #396
    Neilw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭Neilw


    Stallingrad wrote: »
    In the same boat and decided to avoid the B7 Passat diesel altogether. Too may question marks and pitfalls. Pity as they are an excellent car, have a petrol B7 and love it.

    If it's an excellent car just don't bother with the update, it will still be excellent then.


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  • #397
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭whippet


    I have the 1.6tdi engine in my 2011 superb ... I got the letter a few weeks back and have ignored it.

    300k on the clock getting 58.9mpg (as per fuelly app) and it hasn't missed a beat since the day I got it. Why in gods name would I even consider letting anyone touch it.

    I expect to get close to 700k from it before it's resigned to the scrap yard


  • #398
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    Neilw wrote: »
    If it's an excellent car just don't bother with the update, it will still be excellent then.

    Is there a way of checking if the car has been updated or not? I know asking would be the fastest way but for obvious reasons I wouldn't really trust the seller..


  • #399
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,579 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    You can check Irish VWs on here but it won't be able to check imports:

    https://campaigncheck.ie/


  • #400
    1jcdub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭1jcdub


    I purchased a 2014 VW cc 177 TDI that had the emissions fix. I'd be very familiar with the 2.0 TDI engine as I've had it in previous cars. A 2008 vRS, 2009 A6, 2009 VW cc, 2012 A6 and the 2014 has driven well as standard with the fix compared to the previous cars, no vibration or lack of torque. I've recently had the car on a rolling road (Dyno) due to having it remapped and it was on the money as standard when it came to performance. 180bhp and 275 ft/lb of torque as standard.
    Maybe the 177 TDI is less affected by the emission fix...


  • #401
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,541 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Lol
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=59&v=ef5pzAggpoU&ebc=ANyPxKqbqnpTMg5EFEir5VQoPQ4NQB41sP6nzvlCwbV8mbdZQrrqbOAsFRv2ctFeakGk0lqi1OPSpVasDd1SXSZA3HwCSqbjBA


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  • #402
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,557 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Lol
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=59&v=ef5pzAggpoU&ebc=ANyPxKqbqnpTMg5EFEir5VQoPQ4NQB41sP6nzvlCwbV8mbdZQrrqbOAsFRv2ctFeakGk0lqi1OPSpVasDd1SXSZA3HwCSqbjBA

    Sebastian must have spent a few summers learning English in south Dublin :D


  • #403
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,064 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Lol
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=59&v=ef5pzAggpoU&ebc=ANyPxKqbqnpTMg5EFEir5VQoPQ4NQB41sP6nzvlCwbV8mbdZQrrqbOAsFRv2ctFeakGk0lqi1OPSpVasDd1SXSZA3HwCSqbjBA

    Ah bless


  • #404
    shanec1928
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    bazz26 wrote: »
    You can check Irish VWs on here but it won't be able to check imports:

    https://campaigncheck.ie/
    mine shows up on that and it's an import


  • #405
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    From Irish Legal News

    http://www.irishlegal.com/
    Diesel car software updates could fall foul of EU rules

    Software changes to lower emissions from diesel car engines will likely fall foul of EU law, one Irish lawyer involved in the VW emissions scandal has said.

    Evan O’Dwyer said the only legal fix would be to ban the affected cars from the road, The Irish Times reports.

    VW Group, Daimler and BMW announced this week that they were releasing a software update for millions of diesel cars in the face ofmounting criticism from the public over nitrogen oxide emissions.

    But Mr O’Dwyer (pictured), a lawyer for several Irish owners who are taking legal action against VW Group over ‘defeat devices’, said the move would breach EU rules.

    “The EU has banned software cheating defeat devices. There is no EU law authorising any fix to cure the existence of defeat devices. Unless the EU amends the law, the only legal solution currently available is to withdraw those cars affected from the roads including here in Ireland.

    “In this case the political and legal solutions are, as of now, utterly incompatible,” he said.

    The lawyer added: “The belated meeting of the German federal government and domestic car manufacturers seeking to find a German solution to a German problem. This is a pan European problem that is incapable of being fixed in one EU member state.”

    However, BMW said its update is not a fix but an improvement.

    A spokeswoman for the firm in Ireland said: “At present we are looking into yesterday’s announcement to see what the implications are from an Irish perspective."


  • #406
    Mf310
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Mf310


    Brought my new car into the main dealer to get something simple fixed on it he put the redge number through the system and he said its due the emissions fix he said nothing goes wrong with the car afterwards but people say it does he said they will give me a 2 year warranty on injectors and a few other engine parts so if anything happens the injectors or anything theyll replace free of charge just wondering has anyone else done this and is there more to the warranty than he is making out .. seems too good of them to be offering engine warranty on a 200000km car .. also Just checked my MpG from yesterday mostly back road driving 45 mpg that wouldnt seem good on a 1.6 would it. Could there be something wrong with the engine... thanks


  • #407
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,541 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Don't let them near it.


  • #408
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,970 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    VW wouldn't do you wrong surely?

    p.s. Your fuel economy is very poor. Should be nearer 60mpg.


  • #409
    Mf310
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Mf310


    colm_mcm wrote:
    Don't let them near it.


    Has anyone got on alright with it being done? Also what do the problems be after getting it done? I said to the dealer I've heard of problems with it being done and he said that happens if the car has been chipped before and he reckons any car that has has problems after the emission fix he says they were chipped before .. he told me volkswagen are offering good will over any fix and will offer a 2 year warranty on injectors and other relevant parts ...


  • #410
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,541 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=102536739


  • #411
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,344 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    If your happy with it as is why risk anyone messing around with it for some "fix" when it's not broken now?


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  • #412
    bmwguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    VW wouldn't do you wrong surely?

    p.s. Your fuel economy is very poor. Should be nearer 60mpg.

    That's not poor in the slightest. It might be rated at 60mpg but back road driving returning 45mpg is good.
    Getting 75% of claimed mpg out of any car never mind the masters of cheating tests Volkswagen is perfectly normal.


  • #413
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,970 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    bmwguy wrote: »
    That's not poor in the slightest. It might be rated at 60mpg but back road driving returning 45mpg is good.
    Getting 75% of claimed mpg out of any car never mind the masters of cheating tests Volkswagen is perfectly normal.

    It is.

    I've had a few Ford Foci diesels from new. 6 of them 1.6 and now 1.5TDCI 120bhp. They all returned high 50's mpg. The current one returns 58.1mpg over 7500miles.

    A reduction of 25% in fuel economy from that is highly significant.


  • #414
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,541 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    It all comes down to what mpg the OP usually gets/got.
    We're talking one trip here.


  • #415
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,970 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    It all comes down to what mpg the OP usually gets/got.
    We're talking one trip here.

    True enough.

    On average though nearer 60mpg should be possible from a 1.6TDI Golf however.


  • #416
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,541 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Not the way I'd be driving you wouldn't.


  • #417
    bmwguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    True enough.

    On average though nearer 60mpg should be possible from a 1.6TDI Golf however.

    Back road driving? Don't want him to think there is anything wrong when it's not the case. You are braking and accelerating on a back road


  • #418
    Toyotafanboi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    It is.

    I've had a few Ford Foci diesels from new. 6 of them 1.6 and now 1.5TDCI 120bhp. They all returned high 50's mpg. The current one returns 58.1mpg over 7500miles.

    A reduction of 25% in fuel economy from that is highly significant.

    You can't really compare a 1.6 diesel focus MPG from new to a 1.6 Golf bought second hand with 200k on the clock across one tank.


  • #419
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,970 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Toyotafanboi wrote:
    You can't really compare a 1.6 diesel focus MPG from new to a 1.6 Golf bought second hand with 200k on the clock across one tank.


    Course you can.


  • #420
    Toyotafanboi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    Course you can.

    Well yeah, I suppose you can compare anything. But comparing the MPG of a new Focus to a past its best Golf and saying the Golf should be better isn't exactly a sensible comparison if you are looking to draw any kind of similarity.


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  • #421
    Mf310
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Mf310


    Atlantic Dawn wrote:
    If your happy with it as is why risk anyone messing around with it for some "fix" when it's not broken now?


    Simply for the warranty on injectors and other engine parts 1 injector alone costs 750 fitted


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